Achievements

Achievements that involve fishing. Contains an overview of all fishing achievements, plus guides to completing specific achievements. Achievements awarded for actvities such as completing Quests or Training are described in those chapters.

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Extravaganza in Salty achievement?

  • fredje222, November 2008

    There are a lot of posts about this on offical wow-forums so i thought i'd make one here too.

    A lot of people want the STV-achievement deleted from the Salty-title because its totally not what fishing is all about. And they are totally right in my opinion
    And no, i'm not lazy. I have caught Ironjaw, Crafty, Mr Pinchy twice and doing the [The One That Didn't Get Away] now.

    But the thing is: 52 sundays a year, let's say about 40 times that you can actually join and about 50-100 people joining every week (on my server).
    That means if you join every week you should win after about 2 years and all fishers that caught one or more rare fish know that you can be lucky which can make you win in one try or very unlucky which could make you fish for 4 years without ever wining.
    Other people have to work on sunday-afternoons and can never win the Salty title, and dont give me that shit: 'yea but people that want raid-achievements have to be online on raid-times too' because if you dont like the raiding-hours of your guild, just join another one that has good times.
    And NO (again) the problem is NOT that these people dont want to use a lot of time for the achievements.

    All other fishing achievements can be done by just fishing alot and in prolly a month (thats a long time) you can catch all the other rare fish(wotlk not included, dont know the catch rates).

    My idea's are:
    Make the Stv-tournament happen more then once per week, because its just silly that it's only on one hour and only 52 times per year.

    or

    Delete the stv-tournament from the Salty-title and make a seperate title like: Master Angler, or something.

    If people say that it's too easy now: add Crafty, Ironjaw, Giant Rat.

    No, i didn't win the tournament yet.

    Please, tell me your opinion about this.

    Ps: all the threads on official forums have been totally ignored, just as my gm post about it.

  • Vicenti, November 2008

    I read the posts on the official forums recently, it’s no wonder they’ve been ignored. The couple I read consisted of the OP making a fair and reasonable statement regarding the inclusion of the Extravaganza in the Salty title, followed by about 10 people totally flaming them with boo hoo type posts. It kinda reminded me of being on the forums of an EA FPS game. I guess anyone who agreed with the OP just didn’t bother posting, as it seemed a waste of effort.

    My view on this, having considered it for sometime and having changed my mind back and forth several times, is that it probably shouldn’t be included in the requirements for the Salty title. The reason for this is unlike other similar new titles that are up for grabs, inclusion of the Extravaganza makes this one is limited available, due to there only being one winner of the Extravaganza per week. It is also limited access, as not everyone can play on a Sunday, or at least not enough Sundays to have a reasonable chance of success.

    Sure the achievements that give a title should be difficult, if they weren’t having the title would be almost pointless, however, I can’t see why the fishing title should be limited availability if others are not.

    As the OP suggests, to compensate for the removal of the Extravaganza, there are other difficult (yet accessible to all) achievements that could be added.

  • GormanGhaste, November 2008

    One of the things I've always liked about fishing in-game is its relaxing nature. I only went to the fishing contest until I had all the rare fish.

    I think winning the contest should have its own title, and be removed from the fishing meta-achievement.

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  • Illuthas, November 2008

    You will flame me for this,but i think its a test to use tactics and speed for fishing. Just fishing while talking in guildchat or watching tv while fishing for a rare fish is part fishing,but the real achievement of "Salty" should only be given to the people that fished in both aspects of fishing,not just clicking your fishing button and then clicking the dobber.
    And yes,i won the fishing contest twice but i didnt want "The one that didnt get away" to be removed too before i had my fish. The title should be unique,and not something everyone can get with a day of fishing. (of course its impossilbe but its just a figure of speech ;) )

  • fredje222, November 2008

    yes its true, but even if you use evry tactic in the world you can still be unlucky and fish for it like a couple of years and NEVER win, that's just ridicilous...

    if you say that fishers should also know the thrill of hardass fishing? make it daily

  • heraklen, November 2008

    I'm a strong believer of what fredje says , the extravaganza have some serious flaws and the biggest one is that its just once a week.
    Also its a competition who can be tipped into your favor or destroyed by various methods we all have read about in other threads on this forum.
    If you play on a PVP server makes it even easier for people to disrupt the competition.

    Its not that its an EASY task to get the achievement done even without the extravaganza.

  • Noodleguitar, November 2008

    I kind of like the way it is now, with the Extravaganza victory counting as a requirement. I do understand why people are upset about it, because (especially on high populated servers) I can imagine it can be a hard job to get a first win. Though I still think it's good to have some sort of competetive requirement for the title to make it more exclusive.

    If they do take it out of the requirements, at least give a justified award for those who did win the Extravaganza, after all the discussion is about it being such a hard thing to accomplish. Maybe something in the sense of a title like "Salty Master Angler [name]" or something (otherwise you have to choose between Master Angler and Salty... hard pick :))

  • anniefish, November 2008

    I, too, have waffled on whether I think it should be included in the title of "Salty" and I will say, there are some fair arguments for and against. I'm still on the fence.

    The one thing that sets this apart from other titles, and seeming to be the biggest bone of contention, is the frequency and availability of being able to win the STV contest. Many other achievements can be attempted daily or more frequent. This is one that can only be done on a specific day, once a week. That makes it unique, but certainly unattainable for those unable to fish the contest due to work, etc. I don't think that makes it comparable to other titles.

    Personally, I would like to see a sub-title of sorts in addition to the "Salty" title to not necessarily make it easier, but more of a goal for those of us that love to fish and love attaining new levels.

  • Merly, November 2008

    Those peeps going "it's only on for 52 times a year" lets play "how long has it been running for" seriously, you train, you study, you win (eventually) it's as simple as that.

    Keep it in, it's a challenge in lets face it a rather unchallenging achievement if you have enough time, everything else is just a matter of time.

  • Nemu, November 2008

    It's a challenge, sure, but it IS unfair to those of us who work on odd days/at odd times.

    I work 3rd shift, and in 3½ years of playing WoW, I've had ONE chance of participating in the event, and on a PvP server at that.

    I don't see why having the event 2 or 3 times a week will kill anyone nor will it make it a welfare event/title.

    (Heck, I'm a Bloodsail Admiral and I cannot TELL you how frustrating it is to go from seeing 10-or-so players with the title at Day One to seeing it almost as frequently as I see that stupid Jenkins title....)

  • Merly, November 2008

    For those of you who can't make it I do simpathise but as I've said if you want the ultimate title you have to have something thats more than just "stand and fish for <insert many hours here> or it's as you put it as lame as that stupid Jenkins title and any muppet can get that one.

    The salty title shows you're litterally at one with the fishes, it's a shame some people won't be able to get it but the opportunity is there to remove the biggest fishing challenge in the game from the title would be a slap in the face of all those who have worked their ass off to get it.

  • Vicenti, November 2008

    I won’t dispute the fact there should be an ultimate title for fisherman, however, I don’t think this achievement is the place for it.

    The ultimate achievement for the fisherman is indeed winning the Extravaganza and this, I believe, due to its rarity, should be a candidate for it’s own title. Leave salty for the masses, it still takes and enormous amount of fishing to achieve, especially if they were to add and couple more requirements in there. Give the Extravaganza it’s own title.

    I like Noodleguitar’s idea, maybe completing the achievement could give the title ‘salty’ then if you win the Extravaganza on top of that you become ‘Extra Salty’, lol.

  • fredje222, November 2008

    that's a very good idea Vincenti
    give a title for: all the fishes + extravaganza (like master angler)
    and another one for just all the fishes, and some more if you want to but just make those fishies fishable all days of the year :p (like salty) or any other title idea's but thats not the point :p

    and Merly said:
    Keep it in, it's a challenge in lets face it a rather unchallenging achievement if you have enough time, everything else is just a matter of time.

    then you can say that ALL other achievements are just unchallenging because you do have unlimited time for all other achievements in a year, infinent people can win any title but only 52 can win a fishing title, do you think that's fair?(except the Halloween ones and stuff but you have enough time to get those)(and the raiding ones but if you raid enough you can enter a really good guild and also get those)

    like: Loremaster title, i have seen only a couple with the title but if you just do it long enough you'll get it and as much people that want it can get it. but i wouldn't call it unchallenging :p

  • Kahless, November 2008

    An achievement that anyone can get with ease is worthless.
    Leaving the tourney requirement makes it difficult and uncommon and therefore worth having.
    Take away the tourney requirement and it's just another holiday title that everyone will have.
    Leave it the way it is.

  • Bettis, November 2008

    Here is how I feel.

    I have the fishing extravaganza done but even if I didn't I would want it kept in. Anything worth its name has to take work.

    And for the people who say "But it is only once a week and I don't have time or the schedule to do it". Well, I would love the achievements for the really big raids but I will never be able to join a HIGH-END raid guild due to time restrictions so I will never get those or any achievement related to them. I have a wife and 2 kids who would leave me if I devoted time to the game required (not that I want to since I enjoy them more than the game) to do end game raiding. So should Blizzard change the achievements to make them so EVERYONE can get them? No, they are the way they are and I can accept that.

    I worked my schedule to allow me to fish on Sundays at the time of the contest for a few times and worked my ass off by doing my homework and also scouting it out, etc. I still didn't win my first dozen plus times (not sure what attempt made it).

    But I wanted it so I made it happen. That's life.

    Sorry but some things may be out of your reach...but only if you let them be.

  • fredje222, November 2008

    Kahless wrote:

    An achievement that anyone can get with ease is worthless.
    Leaving the tourney requirement makes it difficult and uncommon and therefore worth having.
    Take away the tourney requirement and it's just another holiday title that everyone will have.
    Leave it the way it is.

    i'm very sure that it wont be a title that evryone has because its still is freaking hard to get, do you know the droprate on mr pinchy and one that didn't got away? it will still be a rare title and why not make two titles as i said before??

  • Mitzy, November 2008

    Saying that the Extravaganza is luck based is

    a) not entirely true. There are certain things that one can do to win the tournament, for example using speed buffs and water walking potions. Another (infamous) method is to hire another players to distract other fishers. Yeah, that isn't fair, but nevertheless possible.

    b) nothing special. I mean, even if it was luck based, there would be others of its kind. For example, I never achieved "the Hallowed " title, because Hallowed Helm refused to be found from treat bags, and HHM wasn't any better.

    Another point I would like to make is that there are other titles that are not available to all players. For example the arena titles. I quoted one post in another topic, stating that there could be less Salty titles than Gladiator titles. It was based on rather rough estimates. However, if we think about it, the numbers don't actually matter: there will be a certain amount of Gladiators and Saltys at a given time and some people won't get them.

  • Whisper, November 2008

    Yes it could be removed from the meta achievement, but having worked on this extravaganza several weeks to make up a tactic, I feel like this tournament is the ultimate fishing achievement, and thus should award a title itself

    And about luck, I feel like this tournament is something like 50% luck

    just look at the facts :

    a) Sometimes your hook doesn't want to hit the pool, even if you placed well, some precious seconds lost

    b) whether the fish bites after 10 secondes of fishing or 20 makes a huge difference

    c) One week before I won it, I fished 39 fish in 15mn, I was lucky with the schoolfishes, got lucky repops, and yet, for I caught 17 trash fish (stonescales, firefin, that plant) I had absolutely no chance to win, the schoolfishes having approximately 80% tastyfish

    Having an escort squad might be a good idea, but even if you gank your opposite faction, you're helping your whole faction and not only you, so it's not the best idea, using friends for defending yourself and scouting is nice

    Anyway, for the record, i'm pretty happy there's a little luck involved, for druids and hunters have a huge advantage, and shamans having an even more one now that they can waterwalk while mounted, it would be almost impossible to win for other classes if it was straightforward

    That tournament is about tactics and perseverance mainly, even with bad luck involved, persevere and you'll win, putting it inside the Salty meta achievement adds more rarity and recognition in the achievement, I mean, going to X Zone and fish a 0.0000001% rare fish is a nobrainer, winning the extravaganza is more what a fishing achievement should be

  • Mushroom, November 2008

    As someone who has worked the same job for years and years, always on Sunday, always during the tournament, I'm a little bummed that despite having fished on many characters over the last 4 years of playing, I wont ever be able to qualify for the Salty title. That's my two cents, I'm not saying the competition needs to be removed from the requirement entirely, but it *is* a little frustrating that unless I quit my job I'm not gonna get that title.

  • Sauce, November 2008

    I can understand the frustration of people who have time conflicts during the competition, but ultimately I think you would be hugely weakening the achievement by removing the contest from the title requirements. One of the main reasons why I was drawn to this title is the fact that it is very unique, that and I like getting drunk IRL and fishing in game. I'm willing to guess that the number of people with this title will be few and far between, unlike many of the other achievement titles. I thought Bloodsail Admiral was a unique title until I started seeing tons of people with it, and that's only just an example of one of the many titles that's overused.

    The salty title carries a lot of weight, I mean, lets take a look (quoted from Darkroot, Wowhead):

    Gain 350 Fishing and buy "Grand Master" level.
    Fish every school type in Outland and Northrend.
    Fish every junk node type in the game.
    Fish in Orgrimmar+Stormwind.
    Win the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza (Retroactive if you have the reward in your inventory).
    Have/have used the Magical Crawdad Box from Terokkar.
    Catch a rare fish (Max Weight/Weapon).
    Do all 5 fishing dailies from Barlo.
    Fish up Gahz'ranka in ZG.
    Fish up The Lurker Below in SSC.
    Learn Find Fish via a Weather Beaten Journal.
    Fish up every coin from the Dalaran Fountain.
    Catch 1,000 fish total (NOTE: You will probably get this from doing all of the above :P)

    All I can say is whoever can do all this is a badass. I mean, seriously, damnnnnnnnnn. This list is not only huge, but also all-inclusive of what fishing is about in this game. This title will test not only your patience, but also your level of skill. That's what it should mean to carry the salty title. If you get rid of the extravaganza, you really aren't testing skill anymore. Yes, you could give the extravaganza its own title, but that's pretty weak; titles that require only one act or quest or whatever are incredibly lame (Jenkins).

    My final peeve: who exactly are the people that are complaining about the competition as part of the achievement? I understand people who can't participate in the competition, they have a valid point, but not being able to win is not an excuse, try harder. Blizzard did something right by making the title accessible to only the hardcore fishermen. I was never in an end-game raiding guild, so I've potentially missed out on content/achievements. Hell, I can't get the ZA bear now that it's removed from the game, but that's ok, because such and such in T6 gear wants to get all the achievements/titles/mounts/pets for jollies so they should have an easy time getting what most of us have perfected in this game.

    In summary, this achievement is a great way from distinguishing the men from the boys and I know that many of us will cause heads to turn when going through Dalaran with Salty up. A note to Blizzard: please don't weaken a title that many of us begged to have put in the game.

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WotLK: Fishing and Achievements

  • Itty, July 2008

    As mentioned on the "Achievements" page here at El's Anglin, several (seventeen, to be exact) fishing-related achievements are so far planned for Wrath of the Lich King. Many are not yet finished but will be fleshed out as Beta unfolds.

    I was fortunate enough to be invited to Beta recently and, like any good (obsessed) angler, one of my first acts was to try fishing. Sadly, there are no new "fishable" fish yet in the game. There is a "northern barb fish", which is the objective of a two-part quest where the first part involves literally banging on stuff that looks like seaweed until one of three things pops out: an undead spy, a crab, or the barbed fish. You then get pulled into combat with whatever popped out. It's reminiscent of the Terokkar "Taken in the Night" quest where you have to free people from spider cocoons. In other words, not very fun. It took me a while to do the two-part series and there wasn't even a fun item reward. It was just around 4 or 5 gold per stage.

    As also indicated here on El's Anglin', there's also a Northern Salmon quest fish, but I haven't done that quest yet.

    Going back to achievements, some of the most interesting achievements tie into Burning Crusade. There are two Mr. Pinchy achievements: one for getting his pet, the other for fishing him (or one of thirteen other rare fish). Oddly, the "Mr. Pinchy's Magical Crawdad Box" achievement does not automatically light up the "The Deadliest Catch" achievement, although you obviously need to catch Mr. Pinchy to get his box. I submitted a "bug" suggestion regarding this.

    There is also an achievement relating to the Old Man Barlo fishing quests. If you've done all five of them, this achievement lights up. This achievement was lit up for me immediately upon entering Beta without having to do them all again.

    The most interest achivement of all, though, is connected to the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza. There is a "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement but, frustratingly, it does not currently check to see if you've already won the tournament. It did not light up for me, despite me having in my possession and using both of the rewards available from the tournament. There are other achievements in the game that check for possessed items, though. For example, I got a "Feat of Strength" achievement because I have a really old, no longer available, epic mount in my bank. If the game can look for such an item, it can clearly look for others like bind-on-pickup tournament victory items. Hopefully, this will be fixed as Beta progresses. I submitted a suggestion on this, too.

    That's about all there is to report on fishing in WotLK so far. I haven't even found a Grand Master fishing trainer yet, and I don't expect to see one soon. As we all know, fishing is never near the top of the developers' to-do lists, so it will likely be a while before fishing pools and new fish make it into Beta.

    As they do, though, I'll keep you updated.

    Happy fishing!
    Itty, Stormreaver

  • Sharina, July 2008

    I hope they fix those "bugs" in beta before release.

    I cannot imagine how many people might be frustrated about having their previous wins/achievements not count in the current time. It's kind of a slap in the face to the old school players, who in my opinion, have been very loyal to this game.

    I don't want to have to win it again -- also I think this is unfair to the people who have not won it yet. They may have to compete against other first timers, AND people who are trying to win it again just to get their achievement checked off. :(

  • el, July 2008

    Thanks for posting, Itty. Glad to see I'm not the only one fishing in the beta! I look forward to further reports.

    I've updated the Wrath of the Lich King pages.

    Interesting that you received the Old Man Barlo achievement retrospectively. El did not, even though she has done them all many times. I assume that "The Deadliest Catch" requires a catch because some of the fish are not bound on pickup, so having them in your inventory means nothing. But that isn't the case for Mr. Pinchy and a few others.

    Tigole (one of the designers) is active on various forums at the moment, giving the impression that Blizzard still haven't finished working on achievements. So maybe we won't all have to win the Booty Bay contest again... It will be interesting to see how many points they award for winning (the current points totals are place-holders only). Personally I think winning the contest is one of the hardest activities in the entire game, particularly on a mature PvP realm. But those that have never tried tend to assume it just requires "fishing" skill, and so is "easy".

    The current beta is still an alpha: Lots of core content missing (quests, zones, professions, abilities, you name it), and minimal server stability (last night Northrend was crashing or hitting 5-minute lag spikes several times each hour).

    Fishing as a profession is essentially not yet implemented. I hope they find time to complete it. In The Burning Crusade nothing fishing-related changed after the start of beta testing. That meant the release version had missing content (Blade's Edge, recipes in new low-level areas, etc) and design flaws (Golden Darter out of balance, broken distribution of fresh/salt-water fish in new low-level areas - which is happening again now in Stormwind, pools that couldn't be fished by those with short legs, and so on).

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  • Oberweiss, July 2008

    Thank you for the updates! Keep them coming. Also, thanks for submitting those suggestions regarding retroactively achieving the fishing contest goal. I already get dirty looks for having won the trinket on my druid. I wouldn't want to make her win a third time; I might be exiled.

  • Sharina, July 2008

    Those of you who are in the Closed Beta could also make a post regarding the achievement for the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza, or any other issues on the Beta forums. Perhaps Blizzard will note the amount of feedback and act accordingly to change/fix things.

    There is already a post being made about the Master Angler issue here:

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202608068&sid=2000

    Wotlk Beta Forums Index:

    http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/forums

  • el, July 2008

    Tigole:
    "Ok, we updated it to check for the Arcanite Fishing Pole or the Hook trinket. "

  • Oberweiss, July 2008

    el wrote:

    Tigole:
    "Ok, we updated it to check for the Arcanite Fishing Pole or the Hook trinket. "

    Huzzah!

  • Itty, July 2008

    In what may be a world first, I won the fishing tournament twice in one day. The first tournament was on my hunter alt, giving her the trinket. The second win was two hours later on the PvP Beta server. Just between you and me, I was the only one even in Stanglethorn Vale on the Beta server during this time, so I could have taken the full two hours and still won. Let's keep that our little secret, though ;)

    Anyway, I fished the tournament to test the "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement. Although Tigole has indicated that the achievement now checks for the pole or trinket, this build is not yet active. When I logged in, I was still not credited with the win. Upon winning the tournament, though, the achivement did light up.

    Sadly, this achievement did not unlock a title to display next to my name. This was quite disappointing, of course. I submitted a suggestion reading:

    "The "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement, unlocked by winning the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza, does not currently provide an in-game title for players to display next to their name. Players have been calling for this title since the introduction of the tournament, and the new achievement system would be the perfect mechanism for implementing this title.

    Please consider a "Master Angler" title to accompany this achievement (e.g, "Itty, Master Angler"). It would make a lot of players happy."

    Hopefully, such a title will eventually be added in, but only time will tell. I'll keep you updated with any developments. In the meantime, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed!

    Itty, Stormreaver

  • Zhivago, August 2008

    Just found a post on worldofraids.com that linked to this page listing all of the WotLK achievements, including ALOT of fishing achievements.

    Have fun!!!

    WotLK Fishing Achievements

  • Asseel, August 2008

    Lots of things to get, but at least they seem manageable. Though they'll likely adapt the fishing from a school one to require more than one time doing it. Probably most if not all of them. Still, a doable list. Though the fishing in SW or IF one might be tricky for me...LOL

  • Stevinn, August 2008

    Hi all, I've recently received a beta key and will be glad to pass on any information that I can gleem from the beta. I noticed the same bugs that El mentioned above. But also I didn't get credit for doing all 5 of Old Man Barlow's quests (Even though I've done them 100 times probably) Submitted bug report.

    Stephenn
    http://wowengineer.wordpress.com

  • Stevinn, August 2008

    It looks like they've renamed a bunch of the pools of wreckage. For the achievement named "The Scavenger" you have to catch something from the following pools of wreckage:

    Steam Pump Flotsam (Zangarmarsh)
    Bloodsail Wreckage (STV Coastal)
    Schooner Wreckage (Hillsbrad Foothills, Wetlands)
    Waterlogged Wreckage (STV River, Theramore Beach)
    Floating Wreckage (Feralas)

    The location in parentheses is where I found them.

    I also noticed that Oily Blackmouth schools are now called Abundant Oily Blackmouth Schools, or Lesser OBMS, Teeming OBMS, etc. Same with Firefin Snapper Schools. I'm assuming that each level has a different number of possible fish in it.

    BTW I'm on the Northrend PvE server so if you're there look me up.

    Stephenn
    http://wowengineer.wordpress.com

  • el, August 2008

    Past repeatable quest achievements aren't tracked, it seems. I'm currently trying to do all the dailies to check that Barloed does award eventually. Curiously, there has been a change to the way the quest fish appear on the test server: Like the pre-TBC quest fish, they are now caught alongside an existing catch - so you get 2 fish at once. At this stage it is still possible I'm just very lucky, but every quest fish has also been caught from the very first catch.

    I documented what I've discovered so far about the new pool names in the Wrath section. The patterns seem to reflect the type of trunk found - most obvious in Stranglethorn Vale, which always had two different wreckage pool types, depending on whether you were north or south of Grom'Gol.

    "Lesser", "Sparse", no prefix, "Abundant", and "Teeming" imply more fish per pool, or a better catch in some way. But an initial test did not show up any differences. It seemed like the pools had simply been renamed, pending a future change. I've not rechecked them in the last week.

    I'm also intrigued to know whether you find the random oily swoosh noise that has been added to Oily Blackmouth and Brackish Mixed pools as confusing as I did?

  • Stevinn, August 2008

    As of the most recent patch one of two things have happened regarding the "You've Been Barlowed" Achievement.

    1) The objectives are now retroactive. I got credit for doing all 5 of the daily quests, without doing them all on the beta server. I haven't had a chance to do "The One that Got Away," yet. But I had done it many times on the regular server before the character copy.

    2) It's glitched now and improperly gave me credit. Similar to the "Reach Level 80" achievement that I have credit for when I'm only 72.

  • GIGAR, August 2008

    Well... That's why they call it a beta :P
    But the lvl72 bug is just hillarious, lol!

  • Anglin Man, August 2008

    Interesting. In the beta, I got the Barloed achievement right away, but still waiting for the STV achievement to be unlocked. i'm sure it will be updated. I also hope that we can get some sort of achievement for both grand prizes. Since they are essentially quest rewards, it shouldn't be that hard to track.

    I've had very little luck finding fish in North Rend so far, but mostly because I get caught up in exploring and new quests. I always think of it just after I log off. Has anyone been able to get to Dalaran, and see if fishing is possible there?

  • el, August 2008

    I don't think the retrospective achievements are consistent. My second version of El (that hasn't completed daily fishing quests since transfer) still doesn't have Barloed.

    There are a few other bugged achievements that appeared at the same time as level 80, such as multiple exalted reputation gains. Let's hope it all gets worked out by the time it goes live.

    Dalaran certainly contains fish!

  • Pipre, September 2008

    There are a ton of achievements that are not working retroactively that should quite obviously.:
    -The fishing diplomat: I'm alliance, and I have Old Crafty, yet did not recieve credit for having fished in Ogrimmar.
    -One that didn't get away: I have Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw in my inventory yet have not recieved the achievement.
    -Old Man Barlowned: Can't count the number of times I've done these quests (and haven't gotten the hat, 2 ring, or croc pet), no achievement.
    -Deadliest Catch: Fished up Gahz'ranka countless times as well. Have Nat Pagle's Fish Terminator equipped. No achievement.
    -Lurker Above: Have the Mallet of the Tides, fished him up many times, no achievement.

    The following I have completed, have not recieved the achievement, but are quite easy:
    -The Old Gnome and the Sea
    -The Scavenger
    -25 Fish to whatever the highest is. I probably got this achievement pre-BC. Spent countless hours in Azshara.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336628596&postId=93356715498&sid=2000#4

  • el, September 2008

    They have not tracked fish catches historically, so all retrospective awards are based on Bind on Pickup items and quests - and there are very few of these for fishing. And it seems everything you did in beta was reset at the last build (Friday night).

    The obvious one that Tigole responded to, was the Magical Crawdad not registering the "One That Didn't Get Away" (since the Magical Crawdad means you must have caught Mr. Pinchy). I think the only other 2 fish that could be added there are Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw, which and BoP. All the others can be traded, so having them doesn't prove you caught them.

    I also agree that cross-faction Crafty/Ironjaw should count (for The Fishing Diplomat), although unfortunately not for Horde, because Ironjaw can be caught in Ironforge.

    If the Deadliest Catch and Lurker Above are for fishing up the boss, then drops from that boss are not relevant, because anyone in the raid could have got them, without knowing how to fish.

    Old Man Barlowned wasn't consistent before, and I guess depends on how detailed their daily quest tracking is. I assume the game doesn't need to know you have completed dailies before, as it does regular quests.

    The fish catches could be calculated fairly easily from your skill level. Anglers with 375 skill have clearly caught a lot of fish. But I understand why they might want to start that fresh, since the skill level is only a rough approximation, not an accurate number.

    But then beta El doesn't appear to have any achievements at the moment, so I'm not able to comment on specifics - it's all broken...

  • Pipre, September 2008

    I completely agree El. The question with the bosses is one I'm interested in. Since Gahz'ranka is only a lvl 63 pretty much any class should be able to go into ZG, fish, and kill him. So that one isn't too big of an issue. Lurker, on the other hand is not such an easy fight. He has tons of health, and even getting to him is quite difficult, if not impossible without clearing all the trash in the intance. In other words you're going to need a party or raid to get you to the boss, and it's a lot of work for an achievement. A lot of work those of us who have already fished him up have done WAY too many times to want to force some friends to go back and do.

    I'll do it though. If I have to! Salty Petre must exist!

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How to solo The Lurker Above (Fish Lurker Below in SSC)

  • Gihelle, October 2008

    So, I got my attunement on how to fish Lurker solo 2 days ago (10/14), and I want to share with you. :)

    You fish Lurker Below in Serpentshrine Cavern. If you haven't cleared any trash there, you will be attacked by Frenzies once you swim in the water there.

    What you will need:

    - Elixir of Water Walking
    - Noggenfogger Elixirs (bring a lot)

    If you're a Mage, you can use Slow Fall instead of Noggenfogger, if you're a Priest, you can simply use Levitate.

    Get to SSC (you'll need a raid group), you'll be here after taking 2 elevators.
    http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08424/wowscrnshot_101508_071518408.jpg

    Take the Water Walking Potion and start spamming Noggenfogger until you get the Slow Fall effect, then drop to the water. Why? Because, when you take a Water Walking potion, water will be treated as floor. And you'll drop from somewhere high enough to take fall damage, and remove the water potion effect. If you get to swim in the water, you're dead.

    Once you land in the water, start walking to Lurker's platform.
    http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08424/wowscrnshot_101508_071544495.jpg

    Lurker's Platform looks like a debris with a giant shining pool on the center, you can see an overview here:
    http://xs132.xs.to/xs132/08424/wowscrnshot_101508_071639135.jpg
    Beware to not fall in the water, Water Walking Potions bug a lot for me.

    Here's the screenshot of me getting the achievement.
    http://xs432.xs.to/xs432/08424/lurker302.jpg

    And that's it! Unlike fishing Gahzranka, you don't get saved to SSC if you fish Lurker. But be sure to fish it naked, or else you'll take some unwanted durability hits ^_^

    Sorry for the bad english. Hope this is useful to you.

  • Cozmic, October 2008

    I am not sure if I am doing something wrong but when I tried I drank the potion then used my Skyguard cloak giving me slow fall but when I hit the water I didn't walk on it I fell through and the fish killed me. Any help?

  • Micha, October 2008

    I used this method myself, and I used the same items, so I'm not sure what your issue is. I can only see a limited number of possibilities, though.

    The point of the slow fall is to avoid fall damage. Any damage at all will break water walking. If you're popping the cloak too early, and you end up taking even one damage from the fall, you will end up in the drink, and the fish will spawn. However, I think the fall really isn't long enough for it to matter whether you hit the cloak early or late. Try it later in the fall, though, _after_ you a jump, a few seconds before you're going to hit the water. I don't think this is what killed you, but it's something to think about.

    There are a few other possibilities, too. You could have simply gotten unlucky and hit a glitched spot. There seem to be some areas like that which are unfriendly to water walking down there. Since you supposedly sunk on contact, this probably isn't it.

    You also could have strayed too close to the naga. It's very possible to aggro them if you don't jump to a far enough spot. They do have ranged attacks that will hit you and drop you into the water, even from their platforms. I died because of this on my first test run on the PTR. They might have popped you without you realizing it right as you hit the water.

    There _are_ also some bugs with certain abilities that prevent this method from working sometimes. For instance, levitate is very questionable when trying to reach Lurker in SSC, but that's a buggy ability by itself. I watched a priest get eaten twice because of levitate bugs where she just spontaneously fell into the drunk (edit: drink. I think I was channeling Nat for a moment there :P). You said potion, though, so this probably isn't it.

    This method also might have been hotfixed since I did it, but I seriously doubt that.

    Lastly, there's one answer which you may not like: you simply ran into the water without realizing it. Water walking does not force you to stay above water. If your camera is at a sufficient downward angle, which is very likely on the downward jump used in this method, and you press forward, you will sink into the water even with water walking. So if you were holding the forward key while you jumped, you would end up popping right into the drink.

    I think this covers just about everything. If any of this works, let me know.

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  • Blahbar, October 2008

    Soooooooooooo, I did it with JUST water walking potion and that is it. The timing was really lucky/tricky. I jumped into the water and IMMEDITILY jumped back out and poped my water walking potion before the fish spawned. Took about 5 trys but I got it.

  • NiceBloke, October 2008

    Gonna try this at the weekend (Undead Priest).

    Stupid questions time:

    1] How do I get to Serpentshrine Cavern?

    2] Can I start a Raid by myself or do I need another player?

    Thanks.

  • Cozmic, October 2008

    SSC is in Zangamarsh where the other instances are located ( Slave Pens, Underbog, Steamvaults). The instance is behind the waterfall straight ahead as you get out of the water. You need to have a raid group to enter the instance, which is a minimum group of two converted to a raid group. Hope this helps.

  • Cozmic, October 2008

    Micha wrote:

    I used this method myself, and I used the same items, so I'm not sure what your issue is. I can only see a limited number of possibilities, though.
    The point of the slow fall is to avoid fall damage. Any damage at all will break water walking. If you're popping the cloak too early, and you end up taking even one damage from the fall, you will end up in the drink, and the fish will spawn. However, I think the fall really isn't long enough for it to matter whether you hit the cloak early or late. Try it later in the fall, though, _after_ you a jump, a few seconds before you're going to hit the water. I don't think this is what killed you, but it's something to think about.
    There are a few other possibilities, too. You could have simply gotten unlucky and hit a glitched spot. There seem to be some areas like that which are unfriendly to water walking down there. Since you supposedly sunk on contact, this probably isn't it.
    You also could have strayed too close to the naga. It's very possible to aggro them if you don't jump to a far enough spot. They do have ranged attacks that will hit you and drop you into the water, even from their platforms. I died because of this on my first test run on the PTR. They might have popped you without you realizing it right as you hit the water.
    There _are_ also some bugs with certain abilities that prevent this method from working sometimes. For instance, levitate is very questionable when trying to reach Lurker in SSC, but that's a buggy ability by itself. I watched a priest get eaten twice because of levitate bugs where she just spontaneously fell into the drunk (edit: drink. I think I was channeling Nat for a moment there :P). You said potion, though, so this probably isn't it.
    This method also might have been hotfixed since I did it, but I seriously doubt that.
    Lastly, there's one answer which you may not like: you simply ran into the water without realizing it. Water walking does not force you to stay above water. If your camera is at a sufficient downward angle, which is very likely on the downward jump used in this method, and you press forward, you will sink into the water even with water walking. So if you were holding the forward key while you jumped, you would end up popping right into the drink.
    I think this covers just about everything. If any of this works, let me know.

    I just re did it today. It must have been my camera angle making me fall through the water. Thanks for the help. Need Pinchy now :(

  • Yoco, October 2008

    Thanks for the guide! I managed to get the achievement completed on my mage with the help of your screenshots.

  • Nivmizzet, October 2008

    Thank you so much for this, I've been thinking how I was going to fish the lurker below when my guild didn't progress too far in terms of raiding. I'm going to give this a shot later on tonight. Thank you! :) :)

  • Kemtgor, October 2008

    Thank you! While I've not tried this yet, this was one of the two parts of the achievements I was worried about -- I can keep fishing and try to get a Pinchy and the One that Got Away, but persistence doesn't get me into a raid for SSC, nor does it change the STV Extravaganza. This is one less roadblock in my path, hopefully. Thanks again!

  • Morganna, October 2008

    Thanks for this works like a charm, just a quick note to say use your pots before you jump, I made the mistake of jumping and trying to use it (noob - I know) went though the water & was fish food.

    Now just the one that got away left to get!

  • Idoru, October 2008

    I just couldn't get the Water Walking elixir to work, no matter what I did I always ended up being fishfood. Even when standing on a pipe next to the water and just walking forward, I would go under.

    So, I used Invisibility potions and Skyguard's Drape (10 sec. slow fall).

    Got as close as I could to the first pack, and used the first Invisibility potion. Ran to the next platform, and just before the second pack I jumped off the left side towards the pipe that goes into the water. Landed on the pipe and had to wait for CD on Invivibility potion, before I could use another to swim to the next pipe, that comes out of the water and goes up to the platform above Lurker's platform. Waited for CD on Skyguard's Drape (yaaawn 20 min) then jumped down and landed on Lurkers platform.

  • Pipre, October 2008

    You could have used that time to get closer to the 1000 fish achievement (If you aren't already there)!

  • Sore, October 2008

    I will also point out that it is currently the Halloween Holiday in the game - you might be able to get transformed into a Whisp or a Ghost from a wand or from random Trick or Treating. Whisps and Ghosts also have the ability to walk on water...so, something to consider as well.

  • Zemalf, October 2008

    I made a video showing how this is done solo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2GPZwpkwPg

  • SoFarKngFast, December 2008

    I did this last night. Being a warrior, with no slow-fall ability, the easiest way I found was to:

    1) Buy a water walking elixir
    2) Buy an invisibility potion (18 seconds)
    3) Follow the directions in the video
    4) Equip Azure Silk Belt
    5) Right before getting in the water, I walked half-way down the ramp (not aggroing the mobs, I did that once and promptly died) popped my invisibility, jumped in the water, swam like I've never swam before and got hit twice by the fish right as I made it to the pipe
    6) Pop water-walking potion, walk-over to the pool (Don't forget to unequip your gear to save some repair costs) and fished it up

    Now, to cach Mr. Pinchy...again...

  • Bubunya, January 2009

    Thanks a lot!
    Helps me a bunch :O)
    Now only two left, and one is a STV...:O(

  • Kreight, February 2009

    I managed this as an 80 prot warrior with no pots, and I'm guessing that other tank classes might be able to swing it.

    For starters, I didn't jump in as the same spot as the dwarf in the video. If you head down the walkway to the first platform and hug the side away from the mobs you can make it by without aggroing them. There are other roving pats further up the walkway, so you have to time it so they're at their furthest when you get there. You should be able to make it past the first platform with the mobs and make it to the second.

    At that point, you're a little closer to that first pipe you can see from the ledge where you would have jumped. That's what you're aiming for. I had some +40 STAM buff food that put me in the low 30K hp range. I popped Last Stand, Shield Wall and a +dodge trinket I have and jumped in. Not long after the biting started I hit Enraged Regeneration. I managed to make it to the pipe with a few seconds to spare. You've got to get out of the water fast, because if you're not out far enough the bitings will continue.

    At that point I took a breather. I ate again and filled up the health bar, then waited until everything but Shield Wall was off of cooldown.

    At this point you can look off toward where you're heading and see the Strange Pool. There's another pipe that's relatively close by. I popped Last Stand and the trinket again and swam over to that, with about half-health when I landed.

    This pipe goes up to a walkway and back down the other side. There are mobs in either direction, but far enough away so that you won't aggro them. Once you've run as far as you can, the Strange Pool is within spitting distance. For good measure I waited for Shield Wall to come off of cooldown, then used everything again and made it to the walkway of the pool with no problem.

    Then I stripped down, whipped out my pole (the Kalu'ak one, perverts) and fished myself up a Lurker. Then I died a horrible death, but not before whupping him across the face a couple of times.

  • Azaguth, February 2009

    I managed it at 72 on a DK (about 2 months ago), using path of frost and noggenfogger. I also managed to quickly die when he came up. XD

  • Eltressa, February 2009

    Just to add that if you're a paladin you can just bubble when jumping instead of using noggenfogger. So all you need is a water walking potion :)

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The Coinmaster

  • Faela, November 2008

    This achievement is driving me mad! For a week now, I've only needed Thrall's Gold Coin. I have Silver in the City and Penny for your Thoughts completed since last Friday. Since then, I've fished at least 30 minutes every day in the damn fountain, sometimes an hour, and that last coin still refuses to drop! I think I've spent as much time fishing just for the last coin as I spent fishing for all the others.

    Anyone else in this situation? Argh!

  • Kemtgor, November 2008

    Chromie and Arugal. Had the rest done for a while. Alternatively, I've have a stack of 8-10 of Archimonde's left even after using them for buffs, and I'd guess an average of five of all the rest of the golds.

  • kamitomo, November 2008

    It took me about 3 1/2 hours to get all the coins I needed. Thrall's coin was one of the rare golds, but I did get a total of two of them by the time I was done.

    After the first hour of fishing, I only needed 5 coins: 1 copper, 1 silver, and 3 gold. (A friend of mine reported the same pattern). After another hour of fishing I got the missing copper. After another hour I got the missing silver, and two of the missing golds. The final gold came up about 1/2 hour later.

    Here are some suggestions:

    -- Throw back your gold coins (one at a time!). During the 2 minutes that the luck buff lasts, you should get seven catches. 2 to 4 of these should be coins.

    -- Get your fishing up so that you don't have any fish "getting away", as this wastes your luck buff. Here are some ideas to increase your fishing skill:
    1. Use the best pole you can get, but use the +25 Pagle pole as a minimum.
    2. Use a +100 lure (a good source of these is the Outlands daily fishing quest)
    3. Go to the Dalaran sewers and search for Underbelly Elixirs. If you are lucky, drinking one of these will turn you into a walrus guy with +50 fishing skill.
    4. Use your cooking skill to brew up some Captain Rumsey's Lager which will give you another +10 skill.
    5. Get the +5 fishing enchant for a pair of "fishing gloves".
    These measures alone will boost your skill by 190, which should be enough to avoid the "your fish got away" problem for anyone with a skill in the upper 300's.
    Of course, you may also have other "+" goodies that this site can tell you about, but the one's I've listed are probably the easiest to do.

    -- If you haven't already done so, bind a key or a mouse button to the casting "spell" so that you don't waste any time re-casting once you've clicked on the float.

    -- Get out your favorite pet, clean it so it sparkles, and feed it a pet treat so that it loves you. This, of course, has absolutely no effect on your fishing skill or chance to catch anything, but it does make you feel better, and you can always toss a ball of wool for it to fetch every so often to help break the monotony... :)

    Hope this helps and Good Luck!

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  • Faela, November 2008

    Nice tips, but unfortunately, I'm using all the coin buffs I can, I have 450 fishing and maximum buffs from fishing gear (including the hat lure), and I certainly do have fishing bound to a key.

    I just spent another 2 hours fishing for Thrall's coin and still nothing, although someone next to me caught one...

  • Faela, November 2008

    Ok... after ANOTHER hour of fishing, I finally got the damn thing! I now have the title and my Seal. :) Now to work on the sewer rat...

  • Yender, November 2008

    I caught all but Teron's coin within a few hours. It then took me about 7 hours over a few days to get the last one. I hate RNG sometimes.

  • Krahn, November 2008

    Funny enough, one of the copper coins was the last coin for me to find. In fact, right before I caught my last coin, I had just caught an extra Thrall's Gold Coin. I never got to use it because I caught the last copper coin before my previous Lucky buff wore off.

    Now I have a Titanium Seal & Thrall's Gold coin in my Gigantique bag for good luck. My Mr. Pinchy was obtained next to Thrall so The Warchief brings me good Fishing luck for some reason. Whatever, For The Horde!

  • Faela, November 2008

    Yender wrote:

    I caught all but Teron's coin within a few hours. It then took me about 7 hours over a few days to get the last one. I hate RNG sometimes.

    RNG really does suck. I think I caught 20 Teron's coins trying to get Thrall's, it was the most common gold coin for me.

  • Rhamona, November 2008

    kamitomo wrote:

    It took me about 3 1/2 hours to get all the coins I needed. Thrall's coin was one of the rare golds, but I did get a total of two of them by the time I was done.
    After the first hour of fishing, I only needed 5 coins: 1 copper, 1 silver, and 3 gold. (A friend of mine reported the same pattern). After another hour of fishing I got the missing copper. After another hour I got the missing silver, and two of the missing golds. The final gold came up about 1/2 hour later.

    It took me a bit longer, as I did not fish consecutively (here and there in between questing and guild 5-man runs). But I did wind up needing only 1 copper, 1 silver, and 4 golds after a few hours' worth of fishing. Then I got both the copper and the silver within a few minutes of each other... and then another half hour to get three of the four gold coins I was missing. It took another couple of hours before I finally got that last elusive gold coin (Arthas', wouldn't you know it!)

    Now on dungeon runs, I'm being asked to flip my seal to decide whether we take the left or right path ;)

  • Oakthorn, November 2008

    Thrall's gold coin was the second or third gold coin I caught. There are only two gold coins I've caught more than once; can't remember what one of them was offhand, but it was NOT Thrall's. The other was Jaina's.

  • Leonie, December 2008

    I wasn't going to go to Dalaran until I could get there under my own steam, but I have been leveling slowly and a Warlock guildie was making an event of pulling us all in ...

    I tried fishing the fountain for the first time last night. I don't use add-ons, so I have no stats, but I was there for probably three hours, on and off. What struck me was the behavior. Fishing (STV fishing comp aside) used to be a bit genteel, but I observed all kinds on people rolling up and parking *on* other players, and non-fishers were delighting in "griefing" us by thrashing about in the fountain while mounted on Kodos or Mammoths or purposefully passing between the anglers and their lures.

    Is this usual on a PvE server? It was like a Gnome turned up and pee'd in my moonwell :(

  • Cryo, December 2008

    missing thrall's too. today i will take time, gain thralls coin and with it the salty title

  • Loafer, December 2008

    If you can get several people to fish in the same fountain and all throw in simultaneous gold coins, the odds get better. Kind of hard to tell how many had active gold coins at the same time, but with five fishing in the same tiny fountain next to the trainer, I was getting about 80-90% coins for a minute or so. Happened repeatedly when there were a bunch fishing at the same time. Biggest drawback is the hassle of trying to watch your lure with that many lures in the same pool. Couldn't rely on the sound at all.

  • Utopia, December 2008

    Finally got thrall's coin last night,and with it the fun of casually flipping my titanium seal :D
    Had to pretty much fish up every copper coin over again by the time i finally landed it though,and at one point there were 7 of us all fishing at once,so I couldn't even take my eyes of my bobber to read guildchat.
    The only thing holding me up from being salty now is winning the extravagan(k)za.....this may take a while ......

  • Dethwolf, December 2008

    Sigh

    2 gold coins to go since i hit the wall..ive gotten each gold coin again..just not the 2 i need =(
    Guess I'll just hug my rat and keep trying

  • Senthea, December 2008

    Dethwolf wrote:

    Sigh
    2 gold coins to go since i hit the wall..ive gotten each gold coin again..just not the 2 i need =(
    Guess I'll just hug my rat and keep trying

    I'm in the same boat, have 2 gold coins left... caught all the others at least 3 times (some even more then 10 times...)

  • Kanobi, December 2008

    I had all but one gold coin within 4 hours of fishing, and then an additional 2 hours before I was very discouraged not getting that dopey Argual's gold coin (after I got all other gold coins at least twice). It was the very last coin before that wonderful Salty title, and after seeing how anxious and disappointed I was getting, my girlfriend suggested "what if you move just a few feet away and try fishing??" I figured it wouldn't make a difference but I did it anyway, and lo-and-behold, the very NEXT cast, what do I fish up???? Argual's Gold Coin!!! To all those anglers out there, just hang in there. You'll get that title and the congratulations soon enough. :)

  • BigFire, December 2008

    Took me on or off about 6 hours to get the achievement. The big problem are the griefers who need to demonstrate their lack of life by jumping into the fountain with a vehicle type mount and block the view of everyone's lure. Now that I have my coin, my next objective is the rat.

  • Volrax, December 2008

    I got all the silver coins before all the coppers. I had been fishing for a couple hours and I was only missing Arugal's coin, when a guildie asked for help with a group quest in Grizzly Hills. I tagged along, and who were we there to kill? Arugal, of course. After we killed him, I ported myself back to Dalaran, and caught the last gold coin in fairly short order.

  • moose, December 2008

    So I'm a cute little gnome flipping my coin in Dalaran and along comes a big giant Tauren and he starts flipping his coin too. We stand around emoting at each other for a while. Funny how you can make friends over a silly little coin. :)

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