Flying Tiger Gourami

Flying Tiger Gourami

Where to catch Flying Tiger Gourami.

About Flying Tiger Gourami

  • "A fish with wings? That's a new one." Binds when caught. Unique.
  • Use:

    Quest: Starts Flying Tiger Gourami (Quest) - bring the fish to Nat Pagle at the Anglers Wharf in Krasarang Wilds. See Nat Pagle's Friendship. Nat Pagle says, "This little fish is a rare mutation of the tiger gourami that can fly, and are consequently caught in any freshwater here in Pandaria. Local legend states that good luck comes to the person who eats it, and local tradition states that only royalty can eat them. To be caught breaking this 'tradition' is a death sentence. With that in mind, I'll make sure it gets to the right person."
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Catching Flying Tiger Gourami

  • Notes:

    Flying Tiger Gourami may be caught from all areas of inland open water in Pandaria, except waters near Sha-touched lands (where Spinefish Alpha are caught). Since patch 5.1, the fish can also be caught from pools - typically the pools found in the same areas of open water. This fish is unique: You cannot catch a second Flying Tiger Gourami while the first is in your bags. The fish starts a quest which can only be completed once each day. If you catch a second Flying Tiger Gourami after completing the quest, you will not be able to deliver the second catch until the following day. Quest "days" reset at 03:00 (PST for US realms, CET for EU realms, and Australian EST for Oceanic realms).
  • Commentary:

    The catch rate from open water is similar to pools. Pool fishing is slightly slower than open water fishing, since time is spent moving between pools. This penalty is only partly offset by using an Ancient Pandaren Fishing Charm (which increases the number of fish caught from pools by 20%, but does not increase the time taken to fish those pools). Pools contain a much higher proportion of Valuable Fish than open water, so are a better option if you are fishing for food or profit. Pools only require skill 1 to fish effectively, so are the best choice at low skill. Both open water and pools have sufficiently similar overall catch rates, that sometimes the choice between open water and pools is a matter of personal preference - do you feel like sitting down or moving around?
  • Guide:

    Nat Pagle's Friendship - Guide to gaining Nat Pagle's friendship.
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Where to Catch Flying Tiger Gourami
WaterAreasNo-Junk SkillCatch RateCommon Catch
% of CatchSample
Brew Frenzied Emperor SalmonFish of the Day: Valley of the Four Winds (Stormstout Brewery)14% [1]
2328Emperor Salmon
Crowded Redbelly MandarinFish of the Day: Townlong Steppes (Inland) (Fields of Niuzao)14% [1]
2328Redbelly Mandarin
Emperor Salmon SchoolInland: Krasarang Wilds, Townlong Steppes (Inland), Valley of the Four Winds14% [1]
2328Emperor Salmon
Glimmering Jewel Danio PoolFish of the Day: Timeless Isle (Mossgreen Lake)14% [1]
2328Jewel Danio
Glowing Jade LungfishFish of the Day: The Jade Forest (Inland) (Enchanted Woods of the Lost)14% [1]
2328Jade Lungfish
Jade Lungfish SchoolInland: The Jade Forest (Inland)14% [1]
2328Jade Lungfish
Jewel Danio SchoolInland: Timeless Isle14% [1]
2328Jewel Danio
Krasarang Paddlefish SchoolInland: Krasarang Wilds, Valley of the Four Winds14% [1]
2328Krasarang Paddlefish
Large Pool of Brew Frenzied Emperor SalmonFish of the Day: Valley of the Four Winds (Stormstout Brewery)14% [1]
2328Emperor Salmon
Large Pool of Crowded Redbelly MandarinFish of the Day: Townlong Steppes (Inland) (Fields of Niuzao)14% [1]
2328Redbelly Mandarin
Large Pool of Glimmering Jewel Danio PoolFish of the Day: Timeless Isle (Mossgreen Lake)14% [1]
2328Jewel Danio
Large Pool of Glowing Jade LungfishFish of the Day: The Jade Forest (Inland) (Enchanted Woods of the Lost)14% [1]
2328Jade Lungfish
Large Pool of Tiger Gourami SlushFish of the Day: Kun-Lai Summit (Inland) (Master Snowdrift's Pagoda)14% [1]
2328Tiger Gourami
Large Swarm of Panicked PaddlefishFish of the Day: Krasarang Wilds (Krasari Falls)14% [1]
2328Krasarang Paddlefish
Open WaterInland: The Jade Forest (Inland)6504% [1]
767Golden Carp
Open WaterInland: Krasarang Wilds, Valley of the Four Winds7004% [1]
2126Golden Carp
Open WaterInland: Townlong Steppes (Inland)7254% [1]
690Golden Carp
Open WaterInland: Kun-Lai Summit (Inland), The Veiled Stair7504% [1]
1831Golden Carp
Open WaterInland: Timeless Isle, Vale of Eternal Blossoms8254% [1]
791Golden Carp
Redbelly Mandarin SchoolInland: Townlong Steppes (Inland)14% [1]
2328Redbelly Mandarin
Swarm of Panicked PaddlefishFish of the Day: Krasarang Wilds (Krasari Falls)14% [1]
2328Krasarang Paddlefish
Tiger Gourami SchoolInland: Kun-Lai Summit (except Coastal), The Veiled Stair14% [1]
2328Tiger Gourami
Tiger Gourami SlushFish of the Day: Kun-Lai Summit (Inland) (Master Snowdrift's Pagoda)14% [1]
2328Tiger Gourami
  • [1] Caught alongside another fish (total catch rate will add up to more than 100%)

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Flying Tiger Gourami

  • Marlburo, September 2012

    Stats outside flight path in Thunder Cleft (Krasarang Wilds):

    Golden Carp: 27 (54%)
    Krasarang Paddlefish: 12 (24%)
    Emperor Salmon; 9 (18%)
    Sealed Crate: 1 (2%
    FLYING TIGER GOURAMI: 1 (2%)

  • Nugdaq, September 2012

    My stats at Pools of Purity in Valley of the Four Winds -
    Golden Carp - 15 (60%)
    Krasarang Paddlefish - 5 (20%)
    Emperor Salmon - 3 (12%)
    FLYING TIGER GOURAMI - 1 (4%)
    Sealed Crate - 1 (4%)

  • Yoshioka, October 2012

    Are you able to catch this fish in Inkgill Mere (Kun-lai Summit) along with Spinefish Alpha? That would be really convenient.

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  • el, October 2012

    Each area of open water contains just one Pagle fish. There are points around Inkgill Mere where the type of water changes, so if you fish on the border you'd have a chance to catch both. But the chance of catching each would reduce accordingly (0.5% and 1%), so you'd gain no advantage.

  • Britty, October 2012

    I can confirm that the Flying Tiger Gourami CAN appear in at least some of the Angler's Questing waters. I actually fished mine up when doing the Dojani Eel daily. Proof: http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj523/Britty_Kitty/WoWScrnShot_100212_173120_zps31a160e3.jpg

  • Augos-RH, October 2012

    Adding a seconded to Britty's finds. Caught a FTG while on the same Dojani Eel quest.

    http://i.imgur.com/SoEFO.jpg

  • Amilla94, October 2012

    Caught Flying Tiger Gourami at skill 525, in the Jade forest at the Arboretum.

    Golden Carp - 6
    Junk - 4
    Jade Lungfish - 1
    Flying Tiger Gourami - 1.

    took about 5 minutes?

  • celb, October 2012

    Caught one while fishing for Dojani Eels, http://imgur.com/FiQmO

  • Marlburo, October 2012

    I didn't find a "spot" for this fish until fairly recently but if you expand out these stats to 28 fish the total number of casts at Dawn's Blossom is 4591 (it should be noted I FIRMLY believe The Jade Forest is the worst zone to catch this fish).

    Golden Carp: 1640 (57%)
    Jade Lungfish: 576 (20%)
    Redbelly Mandarin: 560 (19%)
    Sealed Crate: 53 (1%)
    FLYING TIGER GOURAMI: 17 (0%)
    (2 failed attempts)

    TOTAL: 2848 (Note: this is already over the 2500 casts needed to catch 28 of the other 2 rare fish)

  • Brum, December 2012

    For me, the inland lake in Krasarang Wilds located below the western waterfall was a poor place to catch Flying Tiger Gourami. After 500 catches of normal freshwater fish, I gave up and moved to the river outside of Halfhill, where I caught that day's Flying Tiger after about 50 casts. In the course of maxing Pagle rep, that lake was the only spot where I topped 200 catches before landing a rare.

    Kind of anecdotal but I think the poor luck is worth noting if it prevents people from fishing in vain. Would like to hear if others have experienced the same or different at that lake.

  • Corgi, December 2012

    I even caught the Gourami once doing the fishing quests for the Cloud Serpents, over in the Arboretum stream in The Jade Forest.

  • Daedrynn, January 2013

    There are several incorrect assertions on this page:

    1. I catch both the Spinefish Alpha and the Flying Tiger Gourami every single day in the same place. At Firebough Nook lake, just north of Shado-Pan Fallback in Kun-Lai Summit. This is a Sha-touched area but does not prevent me from catching the gourami, therefore being a Sha-touched area has nothing to do with it.

    2. More than one Pagle fish can be caught in the same body of water. See #1.

    3. I now fish exclusively from the pools, and I get each fish from their respective pools,and it usually takes me 5-10 casts to get each one. When I fish outside pools, I can spend hours without catching one, which leads me to believe the drop rate is definitely higher in pools.

    4. The fish do appear in the Angler's Fishing waters. I catch my Mimic Octopus off the dock right next to Pagle. This takes significantly longer if there are no pools in the area to fish from. But I do catch it here every day.

    An observation: I have noticed that when I have one of the Pagle fish in my bag and I have accepted the quest but not turned it in, I cannot catch the other two Pagle fish until I turn it in. If I leave the items in my bag without accepting the quest, I have no problems catching the other fish and then I go and accept them all at once and turn them in. I have no idea if this is anything more than coincidence, but being superstitious, I now refuse to accept any of the quests until I have them all and I feel this has saved me a lot of fishing time.

  • Nurple, January 2013

    Ive caught the Spinefish Alpha from a pool as well, it is confirmed.

    http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d115/rothko1/spinefish_zpsacd7bc91.png

    Also, another confirmation of the pools is that once i caught this fish the pool disappeared. I also agree that there is something to accepting the quests or having them in your bags that seems to effect the catching of others.

  • el, January 2013

    Daedrynn - It certainly was only be possible to catch Spinefish Alpha from "Sha-touched" open water and Spinefish Schools. When the text refers to the same body of water, it means open water: Critically, there isn't one precise spot where one can cast into open water and catch 2 different Pagle fish from exactly the same point in the water. That was perhaps clearer when these fish could only be caught from open water.

    The catch from pools depends solely on the name of the pool. It just happens that there is a good correlation between where pools are found and the open water they are found in, so as a rough guideline for where to look for pools, it works in most cases. But, as you say, there are a few places where Tiger Gourami School spawn in Sha-touched waters, the north side of Firebough Nook being one.

    I'm sceptical that the pool catch rate has gone from 1-2% to 10-20% without more people noticing. That's a big change. How large is your sample size?

    There probably was a glitch with lower catch rates for Flying Tiger Gourami in areas of Krasarang with daily quests, but I suspect that was fixed during beta.

    Technically the Pagle fish have the same item ID regardless of whether the quest is accepted or not, thus the attributes of the catch apply regardless - accepting the quest or not should make no difference to anything. I never found any evidence that having caught one type of Pagle fish significantly influences the catch rate of the other 2. I suspect the observation is low-odds pattern-seeking - but like wearing the Lucky Fishing Hat, if you think it helps, that's your choice ;) .

  • Rysu, January 2013

    VERIFIED: Switching between the twig fishing pole (no pole equipped) and the Bone fishing pole makes you catch 13% more Pagle fish. ;)

    Kidding, of course. Love the site, El!

  • Daedrynn, January 2013

    el wrote:

    Daedrynn - It certainly was only be possible to catch Spinefish Alpha from "Sha-touched" open water and Spinefish Schools. When the text refers to the same body of water, it means open water: Critically, there isn't one precise spot where one can cast into open water and catch 2 different Pagle fish from exactly the same point in the water. That was perhaps clearer when these fish could only be caught from open water.
    The catch from pools depends solely on the name of the pool. It just happens that there is a good correlation between where pools are found and the open water they are found in, so as a rough guideline for where to look for pools, it works in most cases. But, as you say, there are a few places where Tiger Gourami School spawn in Sha-touched waters, the north side of Firebough Nook being one.
    I'm sceptical that the pool catch rate has gone from 1-2% to 10-20% without more people noticing. That's a big change. How large is your sample size?
    There probably was a glitch with lower catch rates for Flying Tiger Gourami in areas of Krasarang with daily quests, but I suspect that was fixed during beta.
    Technically the Pagle fish have the same item ID regardless of whether the quest is accepted or not, thus the attributes of the catch apply regardless - accepting the quest or not should make no difference to anything. I never found any evidence that having caught one type of Pagle fish significantly influences the catch rate of the other 2. I suspect the observation is low-odds pattern-seeking - but like wearing the Lucky Fishing Hat, if you think it helps, that's your choice ;) .

    Hi El! Thanks for your reply. The place that I stand to catch both the Spinefish Alpha and the Flying Tiger Gourami, is at Firebough Nook, on the Sha-touched side, in the little area of the shore that does not have the white "Sha smoke" on the beach. It's a tiny little break in the smoke, where a dead NPC lays on the ground by a building. I stand here because the white smoke acts like a barrier and makes my camera zoom way in. So the break in the smoke line allows me to zoom way out and see everything around me. Anyway, this little spot is where I always stand, and after fishing the pool that always spawns here, I just continue to fish until I have caught the two Nagle fish. That said, I'm not sure I understand your first paragraph, because I do stand in "one precise spot and catch two different Pagle fish." The only variable, I suppose, is that no two casts land in the same spot. Is that what you meant?

    You asked about my sample size... I use Fishing Buddy to keep track, and it currently shows that I have cast in that area 622 times and caught each of the two fish every day for the last 15 days, which I believe is a drop rate of about 4.8% cumulatively. It's also important to note that my cast rate is inflated because I have, pretty regularly, continued to fish after catching the first two Pagle fish, in order to get fish to turn in for tokens. So I actually thing that 4.8% should be a little higher. I do NOT have that much success with the Mimic Octopus however, which is showing a rate of 1.8% for me over 15 days. So my sample size is relatively small, and not being much of a math whiz, I have no idea how much combining the catch rate of the Spinefish and the Gourami affects the results, especially since the rate for the Spinefish is apparently double.

    And yes, I totally believe in the power of my Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat (don't have the Lucky Hat or Nat's Hat, so this oldie-but-goodie will have to do!) :D

  • Rysu, May 2013

    5/25/13: Hi, it's been a while since I've posted. Just wanted to note that while I was fishing for the Tiny Carp I caught a Flying Tiger Gourami from the Glittering Jewel Danio schools. No big deal, but afterwards I had gone around and picked up the rest of the Pagle fish. After that, I returned to the Jeweled Danio schools and continued fishing when suddenly, another Flying Tiger Gourami appeared. Startled, I rushed to the website to tell you.

    I hope this makes sense to someone because last I heard you could not catch more than one a day.

  • Rysu, May 2013

    Oh, scratch that. You can catch more than one, only have one in your bag at a time, and can't accept the quest for it more than once a day. I gotcha.

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Nat Pagle's Friendship: The Fish ARE in Pools!

  • Clawmarks, October 2012

    On the page about Nat Pagle's Friendship, under Strategy, El wrote:

    "These Pagle fish cannot (at the time of writing) be caught from pools, only open water"

    I'm happy to report that today, I caught a Flying Tiger Gourami in a Redbelly Mandarin pool in the Jade Forest. What a relief it was to see I could stick to fishing in pools of fish that I needed for my cooking and I would not miss out on these dailies with each cast! <3

  • el, October 2012

    I'll keep on testing this, but I'm sceptical because I have a couple of thousand pool catches since release (and thousands more on test), and have never caught a Pagle fish from a pool.

    At the risk of sounding prematurely dismissive, one possible explanation for what you saw is phasing: Several parts of the Jade Forest (especially in the center) are phased. In Pandaria, pools exist simultaneously in all phases at once. Consequently a pool can be emptied by an angler in a different phase, who cannot themselves be seen. Unfortunately the visual update process lags, while the catch is instantly determined by what the server expects you to be seeing. So one can have a situation where the catch appears to come from a pool, but the pool was actually emptied a few seconds earlier by an angler in a different phase - and the server gives you an open water fish, while you're still looking at a pool. It is a rare occurrence, and combined with a Pagle fish is even rarer, but I'll mention it as a possibility.

    Edit: See update below - as of patch 5.1 these fish are caught in pools.

  • Dajo, October 2012

    10/08/12 5PM

    Caught a Tiger Gourami from the Dojani River while I was on the Angler quest 'Shocking!'.

    So these can in fact be caught from quest locations!

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  • Clawmarks, October 2012

    El, I concede your point. The possibility that cross-phasing pools can be visually deceiving is frustrating to say the least. If you and others have fished thousands, then statistical anomalies like my catch are bound to occur but cannot be said to be significant enough to make such a claim. I recently finished off a Reef Octopus pool, and let my last bobber stay for a catch after the pool had been spent. The immediate catch after the pool's disappearance was a Mimic Octopus, and, had the visual lagged, I would have jumped to the same conclusion as before.

    I remember I once (and only once) got a skill up from a gray level profession production. In the seven years I have played, including maxing all the professions available, and some of those multiple times, it has never happened again. Perform enough tests, and odd blips in the data will occur.

    Thanks for being professional, El. :)

  • Scornn, October 2012

    Just caught a Flying Tiger Gourami from a Tiger Gourami pool on the Spring road (4th cast), right where you take the quest to travel through the tunnel to K-L Summit.

  • el, November 2012

    So as of patch 5.1, these fish are now in pools. From Jonathan LeCraft:

    "The special fish that Nat Pagle craves can now be caught from fishing pools as well."

    I assume this means catches from pools found in appropriate areas of water. For example, Spinefish Alpha from Spinefish School, not from all pools in Pandaria. Confirmations would be great - this is a time-consuming change to test!

  • Madruga, November 2012

    Came rushing here because I got a Flying Tiger Gourami from a pool today! Only to see that this was a change in patch 5.1 *blushes*

    But anyway, I got not 1, but 2 Flying Tiger Gouramis from Krasarang Paddlefish pools in Valley of Four Winds today. The first was from a pool right next to the spotwhere Galleon spawns. I went to deliver the quest, and 15 minutes later, another one popped up from another Krasarang Paddlefish pool, this time to the left of Stormstout Brewery.

    For the record, it was 6:00 PM my server time, my fishing is maxed out, I was not using any fishing gear, but was using the Pandaren Fisherman buff.

  • Noodleguitar, December 2012

    At level 87, I was fishing in Tiger Gourami pools and I caught a Flying Tiger Gourami. Still this level, I was able to go to Nat Pagle and turn in the fish and I got the full rewards (reputation and Valor points).

  • Truffula, December 2012

    Has anyone caught anything but the Flying Tiger Gourami in pools? It's all I've seen mentioned and all I've caught in pools from the Vale.

  • el, December 2012

    Catches from pools broadly mimic open water: Flying Tiger Gourami in all the inland pools except Spinefish School, which contain Spinefish Alpha, with Mimic Octopus in Giant Mantis Shrimp Swarm and Reef Octopus Swarm. Quests require level 85 or above.

  • Tikicarol, December 2012

    Caught a "Flying Tiger Gourami" from a pool inside that cave on the far west coast of Townlong Steeps while on the guest that takes you there. It was only my 3 or 4th cast hence my surprise. I screamed "Oh My GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD" In real life :D, then came right here to see that in fact it's kind of common.
    Oh well......

  • Noodleguitar, December 2012

    It seems that using the Ancient Pandaren Charm does not increase your chances to catch one of the rare fish from pools. This screenshot shows I caught 2 Reef Octopus along with the Mimic Octopus, so therefore even if the Charm procs, the loot still has an equal chance for a rare to be included.

  • salty stratt, December 2012

    not sure about this... the first rare fish i ever caught was a flying tiger out of an emperor salmon pool near halfhill right after MoP went live. i didn't even know there were rare fish up until then... that said, that was the only rare i've ever caught from a pool.

  • Harbin, December 2012

    I catch all 3 each day from pools, I do however get bored with the Spinefish Alpha so just open fish him sometimes, seems to be the best way to make money along the way, however can be very time consuming

  • Harbin, December 2012

    I catch all 3 each day from pools, I do however get bored with the Spinefish Alpha so just open fish him sometimes, seems to be the best way to make money along the way, however can be very time consuming

  • belgal, December 2012

    I was happily surprised when I caught 2 Flying Tiger Gourami from the pools in Dojani River in Karasang Wilds today. Leveling alt fishing AND rep = WIN!

  • Druegar, January 2013

    You can have two Unique items? I didn't think that was possible.

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