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Catches in Ironforge
Water and AreaFishCatch RateNotesOther Catches
% of CatchSample
Open Water - InlandRaw Longjaw Mud Snapper55%
2049-Armor, weapons, and certain ("world drop") professions recipes
Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish25%
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Raw Brilliant Smallfish20%
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17-32 Pound Catfish<1%-
Bloated Mud Snapper<1%-
Lesser Healing Potion<1%-
Lesser Mana Potion<1%-
The 1 Ring<1%-
Old Ironjaw<1%-
Baby Crocolisk-Quest Only
Blind Minnow-Quest Only
Young Ironjaw-Quest Only

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Old Ironjaw

  1. Schrodinger, September 2008:

    Well after being very lucky getting Magical Crawdad on my first pinchy (571 Furious crawdads I counted) and Old Crafty in under 50 casts.

    I thought how about getting Ironjaw.

    I finally got fishing buddy, and now on my 1050 cast.

    No luck yet =P

    How long did it take others?

  2. Schrodinger, September 2008:

    1500 casts and he is mine ^^

  3. Periwinkle93084, September 2008:

    I am horde and it took me 534 Catches(Fish/Items) to wrangle up Old Ironjaw.

    333 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    107 - Raw Bristle Water Catfish
    89 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    2 - 17 Pound Catfish
    1 - Bloated Mud Snapper
    1 - Spellbinder Cloak
    1 - Lesser Mana Potion

  1. Zahana, September 2008:

    500+ cast before I finally got him, now to sneak into org and get Crafty

  2. heraklen, September 2008:

    Well Im NOT lucky .

    Well above 1500+ casts now , have 3 green items , 4x17 Pound Catfish , 2x19Pound Catfish
    And more than 4x healing pots and manapots but STILL no Ironjaw

    Sneaked into Ironforge, died a couple of times getting to Forlorn cavern but no kills inside the cave , some nice allys have waved and fished with me and much of the fishing have been while they have raced their Brewfest ram's through the cave :-)

    I will not surrender , the elusive one will be mine!!

  3. Foffa, September 2008:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

  4. heraklen, September 2008:

    Foffa wrote:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

    First of all , nice hints here read the "Tips for Horde by Kabby" : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34484

    You need to get to Ironforge , I read some hints taking the tram to ironforge was the best thing = NOT - I was killed a lot , don't go that way.

    I stormed through the main gate , jumped down to the lava and died 3 times while going to Forlorn cavern (thats the place with 3 dots on the map from wowhead).
    Make a macro that makes you "/sleep" that way you can look dead to some guys even while fishing.

    Good luck.

  5. Cozmic, September 2008:

    Just caught mine today. Very exciting, around 1000 catches.

  6. Bekkabakoo, September 2008:

    I got Old Ironjaw after ctaching 163 fish and other various junk. Other valuable items were:

    85 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    44 - Raw Bristle Water Catfish
    33- Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    1 - 17 Pound Catfish
    1 - Lesser Mana Potion

    I am a gnome so no fighting to get these, Old Crafty is next. I'll report on the number of ganks.

  7. Swoosh, September 2008:

    Foffa wrote:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

    As a rogue, it's rather easy to sneak into Ironforge so can't really give you any other advice than bring greater invisibility potions :)

    Realize, however, that as soon as you enter IF, you'll be flagged for PvP. Even if you're playing on a PvE server, meaning that guards will attack you and Allies can attack you if they so wish.

    Regarding places to fish the only two I know of are:
    The pool in the Mystic Ward
    The Forlorn Caverns.

    You probably don't want to fish the Mystic Ward as that is a highly trafficed area, where as the most people that come through The Forlorn Caverns are people doing their Ram Racing. Now in the Forlorn Caverns, the water is not very deep until a fair bit out, so what I did was to hug the right wall, go out until just before I started swimming and do /sleep resulting in you being underwater without actually getting the breath bar. It'll look something like this when you fish:

    http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iffishexamplebs9.jpg

    Of course your name will be glaring red and sticking out like a sore thumb, but most don't see it, don't care or believe you're a corpse.

    What to do when you *do* get spotted then? I took the Ghandi approach. Seeing as I was very lucky getting Old Crafty in Orgrimmar, I figured that I'd prolly spend a lot of time in IF fishing for the ally equivalent. Therefore I'd rather not bring down the whole wrath of IF by killing peeps to the left and right. I was there for approx 1000 throws and got ganked a total of 8 times, where 3 of them was by pesky, badly geared combat rogue at the very end at 2 am in the morning. The rest of the allies just killled me once and moved on. Fair game. I didn't fight back as I didn't want it to turn into a fun thing to do for them.

    There was however a lvl 13 dwarf hunter who kept attacking me, and I killed his pet numerous times. And the lvl 16 lock who pretty much pooed her pants when she smacked me with her mace and realized she PvP enabled :) Fun stuff.

    Anyway, hope this comment helps you Foffa and good anglin' to ya :)

  8. Peppep, September 2008:

    Three days ago I happened upon this website, and it really got me pumped on fishing. I went 1-375 in 2 days, in search of rare goodies and whatnot. Me being horde, I figured the first thing I would do once I got the 375 grind out of the way was go to Ironforge and land Old Ironjaw.

    I sneaked in and made a dash for the Forlorn Cavern. With a full pot of coffee I was ready for hours of fishing fun. Much to my surprise...it only took me FOUR casts to capture my prize. One Raw Brilliant Smallfish. Two Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper. The next thing I yank out of the water is Old Ironjaw!

    I'm still "sleeping" in the water of Ironforge in shock. I can't think of a better way to start my fishing career. This site is a healthy nugget of information and the forums are great. Thanks to everyone for their contributions, I hope to be a regular here =)

  9. heraklen, September 2008:

    Finally I got him!!

    Around 1700 casts , 5 green items , 4x17 Pound Catfish , 2x19Pound Catfish , several healing and manapots before the elusive one showed up!

    Happy dance!

    Next stop , Old crafty! - stupid me have already got the guy once but i trashed him before I knew the value and found this site.

  10. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    I've just parked myself in the Cavern ready for a battle of wits against Old Ironjaw.

    Being Horde I'm tucked away at the back of the cave wearing just a Lucky Fishing had and a pair of boots ;)

    If like me, you've never been into Ironforge - here's what to do.

    1] Strip off (no sense if paying repair bills if you can't stealth)
    2] Head to Hammerfall and go via Wetlands to the Gates of Ironforge
    3] Mount up and head into the city (try not to run over the guards cause they might daze you - then you'll be toast)
    4] Once inside the main gate - follow the path to the left and then head Clockwise round the city.
    5] Try not to get stuck in the middle of the pond in Mystic Ward like I did - go round it
    6] When you're in the Forlorn Cavern the pool will be on your Right - hug the wall to the back.
    7] Catch Ironjaw!

    When you're being chased by the guards, just keep heading towards the Cavern, even if you're knocked off your mount. If you die, just rez as far away from your body as you can so you gain those few extra feet towards your goal.

    Hope that helps.

  11. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    Just finished for the night on 1700 casts. Still no Ironjaw :(

  12. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    Well, I just shy of 2500 casts now - Still no sign of Ironjaw.

    I'm at that point where I've come too far to quit - but it's really frustrating.

    Bejeweled has saved some sanity and having a group of about 8 Ally fishing with me was fun.

    I JUST WANT THE DAMN FISH!!!!!!

  13. kyosei, October 2008:

    Just another tip for those hordies out there looking to get to Ironforge. Easiest way would be just to teleport to Gnomeregan from Booty Bay. Once outside, just head north-east towards the center and you should hit the Gates of Ironforge ^^

  14. Foffa, October 2008:

    Just started chasing this guy, so went to IF and to my big surprise it took a little over 2hrs before i got ganked the first time.

    Here's what i've got thus far:

    288 Longjaw Mud Snapper
    92 Bristle Whisker Catfish
    67 Brilliant Smallfish
    2 17 Pound Catfish
    2 Lesser Healing
    2 Lesser Mana
    1 Bloated Mud Snapper

    *** EDIT ***

    Over 1000 catches now, and still no sight of Old Ironjaw.

    Although i got
    1 22 pound catfish
    1 Bloated Mud Snapper
    1 Pioneer Boots
    so far...

  15. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    OH YEEEEEEAH!

    Old Ironjaw dropped for me this afternoon. Just putting in a quick half hours fish during my lunch break.

    I don't have the final count - but I'm guessing just over 2500.

    Now for Mr Pinchy.......

  16. Jonaleth, October 2008:

    Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper : 1546
    Raw Brilliant Smallfish : 435
    Raw bristle Whisker Catfish : 551
    17 Pound Catfish : 8
    19 Pound Catfish : 3
    22 Pound Catfish : 2
    The 1 Ring : 1
    Lesser Mana potion : 6
    Lesser Healing Potion : 4
    Green item : 1

    Old Ironjaw : 1

    Total : 2555

  17. Shircon, October 2008:

    i bet im close to 500 or 600 catches so far....Is there a way to reset Fishing buddy stats?

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Old Ironjaw, The Fishing Diplomat, and the Horde

  1. donquixote235, October 2008:

    Yesterday I found myself near Elwynn Forest, so I thought it would be a good time to pick up the Stormwind half of the Fishing Diplomat achievement.

    I've found that ever since they changed the entry guards to be lvl 75 rather than 65, sneaking in through the front door is a no-no; even with +stealth trinkets working overtime, they see right through it. My Vanish only has about a 50% chance of getting them off my back. Instead I've discovered that the best way to get into Stormwind is to come the back way through the new harbor around back. You can swim there from the Westfall/Elwynn border, and the guards are all lvl 65. Keep in mind that fishing from Stormwind Harbor does NOT count toward your Fishing Diplomat achievement; you have to apparently fish from inside the city walls for the achievement to take.

    I was able to stealth to the canals without much problem and grab my single catch. Since I was already in SW and the Deeprun Tram was not that far from me, I figured I'd take my chances at Old Ironjaw.

    Stealthing to the tram was not a problem; I think there was a single guard I had to avoid on the way. Once I got into the tram I opted to run the rails rather than take the tram, as I was still flagged and I didn't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself.

    I came out at Ironforge in Tinkertown, which is very close to the Forelorn Cavern. This was indeed much better than coming through the front door! This way I'd have to deal with at most 5 lvl 75 guards rather than the score or so that I'd have to deal with from the front entry. However 5 guards was about 5 more than I wanted to deal with!

    I mounted up and started to make a mad dash toward the cavern. Sure enough, the first pair of guards aggroed me. I then rode straight into the middle of the second pair, and picked up their aggro as well. I was almost to the cavern when they dismounted me, so I dropped a Vanish and prayed. I got the message "Leaving Combat" and breathed a sigh of relief.

    About one second later I encountered the fifth guard, whom I had not counted on. This guard pats the wall directly across from the cavern entrance. If I'd stuck to the south wall there's a very good chance I could have avoided him. I knew I was going to die but I figured I'd at least do it in a good position. So I ran for the water and managed to swim about halfway across the pool before I got killed.

    After that, it was easy. I did the necessary corpse-run, edged myself against the south wall, did a /sleep command to bring a low profile, and started fishing.

    At first I had the place entirely to myself. After a couple of minutes a Human Paladin showed up and I started to get worried; I really didn't want to fight anybody, I just wanted a nice pacifist fishing trip. After a few seconds he waved at me and proceeded to fish by my side. Awesome.

    Every couple of minutes another Alliance character would ride by the pool. Most didn't even see me, but some would stop and look at me for a few seconds and then ride on. I only had one character try to pick on me, a Draenei Shaman. My solution to this was to Vanish and then move to another spot. He tried to locate me again but with no luck, and eventually went away. I then unstealthed and proceeded to start fishing again, and the two people who'd showed up there to fish cheered as I reappeared. What a great thing: cameradery between the factions, and all because of fishing!

    Finally (after about 150-200 throws) I got my prize - Old Ironjaw. The two other fishermen cheered me again, I took a bow, and I hearthed the heck out of there.

    In a nutshell, it's very possible and not that hard, as long as you come in through the back door at Stormwind and take the Deeprun Tram. Most people will ignore you (at least they did me) as long as you stick to fishing and don't try to fight anybody. If you are attacked it may even be best to take the blows and not fight back so that when you return the people who witnessed the battle know that you're not interested in fighting, just fishing.

  2. Nosajje, October 2008:

    SW Harbor is definitely the way to go when it comes to getting into SW and IF. My wife and I swam through westfall up into the harbor, got our catch for Fishing Diplomat, then ran into stockades to get Bazil kill achievement, then ran out and around through the park/dwarven district etc into town and took tram to IF. The whole time we never saw a single alliance.

  3. Thander, October 2008:

    I think your mileage may vary quite bit with this one. Running through stormwind to get to the tram without stealth might take awhile especially on a busy server. Then, the allis in Ironforge might not be so nice. Last, you may get unlucky catching Ironjaw and have to do >1000 catches. (increases your chances to get ganked greatly).

  1. Kattora, October 2008:

    Well I'm glad your time fishing wasn't horrific. But unfortunately, on Malygos, the Alliance forbid me to fish in their little pond. I've tried everything. Funky outfits, not fighting, emoting (/beg, /cower, /hug etc)...they always kill me, over and over. I even went as far as to log onto an alliance character I use for their AH and asked them nicely to let me fish... and I'd get a 'rofl' or a 'lol' and that's about it.
    I don't know how I'm gonna get that fish, I'm a shaman, I have to suicide my way there. I die at least 2-3 times from guards before I get to my spot just to die from Alliance. >_<
    Sleeping doesn't work, they can easily see you aren't dead. The giant red name above your body is what gives you away. If I could get my name into the wall and then /sleep, I'd be safe... but I can't. Why can't Blizzard place some rocks back there or something? >_< Alliance have several places to hide in Orgrimmar. I've seen them, and each time I do /greet and /cheer and leave them alone.

    Ironjaw seems so impossible to get. :(
    I've got Old Crafty but obviously that is much easier to do as Horde.

  2. Jagent, October 2008:

    Started fishing tonight around 2:30am, just caught Old Ironjaw at about 3:50am

    Roughly 325 fish caught before him

  3. Griezz, October 2008:

    Actually, I earned the Stormwind ambassadorial acheivement... well, not easily, but in a different manner.

    After crossing into Elwynn, I snuck through the countryside until I approached Stormwind's gates. Finally, I ran through the gates as quickly as possible. Trying hard to ignore the aggro'd guards (although I did die once), I immediately moved down the ramp to the right.

    That's right. I did not go along the bridge into Stormwind proper. I made it into the city's moat.

    Now here's the thing: if you CAREFULLY search the moat, hugging the city-side edge of the moat as much as possible, you WILL find a very small part of the moat's wall where you can stand and the text above the minimap actually says "Stormwind". Once you find this sweet spot, it's just a matter of pulling in a single fish, and you've got the acheivement (or this portion of it, anyways).

  4. Chalmette, October 2008:

    I did the Stormwind portion of fishing diplomat simply by swimming up towards the harbor from Westfall for a bit until the map said I had zoned in to Stormwind, and then I found a little hill along the cliffs and fished. Got the achievement as easy as that.

  5. Whisper, October 2008:

    Thanks for the tips, I'm trying this tonight

  6. el, October 2008:

    I investigated this (on the beta server, because "live" Stormwind is plagued with zombies), and I'm inclined to agree it is easier to enter via the Harbor, since there are far fewer guards, and they are lower level. I've updated the guide with this and some other suggestions. Keep the strategies coming!

    It is possible that the Stormwind catch criteria has changed. When I checked it last week (again on beta realms) fishing immediately to the south of the southern-most pier in the Harbor, triggered the achievement.

  7. Upstate, October 2008:

    While the zombies are attacking Shattrath you can become a zombie and use the portal to get to opposing faction city. In both Orgrimmar and Ironforge it takes you right to the fishing area.

  8. will, October 2008:

    I wanted to post for you horde members out there.

    Link Text

    You will have to scroll down a bit to find the picture and info. Keep in mind that you will still get ganked but at a much lesser rate.

    Essentially you will be fishing on an invisible ledge in the lava. Finding the ledge initially is a pain but well worth it. I was able to fish for over an hour before my first visitor, who did not kill me.

    For a total of about three hours I fished there getting killed twice. The funny thing is the cost of one honorable kill is equal to a 3-4 gold repair bill. The two attackers that I did have also died in the lava.

    Hopefully this will help some of you get your achievement.

  9. Thander, October 2008:

    will wrote:

    The funny thing is the cost of one honorable kill is equal to a 3-4 gold repair bill.

    You shouldn't be losing durability from PvP deaths. Are you saying you fell in the lava or guards killed you?

  10. el, October 2008:

    I presume the repair bills are for those that attempt to attack you, but fall into the lava doing so.

    To be honest, I thought the fish had been removed from the lava. Not to mention that it shouldn't be possible to jump down to the lava, or stand on an invisible ledge once you get there. Anyone know if it is possible to fish in "Old Ironforge" too?

  11. donquixote235, October 2008:

    el wrote:

    It is possible that the Stormwind catch criteria has changed. When I checked it last week (again on beta realms) fishing immediately to the south of the southern-most pier in the Harbor, triggered the achievement.

    I tried fishing from that slope just south of the southern dock with no success about ten days ago, but it's possible that even though I was technically in Stormwind my cast was not. Since there are two posts on here that refute my experience, I'd have to lean toward those experiences.

  12. Illuthas, October 2008:

    I just caught my Old Ironjaw too,though i did the diplomat achievement long before it since i was gonna do MGT,anyway i tried it yesterday and then on my way there i found 2 other ppl heading to IF too to fish him up,we teamed up and through the main gate we got there,badly was that there were 10 allies there fishing,and there were always a few killing us.
    Then i spotted some ghost hordes wanting to fish there too,sadly my group gave up to try later but i teamed up with the guys that were dead there.
    Normally there were 4 ppl in that group,1 that wanted to fish but wasnt there yet,1 that was already fishing there and then 2 that were helping him.
    They kept on killing us so one that was helping logged on his ally,a lvl11 warlock.After a long conversasion we couldnt understand the one that was already fishing there left.30 sec later the helper came back so they started helping me,it seems the talk worked since they didnt attack me anymore so i could just fish and 100th catch i caught Old Ironjaw (saw it with FB).
    To all ppl that get attacked while trying there,make an ally and try to reason them.

  13. Micha, October 2008:

    I made my life a lot easier by grabbing Old Ironjaw pre-3.0, but it's still very possible now. There are a few things to note as general rules.

    First of all, if you're a hunter who PvP's regularly, you know how obvious an enemy player in your city is. People who PvP a lot are trained to spot that red dot on their minimap, even when they're not looking directly at it, and this will give you away more than anything else. That's why you need to keep Aspect of the Beast up if you're a hunter. Luckily, if you're not a hunter, there is something else you can get to counter tracking. Camouflage Potions. Pop one of these babies, and you can't be tracked. I strongly recommend getting a stack of these items before you make your attempt.

    Lastly, there is a gap between you respawning and you showing up on track, meaning that if you respawn and immediately hit beast or quaff a potion, hunters will never see you reappear. If they're stupid, they'll figure you spirit healed. If they're smart, they will hit /target yourname and realize you're still around, but they still won't know exactly where you are (though they might then send their pet and follow it). Most hunters are stupid, though.

    If you don't spend a lot of time in enemy cities, here is another tip. It's not only guards you have to watch for. It's quest NPC's too. If you get spotted by some of them, they will drop you right into combat, and they will instantly spawn guards that will aggro onto you. Others will aggro nearby guards. So your objective is to avoid both if possible.

    Lastly, here's one for rogues. If you spend a lot of time in enemy cities, you are aware that every city has one or more "rogue killer" guards. Prior to Wrath, these guys remained at 60, so they weren't a huge danger. With Wrath, Blizzard decided to bump them _way_ up. These guys will spot you from a mile away, even with max Master of Deception, and they will cut you to pieces rather quickly. You should stay the Hell away from them. The one in Ironforge won't be a problem because he wanders the front. The one in Stormwind can be a major downer if you're trying to stealth to the tram. With Wrath, there also seems to be a new behavior where they're instantly spawned if an immobile guards spots you while stealthed.

    I'm also going to add a few city-specific tips.

    First of all, fishing in Org:

    I'm Horde, but I've asked myself how Alliance could do this most easily. There is water in the Valley of Honor, but I'm not sure how well you could hide there. It's a high-traffic area, and worse yet, the traffic is because this is where the battlemasters are, so you can count on the people here killing you if they find you.

    A better option is hiding behind the buildings with the mage trainers. That's the Valley of Spirits on your Org map, if you're wondering. It's close to the back entrance, luckily. In fact, there is a particular rock you can hide behind which should conceal your name as well. I'll have to check when I get there again. I really must emphasize the use of camouflage potions if you use this method. For those of you who have never played Horde, fishing in this location puts you about twenty feet from the Horde port-in location (the location Horde spawn in if they teleport or use a portal to Org, including the Shat portal). While they will have next to no chance of spotting you visually, a hunter will immediately see you without some method of tracking negation.

    Fishing in Stormwind:

    Well, you only need one cast here, so this is super easy. You have two methods. First off, you can be in Stormwind without being in Stormwind, like was mentioned earlier. There's a patch to the southwest of the main wall leading into the city. I'd recommend this if you're not planning to then proceed to Ironforge.

    If you are heading to IF, there's another method which makes me really surprised that people ran through the main gates. You can actually get right into Stormwind without using the tram and without people or guards noticing you, even if there's a pack dueling outside (happens often). As you approach Stormwind, with Aspect of the Beast or a camouflage potion on, hug the mountains to the east of the wall. Keep right against them. Staying mounted, run into the little cleft of terrain between the east side of the wall and the mountain next to it. Start jumping while mounted, trying to run forward at the same time. If you do it right, you can jump your way _onto_ the wall, and you can stay mounted up there. While still mounted, you can do a running jump right into the water below. This will avoid all guard aggro and most players too.

    Once you're in the moat, swim to the far NE of it. There is a patch of land you can get up onto here. Most players will not see you here, and you can quickly get your cast. Now, heading to IF. You might be tempted to head straight south, but _do not_ do this. There is a NPC just south of the eastern side of the moat who will aggro a guard onto you instantly. Instead, you must swim under the bridge to the west side of the moat, careful to avoid the squid shaman NPC standing on a little island there. There is a single patrolling guard that comes down to the land on the west side of the moat, but you simply wait for them to pass, then get up on land and mount.

    There are already plenty of tips available on how to fish in IF, so I don't really have much new to add here. I'll talk about respawn locations if you die, though.

    If you are a class who can either stealth or successfully aggro drop against lvl 75 guards (either a rogue, druid, or arcane mage, since these guys will resist feign 95% of the time), try to keep on the side of the pool closest to the rogue trainer room. You will actually be able to spawn in there if you die, then. If you spawn right on the stairwell inside that building, between the top and bottom floor in the far corner, you will not be spotted by the NPC's. While these guys won't spawn guards onto you, they will put you into combat if they spot you, preventing you from drinking or stealthing.

    When you leave that building, you will probably aggro one guard on your way to the water if you don't stealth. This is where the aggro drop comes in.

    A second option, if you're close to the far wall of the cavern, is that you can spawn inside the buildings opposite the far wall of the cavern (in the interior ring of IF). This is not recommended without an aggro drop, as you will aggro at least two guards (much more if you haven't learned how to avoid most of them) on your way back, and you can't really even stealth past those with them at lvl 75.

  14. Marlburo, October 2008:

    As for fishing diplomat, right before the SW gates, I just fished in the "mote" just to the left of entrance. I beleive the Shamen trainer was directly north of me, was really easy. As for Old Ironjaw, the SW-Tram-Pond in North IF is definitley the way to go. I don't mind dying, because you always get a little closer everytime you die. That being said, I have yet to try and get him during non-peak hours so I havent been able to fish there long without being killed. HOWEVA a tip i found on another toon that works well is to go to the VERY back of the pond, and SIT and fish. You will be completely underwater and thus a little harder to see, but as always luck is a factor.

  15. Sauce, October 2008:

    As an Alliance person, I could offer a little more input into fishing in OG. I decided to fish up Old Crafty awhile ago before the patch, which was a good idea in hindsight given the fact that the guards got buffed tremendously. When you want to fish for long periods of time without interruption, I suggest the Valley of Honor, as there is a waterfall back there along with a nice rock to hide behind while casting your lure. The entire time that I was in OG (about 3 hours), I was never killed, not one time; I guess I got lucky because no one saw me go back there.

    Post patch, I snuck through the back entrance to the city and hid behind one of the buildings in the valley of spirits. It was a much more difficult task and I was camped for about an hour, but I only needed one fish so it was cool.

  16. Nivmizzet, November 2008:

    At the moment in my server, Lightbringer, it seems tension built up between the two factions and either lets anyone fish on their territory. I'll just wait it out till things cool down :P

  17. Picholine, November 2008:

    el wrote:

    To be honest, I thought the fish had been removed from the lava. Not to mention that it shouldn't be possible to jump down to the lava, or stand on an invisible ledge once you get there. Anyone know if it is possible to fish in "Old Ironforge" too?

    I finished 1000 Fish today in IF, and a couple hundred were in the lava in the center of IF. Out of sheer boredom, I tried multiple fishing spots in IF, and got the idea Old IF might be the key to OLD Ironjaw! Alas, when my other mage buddy turned up to sheep me in, we discovered that the previously overlooked "Dun Morogh" dueling spots (by bank and Military Ward) had been removed, we assume with patch 3.0.2. Major, major bummer. So yes - fish in lava. But no, I don't know any other way to get in Old IF.

    Also, first post on this site and i gotta say: i feel like i've come home. you're my people!

    EDIT: Any Horde anglers on Silvermoon that can make it past the angry kids to IF - let me know - I'll be glad to try to sheep you into Old IF.

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Baby Crocolisk Daily - Not restricted to SW

  1. Cornuthaum, April 2008:

    It is apparently possible to catch the Baby Crocolisk from The Forlorn Cavern in Ironforge.

    I was bored (4am and I couldn't sleep), so I decided to go level the fishing skill of my Hunter some more (who, through luck and divine providence had gotten my 2nd Weather-Beaten Fishing Hat from the Crocolisk daily quest a week before).

    To my surprise, the first catch I made in the Forlorn Cavern turned out to be the baby crocolisk, me not being aware that I had actually accepted the quest two days ago with my Hunter (but forgot to do it, thanks to frustration overwhelming me).

    However, I am aware of the old adage 'Screen or it didn't happen!'.

    http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/641/ifcrocoliskfullxy7.jpg - full screenshot, interface, timestamp and whatnot

    http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8402/ifcrocolisksmallur8.jpg - just the chatlog.

    Question: The question is whether all racial capitols are viable places to go croc'ing to (provided, of course, that they have fisheable plots of water) or not.

    I apologize beforehands should this information have come up earlier, but alas, it's 04.41 and I think my brain is currently oozing out of my left ear.

    edit: As luck would have it, the daily quest reset brought about another round of Baby Crocolisk anglin', and since I follow the school of 'I do it because I can', I went and tested if I could catch it from Ironforge once more.

    And yes, I could

    http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1648/wowscrnshot041508045954kw6.jpg - Same location, same fishing pole (Seth's Graphite Fishing Pole, no fishing line, fishing hat bait), different fishing skill (375 as opposed to 240-ish)

  2. el, April 2008:

    That's new to me. Thank you.

    The question of whether it can be found in other capitals is indeed an important one. And if it can be found in all capitals (at least those with fishable water), where else does it appear?

  3. Calabar, April 2008:

    I got the Crocs in the City quest today, so I decided to test this out. I grabbed the quest with my druid and headed over to Darnassus. He still needs some fishing skill, so I figured this was a good chance for him to get in some practice.

    Shadowfang pulled in 75 successful catches within Darnassus without a baby croc showing its sharp little teeth. I then headed over to Stormwind and caught my baby croc on the third cast. So whatever this glitch is, Darnassus does not seem to be a part of it.

  1. Balazar, April 2008:

    I'm not quite sure I'd count it out just yet - I've gone more than 150 catches in Stormwind before pulling the croc.

  2. Gwydaine, April 2008:

    Well I have 2 375 fishing nuts and did the quests on both one morning. then I thought I would try something. I got on my 70 Pally with fishing skill of only 157 got the quest and went to SW. I was surprised I could complete it on him as well. Of course this got me me started and now I have 2 fishing fools at 375 and one at 353 and getting closer to max

  3. Woolwort, May 2008:

    I got the same this past week. The best part of this is that not everyone knows it. The canals in SW are packed when this mission is available. The cave in IF is usually deserted.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v498/jedi550/croc.jpg

  4. Tsathoggua, June 2008:

    Next time this is the daily and I get the chance to do it, I'll head to the Undercity to see if it is possible there. Will let you know. If it IS possible in Undercity, I'll give Thunder Bluff a try as well. Will aim to not give up before 200 casts, each location.

    EDIT: Tried the Undercity [the least likely Horde city, since it has a few "exclusive" fishing catches, plus is not on the same continent as Orgrimmar]. Two hunred catches, a stack of sickly fish, three "old teamster's skulls," and no croc. Next will try Thunder Bluff [same continent, no "exclusive" catches].

    EDIT again: Thunder Bluff, 200 casts, again no croc. Then headed to Orgrimmar and caught it on the second cast [grins]. So far, it looks unlikely that the Horde can fish it up in multiple capitals, unlike the Alliance.

  5. ThunderfistCor, September 2008:

    Out of curiosity, I fished in the little pool right outside the Mystic Ward...sure enough, 4 or 5 casts in, I had a Baby Crocolisk on the line.
    http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/5309/wowscrnshot090508164830hg5.jpg

  6. Al, November 2008:

    Just got to 70 and am enjoying flight around the outlands. I got this quest today and, having read this, went and threw in a line in the wading pool in the mystic ward in IF, where I tend to hang out. Much to my surprise, I got one on my first cast. This was great for me since I still tend to get lost in Stormwind, being a dwarfish person. :)

  7. Cozmic, November 2008:

    I thought I had read something a few weeks back about this so I tried the daily in IF. First catch I got the baby crocolisk.

  8. Vicromano, November 2008:

    Yesterday was the Croc fishing quest on Kilrogg, I went right to IF and the very first cast was the baby crocolisk. ;o)

  9. Tezuix, November 2008:

    since patch 2.4.3 i think i was they made it so the daily fishing fish (except shrimps) were caught first catch and every catch if not looted

    so next time the quest comes up i will test all the capital cities (other than IF SW and org) (horde and allience)

  10. Paxe55, August 2011:

    Crocs in IF verified for ver. 4.2.0 - caught it today with 15 casts! 1 more croc pet in the bag ... I hope :)

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Easiest way for Horde to get Old IronJaw undesturbed

  1. Gandonar, November 2008:

    Having tried for Old Ironjaw a few times in Forlorn Cavern, but being ganked constantly,
    I remembered that Old Ironjaw can be fished in the lava too.

    So I rode in into the great forge, and dropped down into the lava, knowing i would die.
    However there is a hidden ledge between the wall and the rotating wheel, which is easy to find as a ghost. (from memory the coords are (50.4, 47.9 or 50.4, 49.7)
    basically when you swim underneath the wheel, you get stuck. thats how you know your at the ledge. now simply jump up on is as ghost, and come back to live.

    You need to set your camera distance to max. Look at your toon, directly from above, and then tilt you camera, so that the wheel is on you left side, and you can only see lava in your buttom right corner. that way you can just see you lure.

    Allies has to be lucky to see you, or know your there. but more importantly the 2 housr i spend there i got spotted twice, and both times the ally died trying to kill me, as they fell in the lava.

    I will try to add some screen shots, to this post

    Happy Fishing
    Gand

  2. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    I tried off and on for Old Iron jaw and finally sat down and fished for him one night for about an hour and nailed him. Very happy camper.

    Side note: With the release of LK its going to be a pain in the ass to get into Orgimar to fish for Old Crafty now but, with the quest thats available that makes you non PVP in Orgimar, i'll wait till that point, get the baby crockolisk quest and the other and camp out there till i get him.

    Good fishing!

  3. pinktoque, November 2008:

    BattleMoose wrote:

    I tried off and on for Old Iron jaw and finally sat down and fished for him one night for about an hour and nailed him. Very happy camper.
    Side note: With the release of LK its going to be a pain in the ass to get into Orgimar to fish for Old Crafty now but, with the quest thats available that makes you non PVP in Orgimar, i'll wait till that point, get the baby crockolisk quest and the other and camp out there till i get him.
    Good fishing!

    The lava trick does sound interesting and worth a try, Gandonar. Thanks for the info!

    BattleMoose (besides loving your name), can you tell me some more specifics about the quest that's available that will make you non-PvP in Orgrimmar? Are you Horde or Alliance? I know as a Horde when I'm in Org after 5 mins my PvP flag wears off (even though I am on a PvP server.)

    Did you mean Ironforge? Is there some way as a Horde that I can get into IF via quest where I won't be flagged PvP? This doesn't sound right so I'm assuming I don't quite understand what you mean :)

    I do my crocolisk quest for Org as often as possible -- I must have a baby croc!

  1. Tezuix, November 2008:

    setting your camera view to max is a bad idea... it is MUCH easier to go into first person (zoomed right in) so you can see the lava directly in front of you =) much easier

    Happy fishing

  2. Pespi, November 2008:

    I can confirm that this works a treat ^_^ Just make sure you can "reach" your body to ressurect otherwise it's a long run back from your home point.

  3. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    The quest is an alliance quest at level 74 in the Dragonblight zone of Northrend. It will eventually send you to Orgimmar on a diplomatic mission. The quest giver opens a portal to orgimmar for you. when you get there there are no players, just guards and they don't come after you. You are supposed to complete the quest and take the portal back. Just don't. every time you go to orgimmar it will be like you are trying to finish the quest. You can leave and come back though normal means just don't use the portal, fish till you get Old Crafty, then use the portal. If this is combined with the crockolisk glitch it should be super easy. Wowhead is down right now or i would tell you the name of the quest, I found it by searching there quest lines for that zone and level 74.

    Hope this helps!

  4. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    Name of quest is: Fate, up against your will.

  5. pinktoque, November 2008:

    Ugh, thank you for the info tho, BattleMoose! Unfortunately since I'm Horde this won't help :( I've already caught Old Crafty and now I'm trying to work on Ironjaw. I was hoping there was an equivalent quest for Horde that would send them into Ironforge on a diplomatic mission so that I could use the opportunity to fish for Ironjaw while there. Oh well! Thanks for the info, though!

  6. Blaquelight, November 2008:

    First time poster, long time reader :)

    104 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
    29 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    28 Raw Bristlewhisker Catfish
    1 17# Catfish
    1 Old Ironjaw

    Finally!

    Now if I can just win the darn Fishing Competition...

    Thanks to everyone for the great info about the invisible ledge in IF.

  7. delphinus87, March 2009:

    Just thought I should clear this post up a little, I found it a little hard to understand. What you do as Horde is run into Ironforge then into the Great Forge. You must jump into the NORTH-WEST lava pool, not the South-East (Map Link)(maybe I'm just noob, but I spent half an hour looking in the the SE one). You then swim to the large wheel, hugging the wall. When you enter the gap between the wheel and wall, start jumping. Keep walking forward until you stop taking damage, then you can start fishing. Just a side note, make sure you take off all titles when you start fishing. This just makes your red name less noticeable.

    DO NOT READ THIS UNTIL YOU ARE THERE, IT WILL BE CONFUSING
    If you face straight toward the lava, your lure tends to fall behind the wheel, causing you to turn your camera to try to spot it. There is a way to reduce these events. It's sorta confusing, but I'll try my best.
    If you look to the wall, you will see a pillar-looking drawing on it. Position yourself slightly behind this, then turn yourself slightly toward it (I'm a shadow priest, so this part's easy). The best angle to be is looking very slightly to the left of this pillar. If you do it right, all your casts will land in a place you can easily right click, you will, however, have to click cast a few times, as "Target is not in Line of Sight" will prevent you from casting. This is the best way I can describe it, sorry.

    337 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    125 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
    116 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    1 19 Pound Catfish
    1 17 Pound Catfish
    2 Lesser Healing Potion
    1 Lesser Mana Potion
    66 Fishing Levels Gained
    7 Hours
    -----------------------------------
    10 Achievement Points

    Yes, It was worth it :)

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