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This page summarises how to catch Old Ironjaw. For a more detailed guide, see Cross-Faction Fishing.

Old Ironjaw

About Old Ironjaw

  • "The legendary uncatchable fish of Ironforge. Just holding this scaly old monster makes you feel tough." Binds when caught.
  • Use: Equip: Held in off-hand. Gives +5 Stamina bonus.
  • Value: Vendor: 25s

Catching Old Ironjaw

Detailed mapping of hard to find areas is shown below.

Commentary: Rare catch from open water in Ironforge. Estimated at less than 1 in 1000 of catches. Binds to the angler when caught, so cannot be traded. It is possible to catch and equip this as low as level 5.

Detailed Guide: Cross-Faction Fishing - Guide to fishing in the opposing faction's capitals - Ironforge, Orgrimmar and Stormwind.

Related Achievement: Old Ironjaw: Catch Old Ironjaw. For strategies, read the guide to Cross-Faction Fishing.

History: 2.3: Old Ironjaw first caught.

Where to catch Old Ironjaw
WaterNo-junk skillAreasCatch Rate *Commonly caught fish
% of CatchSource
Open Water - Inland75Infrequent catch.

Detailed Mapping

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Below are anglers' comments about Old Ironjaw.

Old Ironjaw

  1. Schrodinger, September 2008:

    Well after being very lucky getting Magical Crawdad on my first pinchy (571 Furious crawdads I counted) and Old Crafty in under 50 casts.

    I thought how about getting Ironjaw.

    I finally got fishing buddy, and now on my 1050 cast.

    No luck yet =P

    How long did it take others?

  2. Schrodinger, September 2008:

    1500 casts and he is mine ^^

  3. Periwinkle93084, September 2008:

    I am horde and it took me 534 Catches(Fish/Items) to wrangle up Old Ironjaw.

    333 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    107 - Raw Bristle Water Catfish
    89 - Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    2 - 17 Pound Catfish
    1 - Bloated Mud Snapper
    1 - Spellbinder Cloak
    1 - Lesser Mana Potion

  1. Zahana, September 2008:

    500+ cast before I finally got him, now to sneak into org and get Crafty

  2. heraklen, September 2008:

    Well Im NOT lucky .

    Well above 1500+ casts now , have 3 green items , 4x17 Pound Catfish , 2x19Pound Catfish
    And more than 4x healing pots and manapots but STILL no Ironjaw

    Sneaked into Ironforge, died a couple of times getting to Forlorn cavern but no kills inside the cave , some nice allys have waved and fished with me and much of the fishing have been while they have raced their Brewfest ram's through the cave :-)

    I will not surrender , the elusive one will be mine!!

  3. Foffa, September 2008:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

  4. heraklen, September 2008:

    Foffa wrote:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

    First of all , nice hints here read the "Tips for Horde by Kabby" : http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34484

    You need to get to Ironforge , I read some hints taking the tram to ironforge was the best thing = NOT - I was killed a lot , don't go that way.

    I stormed through the main gate , jumped down to the lava and died 3 times while going to Forlorn cavern (thats the place with 3 dots on the map from wowhead).
    Make a macro that makes you "/sleep" that way you can look dead to some guys even while fishing.

    Good luck.

  5. Cozmic, September 2008:

    Just caught mine today. Very exciting, around 1000 catches.

  6. Bekkabakoo, September 2008:

    I got Old Ironjaw after ctaching 163 fish and other various junk. Other valuable items were:

    85 - Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    44 - Raw Bristle Water Catfish
    33- Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    1 - 17 Pound Catfish
    1 - Lesser Mana Potion

    I am a gnome so no fighting to get these, Old Crafty is next. I'll report on the number of ganks.

  7. Swoosh, September 2008:

    Foffa wrote:

    I have never been to Ironforge, since I'm horde, and I was wondering if someone could perhaps give me a few pointers on good locations to try to catch Mr Ironjaw in.
    Any tips/pointers appreciated!

    As a rogue, it's rather easy to sneak into Ironforge so can't really give you any other advice than bring greater invisibility potions :)

    Realize, however, that as soon as you enter IF, you'll be flagged for PvP. Even if you're playing on a PvE server, meaning that guards will attack you and Allies can attack you if they so wish.

    Regarding places to fish the only two I know of are:
    The pool in the Mystic Ward
    The Forlorn Caverns.

    You probably don't want to fish the Mystic Ward as that is a highly trafficed area, where as the most people that come through The Forlorn Caverns are people doing their Ram Racing. Now in the Forlorn Caverns, the water is not very deep until a fair bit out, so what I did was to hug the right wall, go out until just before I started swimming and do /sleep resulting in you being underwater without actually getting the breath bar. It'll look something like this when you fish:

    http://img440.imageshack.us/my.php?image=iffishexamplebs9.jpg

    Of course your name will be glaring red and sticking out like a sore thumb, but most don't see it, don't care or believe you're a corpse.

    What to do when you *do* get spotted then? I took the Ghandi approach. Seeing as I was very lucky getting Old Crafty in Orgrimmar, I figured that I'd prolly spend a lot of time in IF fishing for the ally equivalent. Therefore I'd rather not bring down the whole wrath of IF by killing peeps to the left and right. I was there for approx 1000 throws and got ganked a total of 8 times, where 3 of them was by pesky, badly geared combat rogue at the very end at 2 am in the morning. The rest of the allies just killled me once and moved on. Fair game. I didn't fight back as I didn't want it to turn into a fun thing to do for them.

    There was however a lvl 13 dwarf hunter who kept attacking me, and I killed his pet numerous times. And the lvl 16 lock who pretty much pooed her pants when she smacked me with her mace and realized she PvP enabled :) Fun stuff.

    Anyway, hope this comment helps you Foffa and good anglin' to ya :)

  8. Peppep, September 2008:

    Three days ago I happened upon this website, and it really got me pumped on fishing. I went 1-375 in 2 days, in search of rare goodies and whatnot. Me being horde, I figured the first thing I would do once I got the 375 grind out of the way was go to Ironforge and land Old Ironjaw.

    I sneaked in and made a dash for the Forlorn Cavern. With a full pot of coffee I was ready for hours of fishing fun. Much to my surprise...it only took me FOUR casts to capture my prize. One Raw Brilliant Smallfish. Two Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper. The next thing I yank out of the water is Old Ironjaw!

    I'm still "sleeping" in the water of Ironforge in shock. I can't think of a better way to start my fishing career. This site is a healthy nugget of information and the forums are great. Thanks to everyone for their contributions, I hope to be a regular here =)

  9. heraklen, September 2008:

    Finally I got him!!

    Around 1700 casts , 5 green items , 4x17 Pound Catfish , 2x19Pound Catfish , several healing and manapots before the elusive one showed up!

    Happy dance!

    Next stop , Old crafty! - stupid me have already got the guy once but i trashed him before I knew the value and found this site.

  10. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    I've just parked myself in the Cavern ready for a battle of wits against Old Ironjaw.

    Being Horde I'm tucked away at the back of the cave wearing just a Lucky Fishing had and a pair of boots ;)

    If like me, you've never been into Ironforge - here's what to do.

    1] Strip off (no sense if paying repair bills if you can't stealth)
    2] Head to Hammerfall and go via Wetlands to the Gates of Ironforge
    3] Mount up and head into the city (try not to run over the guards cause they might daze you - then you'll be toast)
    4] Once inside the main gate - follow the path to the left and then head Clockwise round the city.
    5] Try not to get stuck in the middle of the pond in Mystic Ward like I did - go round it
    6] When you're in the Forlorn Cavern the pool will be on your Right - hug the wall to the back.
    7] Catch Ironjaw!

    When you're being chased by the guards, just keep heading towards the Cavern, even if you're knocked off your mount. If you die, just rez as far away from your body as you can so you gain those few extra feet towards your goal.

    Hope that helps.

  11. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    Just finished for the night on 1700 casts. Still no Ironjaw :(

  12. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    Well, I just shy of 2500 casts now - Still no sign of Ironjaw.

    I'm at that point where I've come too far to quit - but it's really frustrating.

    Bejeweled has saved some sanity and having a group of about 8 Ally fishing with me was fun.

    I JUST WANT THE DAMN FISH!!!!!!

  13. kyosei, October 2008:

    Just another tip for those hordies out there looking to get to Ironforge. Easiest way would be just to teleport to Gnomeregan from Booty Bay. Once outside, just head north-east towards the center and you should hit the Gates of Ironforge ^^

  14. Foffa, October 2008:

    Just started chasing this guy, so went to IF and to my big surprise it took a little over 2hrs before i got ganked the first time.

    Here's what i've got thus far:

    288 Longjaw Mud Snapper
    92 Bristle Whisker Catfish
    67 Brilliant Smallfish
    2 17 Pound Catfish
    2 Lesser Healing
    2 Lesser Mana
    1 Bloated Mud Snapper

    *** EDIT ***

    Over 1000 catches now, and still no sight of Old Ironjaw.

    Although i got
    1 22 pound catfish
    1 Bloated Mud Snapper
    1 Pioneer Boots
    so far...

  15. NiceBloke, October 2008:

    OH YEEEEEEAH!

    Old Ironjaw dropped for me this afternoon. Just putting in a quick half hours fish during my lunch break.

    I don't have the final count - but I'm guessing just over 2500.

    Now for Mr Pinchy.......

  16. Jonaleth, October 2008:

    Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper : 1546
    Raw Brilliant Smallfish : 435
    Raw bristle Whisker Catfish : 551
    17 Pound Catfish : 8
    19 Pound Catfish : 3
    22 Pound Catfish : 2
    The 1 Ring : 1
    Lesser Mana potion : 6
    Lesser Healing Potion : 4
    Green item : 1

    Old Ironjaw : 1

    Total : 2555

  17. Shircon, October 2008:

    i bet im close to 500 or 600 catches so far....Is there a way to reset Fishing buddy stats?

Old Ironjaw in 42 min

  1. JTF195, May 2008:

    So, I decided to fish for Old Ironjaw today for basically the first time...

    I had casually done so before, but didn't really try very hard, and gave up to do other things after a few minutes.

    This time was different though, this time my plan was to stay committed until I caught this elusive beastie.

    42 minutes and 40 seconds later, I see green text, and to my amazement, I've done it... Old Ironjaw is mine!

    Total fish caught: 91

    Next up, Old Crafty!

  2. Slavaa, May 2008:

    I've got my Forsaken eyesockets set on Ol' Ironjaw as well, beware Alliance of Blade's Edge, the raid is coming for you.

    P.S. I think I'll leave Crafty for later, he's to crafty for me, and being in my faction's own city, it'd just be too easy.

  3. Petre, May 2008:

    I've caught both, and I have to admit that fishing in the orgrimmar will be much easier than fishing in Ironforge. In Orgrimmar you can fish up by the mage/priest trainers out of sight of passersby. Ironforge will be much more difficult. If you're horde, that is.

  1. Oberweiss, May 2008:

    For allies fishing in Orgrimmar, you may have an easier time fishing from in the little waterfall (Northwest corner) at the other pond in the Valley of Honor.

    The pond in the Valley of Spirits is where Horde is sent to by using a mage portal or the portal to Orgrimmar in Shattrath. There will be considerably less traffic in the Valley of Honor.

    Additionally, it may help to do your cross-faction city fishing while /sleeping. The lower profile may help hide you, and possibly help you avoid combat altogether if passersby think you're dead already.

    Does anyone have any similar recommendations for fishing in Ironforge?

  2. Spellbinder, May 2008:

    I just have to ask to be sure. While fishing after Old Ironjaw i have to fish inside of Ironforge right? Like in that cavern? Theres also a small pond outside mages where they portal. But only inside Ironforge it really says Ironforge on your minimap.

  3. Petre, May 2008:

    you can, oddly enough, catch him from the lava in the center of IF. You could probably make your way around one of the pillars there that would be hard for someone trying to kill you to get on. Alternatively, you could fish in the forlorn cavern, its unlikely that a lvl 70 would go back in there since there are only lowbie quests and rogue/warlock trainers. Don't even try to fish in the pool in the Mage district if you're horde. The portal to IF from shattrath drops right next to it.

  4. gremda, May 2008:

    Woot! Finally got the *%^*&!

    It only took 1078 catches.

    BTW, I don't think fishing in the Great Forge works anymore. I tried for fun a couple of days ago and I got the message about my cast not landing in fishable water.

    Now I have to work up my courage to go after Old Crafty...

  5. Slavaa, May 2008:

    Well, when I said "I've got my Forsaken eyesockets set on Ol' Ironjaw" I wasn't kidding, 46 successful casts later, Super Happy Dance!

    I fished at the very back of the Forlorn Cavern with a few Potions of water walking, all the Allies just rode right by (there was actually only 5 or so) without seeing me, I think about 3 of them were the same paladin but I'm not sure...

    I got killed a few times going in though, and being in the guild <Bringing Down Ironforge> didn't help the peace negotiations...

    My dad, on his draenei was beside me for some of it, 5 or so casts in, he gets Old Ironjaw, he wasn't quite as elated as I was, and I had to rez under his Elekk a few times, and all those night elves were jerks, but it was worth the time and effort.

    I even got "Guildy of the Day" just for getting in there alone.

    I may write a more "roleplay-y" version of this, then pass it in for extra english marks, keep your eyes open.

  6. JTF195, May 2008:

    Grats on catching him faster than me, apparently he isn't as rare as the droprate says he is.... or the droprate was raised... either way, I need to go catch Old Crafty when I get the time. :)

  7. Calabar, May 2008:

    I’ve been fishing in IF for each of the Crocolisks in the City quests every since it was pointed out on these forums that the crocs could be caught there. Granted, my server hasn’t gotten that quest very often, but with four characters doing that quest each time and some of those taking nearly 20 casts I’ve yet to see any off hand fish of any type. *shrugs* So I don’t think the drop rate is exactly high.

  8. Yohaun, May 2008:

    OK you guys have got me too interested in this. This Tauren is sneaking into Org. Ironjaw will be.....MINE!

  9. Slavaa, May 2008:

    Why would a tauren need to sneak into Org? and why would you be expecting to catch Old ironjaw there?

    (I am aware this is a typo, this has been a subtle hint)

  10. Syllis, May 2008:

    I went there last night, inspired by you guys talking of catching him.

    I strolled thru the main gate (well hauled butt actually) and avoided all but two of the guards on the way to the lake in the cavern. I doubt if anyone will ever find the two bodies on the lake bottom.

    I started fishing, and after about 80 or so, told myself I would go to 400 catches and then call it quit for the day. I really didn't expect to catch him the first trip.

    The 365th fish I caught was Old Ironjaw.

    And earlier in the day I visited the Darkmoon Faerie fortune teller. She told me, and I quote, "You will find something exciting tomorrow.

    I caught Old Ironjaw shortly after midnight.

  11. Petre, May 2008:

    My lowbie Paladin alt (lvl 26) caught Old Ironjaw in, no kidding, 5 casts in the mage pool. This after it took Petre over 600. Then I maxed her fishing while waiting on rez/rebuffs for our Vashj attempts. A pretty successful evening, even if Vashj didn't go down.

  12. Marlburo, May 2008:

    While i was toiling away in org trying for crafty (1,123 cast in two days with no luck yet) my guildie decided to sneak in to IF. I told her if she got it before I did (I was 500 casts in at that point) she was out of the guild.....I lied....but I hate her lol

  13. Oberweiss, September 2008:

    Well, I finally got off of my lazy, tauren butt and headed over to Ironforge for Old Ironjaw. I haven't caught him yet, but I'll share my method of getting situated, since it seemed to work pretty well.

    First of all, I don't like running into Ironforge directly. It's too crowded, and I tend to get chain-ganked. I mounted up and sped through Stormwind to Tinker Town where the tram is. If you get netted or anything happens, do whatever you can to stay mounted. Guards will de-aggro once you get far enough away. Once you get zoned into the tram, there tends to be less trouble, as there are few players and no guards.

    I stealth at this point. Take the tram to Ironforge, walk up to the instance portal to Ironforge and unstealth. Wait until the stealth cooldown is done. Zone into Ironforge and stealth immediately. Walk down the tram hallway and make a right. Avoid the fires and pair of guards at the start/end of each hallway. Continue until you see a fairly large pond on the left, in the Forlorn Cavern. This is the body of water where you'll fish.

    The alliance traffic will generally be coming from the opposite direction you came from, so your best option is to pick a spot along the back wall, in the opposite corner. You will not need water walking potions; the water is shallow enough to walk on the edge. You will probably want to fish while /sleeping to keep a lower profile. However, you may want to bring some Elixirs of Camouflage. It seems that the majority of alliance who found me were hunters and druids who had track humanoids on. With the change to the blips' coloring, they can spot the enemy faction quite a bit easier.

    Good luck, everyone!

    Edit: On my 943rd catch, I finally claimed him for my own. Phew!

  14. Spleen, September 2008:

    I've been trying to get Ironjaw on my warlock for the past three days; I've filled my bags twice so far and still no luck.. Not very fun whenever you get camped, either...

    But I have found a bit of a way to avoid getting camped if you're Horde going after Ironjaw. Stay at the back of the Forlorn Cavern, and you will avoid most confrontations this way. If by some bad luck you are spotted (most of the time it was a low level who saw me and called some 70s...), just keep fishing until you actually die. Come back and check to see if you're being camped. If not, continue to fish. If you're unlucky enough to be camped, go around into the Great Forge as a ghost and rez inside one of the buildings. Your corpse will disappear from where it was on the other side of the wall, and the alliance will have no idea where you are. Now you can either run back while you're alive, or you can die again inside the building, and run back and rez again inside the Cavern. If all went well, those pesky alliance will be gone.

  15. Gummo, September 2008:

    I have to admit, it was pitifully easy for my 63 gnome rogue to catch Old Crafty; I was behind the main building in Valley of Spirits, only got hassled by a 70 hunter (and I got away while he got stuck behind the building). I didn't keep track, but I only had a few stacks of fish when I caught him, so it was probably around 50 casts.

  16. Amnon, September 2008:

    After finally catching Old Crafty after several days, hours and thousands of catches, Old Ironjaw took me a measly 110 mud snapper, 48 smallfish, 54 catfish, a couple potions and one bloated snapper. Maybe a little over an hour. I just hit Ironforge at about 2:30 AM server time, went left at the main entrance, rode right to the Forlorn Cavern and by the time I got to the back I only had one guard on me. Fished while /sleeping so that I was largely invisible underwater and didn't have a single problem.

  17. Zahana, September 2008:

    Anyone have any tips as far as the easiest way into Orgrimmar? Is it easier to go threw the main gates or the side entrance?

Old Ironjaw, The Fishing Diplomat, and the Horde

  1. donquixote235, October 2008:

    Yesterday I found myself near Elwynn Forest, so I thought it would be a good time to pick up the Stormwind half of the Fishing Diplomat achievement.

    I've found that ever since they changed the entry guards to be lvl 75 rather than 65, sneaking in through the front door is a no-no; even with +stealth trinkets working overtime, they see right through it. My Vanish only has about a 50% chance of getting them off my back. Instead I've discovered that the best way to get into Stormwind is to come the back way through the new harbor around back. You can swim there from the Westfall/Elwynn border, and the guards are all lvl 65. Keep in mind that fishing from Stormwind Harbor does NOT count toward your Fishing Diplomat achievement; you have to apparently fish from inside the city walls for the achievement to take.

    I was able to stealth to the canals without much problem and grab my single catch. Since I was already in SW and the Deeprun Tram was not that far from me, I figured I'd take my chances at Old Ironjaw.

    Stealthing to the tram was not a problem; I think there was a single guard I had to avoid on the way. Once I got into the tram I opted to run the rails rather than take the tram, as I was still flagged and I didn't want to draw unnecessary attention to myself.

    I came out at Ironforge in Tinkertown, which is very close to the Forelorn Cavern. This was indeed much better than coming through the front door! This way I'd have to deal with at most 5 lvl 75 guards rather than the score or so that I'd have to deal with from the front entry. However 5 guards was about 5 more than I wanted to deal with!

    I mounted up and started to make a mad dash toward the cavern. Sure enough, the first pair of guards aggroed me. I then rode straight into the middle of the second pair, and picked up their aggro as well. I was almost to the cavern when they dismounted me, so I dropped a Vanish and prayed. I got the message "Leaving Combat" and breathed a sigh of relief.

    About one second later I encountered the fifth guard, whom I had not counted on. This guard pats the wall directly across from the cavern entrance. If I'd stuck to the south wall there's a very good chance I could have avoided him. I knew I was going to die but I figured I'd at least do it in a good position. So I ran for the water and managed to swim about halfway across the pool before I got killed.

    After that, it was easy. I did the necessary corpse-run, edged myself against the south wall, did a /sleep command to bring a low profile, and started fishing.

    At first I had the place entirely to myself. After a couple of minutes a Human Paladin showed up and I started to get worried; I really didn't want to fight anybody, I just wanted a nice pacifist fishing trip. After a few seconds he waved at me and proceeded to fish by my side. Awesome.

    Every couple of minutes another Alliance character would ride by the pool. Most didn't even see me, but some would stop and look at me for a few seconds and then ride on. I only had one character try to pick on me, a Draenei Shaman. My solution to this was to Vanish and then move to another spot. He tried to locate me again but with no luck, and eventually went away. I then unstealthed and proceeded to start fishing again, and the two people who'd showed up there to fish cheered as I reappeared. What a great thing: cameradery between the factions, and all because of fishing!

    Finally (after about 150-200 throws) I got my prize - Old Ironjaw. The two other fishermen cheered me again, I took a bow, and I hearthed the heck out of there.

    In a nutshell, it's very possible and not that hard, as long as you come in through the back door at Stormwind and take the Deeprun Tram. Most people will ignore you (at least they did me) as long as you stick to fishing and don't try to fight anybody. If you are attacked it may even be best to take the blows and not fight back so that when you return the people who witnessed the battle know that you're not interested in fighting, just fishing.

  2. Nosajje, October 2008:

    SW Harbor is definitely the way to go when it comes to getting into SW and IF. My wife and I swam through westfall up into the harbor, got our catch for Fishing Diplomat, then ran into stockades to get Bazil kill achievement, then ran out and around through the park/dwarven district etc into town and took tram to IF. The whole time we never saw a single alliance.

  3. Thander, October 2008:

    I think your mileage may vary quite bit with this one. Running through stormwind to get to the tram without stealth might take awhile especially on a busy server. Then, the allis in Ironforge might not be so nice. Last, you may get unlucky catching Ironjaw and have to do >1000 catches. (increases your chances to get ganked greatly).

  1. Kattora, October 2008:

    Well I'm glad your time fishing wasn't horrific. But unfortunately, on Malygos, the Alliance forbid me to fish in their little pond. I've tried everything. Funky outfits, not fighting, emoting (/beg, /cower, /hug etc)...they always kill me, over and over. I even went as far as to log onto an alliance character I use for their AH and asked them nicely to let me fish... and I'd get a 'rofl' or a 'lol' and that's about it.
    I don't know how I'm gonna get that fish, I'm a shaman, I have to suicide my way there. I die at least 2-3 times from guards before I get to my spot just to die from Alliance. >_<
    Sleeping doesn't work, they can easily see you aren't dead. The giant red name above your body is what gives you away. If I could get my name into the wall and then /sleep, I'd be safe... but I can't. Why can't Blizzard place some rocks back there or something? >_< Alliance have several places to hide in Orgrimmar. I've seen them, and each time I do /greet and /cheer and leave them alone.

    Ironjaw seems so impossible to get. :(
    I've got Old Crafty but obviously that is much easier to do as Horde.

  2. Jagent, October 2008:

    Started fishing tonight around 2:30am, just caught Old Ironjaw at about 3:50am

    Roughly 325 fish caught before him

  3. Griezz, October 2008:

    Actually, I earned the Stormwind ambassadorial acheivement... well, not easily, but in a different manner.

    After crossing into Elwynn, I snuck through the countryside until I approached Stormwind's gates. Finally, I ran through the gates as quickly as possible. Trying hard to ignore the aggro'd guards (although I did die once), I immediately moved down the ramp to the right.

    That's right. I did not go along the bridge into Stormwind proper. I made it into the city's moat.

    Now here's the thing: if you CAREFULLY search the moat, hugging the city-side edge of the moat as much as possible, you WILL find a very small part of the moat's wall where you can stand and the text above the minimap actually says "Stormwind". Once you find this sweet spot, it's just a matter of pulling in a single fish, and you've got the acheivement (or this portion of it, anyways).

  4. Chalmette, October 2008:

    I did the Stormwind portion of fishing diplomat simply by swimming up towards the harbor from Westfall for a bit until the map said I had zoned in to Stormwind, and then I found a little hill along the cliffs and fished. Got the achievement as easy as that.

  5. Whisper, October 2008:

    Thanks for the tips, I'm trying this tonight

  6. el, October 2008:

    I investigated this (on the beta server, because "live" Stormwind is plagued with zombies), and I'm inclined to agree it is easier to enter via the Harbor, since there are far fewer guards, and they are lower level. I've updated the guide with this and some other suggestions. Keep the strategies coming!

    It is possible that the Stormwind catch criteria has changed. When I checked it last week (again on beta realms) fishing immediately to the south of the southern-most pier in the Harbor, triggered the achievement.

  7. Upstate, October 2008:

    While the zombies are attacking Shattrath you can become a zombie and use the portal to get to opposing faction city. In both Orgrimmar and Ironforge it takes you right to the fishing area.

  8. will, October 2008:

    I wanted to post for you horde members out there.

    Link Text

    You will have to scroll down a bit to find the picture and info. Keep in mind that you will still get ganked but at a much lesser rate.

    Essentially you will be fishing on an invisible ledge in the lava. Finding the ledge initially is a pain but well worth it. I was able to fish for over an hour before my first visitor, who did not kill me.

    For a total of about three hours I fished there getting killed twice. The funny thing is the cost of one honorable kill is equal to a 3-4 gold repair bill. The two attackers that I did have also died in the lava.

    Hopefully this will help some of you get your achievement.

  9. Thander, October 2008:

    will wrote:

    The funny thing is the cost of one honorable kill is equal to a 3-4 gold repair bill.

    You shouldn't be losing durability from PvP deaths. Are you saying you fell in the lava or guards killed you?

  10. el, October 2008:

    I presume the repair bills are for those that attempt to attack you, but fall into the lava doing so.

    To be honest, I thought the fish had been removed from the lava. Not to mention that it shouldn't be possible to jump down to the lava, or stand on an invisible ledge once you get there. Anyone know if it is possible to fish in "Old Ironforge" too?

  11. donquixote235, October 2008:

    el wrote:

    It is possible that the Stormwind catch criteria has changed. When I checked it last week (again on beta realms) fishing immediately to the south of the southern-most pier in the Harbor, triggered the achievement.

    I tried fishing from that slope just south of the southern dock with no success about ten days ago, but it's possible that even though I was technically in Stormwind my cast was not. Since there are two posts on here that refute my experience, I'd have to lean toward those experiences.

  12. Illuthas, October 2008:

    I just caught my Old Ironjaw too,though i did the diplomat achievement long before it since i was gonna do MGT,anyway i tried it yesterday and then on my way there i found 2 other ppl heading to IF too to fish him up,we teamed up and through the main gate we got there,badly was that there were 10 allies there fishing,and there were always a few killing us.
    Then i spotted some ghost hordes wanting to fish there too,sadly my group gave up to try later but i teamed up with the guys that were dead there.
    Normally there were 4 ppl in that group,1 that wanted to fish but wasnt there yet,1 that was already fishing there and then 2 that were helping him.
    They kept on killing us so one that was helping logged on his ally,a lvl11 warlock.After a long conversasion we couldnt understand the one that was already fishing there left.30 sec later the helper came back so they started helping me,it seems the talk worked since they didnt attack me anymore so i could just fish and 100th catch i caught Old Ironjaw (saw it with FB).
    To all ppl that get attacked while trying there,make an ally and try to reason them.

  13. Micha, October 2008:

    I made my life a lot easier by grabbing Old Ironjaw pre-3.0, but it's still very possible now. There are a few things to note as general rules.

    First of all, if you're a hunter who PvP's regularly, you know how obvious an enemy player in your city is. People who PvP a lot are trained to spot that red dot on their minimap, even when they're not looking directly at it, and this will give you away more than anything else. That's why you need to keep Aspect of the Beast up if you're a hunter. Luckily, if you're not a hunter, there is something else you can get to counter tracking. Camouflage Potions. Pop one of these babies, and you can't be tracked. I strongly recommend getting a stack of these items before you make your attempt.

    Lastly, there is a gap between you respawning and you showing up on track, meaning that if you respawn and immediately hit beast or quaff a potion, hunters will never see you reappear. If they're stupid, they'll figure you spirit healed. If they're smart, they will hit /target yourname and realize you're still around, but they still won't know exactly where you are (though they might then send their pet and follow it). Most hunters are stupid, though.

    If you don't spend a lot of time in enemy cities, here is another tip. It's not only guards you have to watch for. It's quest NPC's too. If you get spotted by some of them, they will drop you right into combat, and they will instantly spawn guards that will aggro onto you. Others will aggro nearby guards. So your objective is to avoid both if possible.

    Lastly, here's one for rogues. If you spend a lot of time in enemy cities, you are aware that every city has one or more "rogue killer" guards. Prior to Wrath, these guys remained at 60, so they weren't a huge danger. With Wrath, Blizzard decided to bump them _way_ up. These guys will spot you from a mile away, even with max Master of Deception, and they will cut you to pieces rather quickly. You should stay the Hell away from them. The one in Ironforge won't be a problem because he wanders the front. The one in Stormwind can be a major downer if you're trying to stealth to the tram. With Wrath, there also seems to be a new behavior where they're instantly spawned if an immobile guards spots you while stealthed.

    I'm also going to add a few city-specific tips.

    First of all, fishing in Org:

    I'm Horde, but I've asked myself how Alliance could do this most easily. There is water in the Valley of Honor, but I'm not sure how well you could hide there. It's a high-traffic area, and worse yet, the traffic is because this is where the battlemasters are, so you can count on the people here killing you if they find you.

    A better option is hiding behind the buildings with the mage trainers. That's the Valley of Spirits on your Org map, if you're wondering. It's close to the back entrance, luckily. In fact, there is a particular rock you can hide behind which should conceal your name as well. I'll have to check when I get there again. I really must emphasize the use of camouflage potions if you use this method. For those of you who have never played Horde, fishing in this location puts you about twenty feet from the Horde port-in location (the location Horde spawn in if they teleport or use a portal to Org, including the Shat portal). While they will have next to no chance of spotting you visually, a hunter will immediately see you without some method of tracking negation.

    Fishing in Stormwind:

    Well, you only need one cast here, so this is super easy. You have two methods. First off, you can be in Stormwind without being in Stormwind, like was mentioned earlier. There's a patch to the southwest of the main wall leading into the city. I'd recommend this if you're not planning to then proceed to Ironforge.

    If you are heading to IF, there's another method which makes me really surprised that people ran through the main gates. You can actually get right into Stormwind without using the tram and without people or guards noticing you, even if there's a pack dueling outside (happens often). As you approach Stormwind, with Aspect of the Beast or a camouflage potion on, hug the mountains to the east of the wall. Keep right against them. Staying mounted, run into the little cleft of terrain between the east side of the wall and the mountain next to it. Start jumping while mounted, trying to run forward at the same time. If you do it right, you can jump your way _onto_ the wall, and you can stay mounted up there. While still mounted, you can do a running jump right into the water below. This will avoid all guard aggro and most players too.

    Once you're in the moat, swim to the far NE of it. There is a patch of land you can get up onto here. Most players will not see you here, and you can quickly get your cast. Now, heading to IF. You might be tempted to head straight south, but _do not_ do this. There is a NPC just south of the eastern side of the moat who will aggro a guard onto you instantly. Instead, you must swim under the bridge to the west side of the moat, careful to avoid the squid shaman NPC standing on a little island there. There is a single patrolling guard that comes down to the land on the west side of the moat, but you simply wait for them to pass, then get up on land and mount.

    There are already plenty of tips available on how to fish in IF, so I don't really have much new to add here. I'll talk about respawn locations if you die, though.

    If you are a class who can either stealth or successfully aggro drop against lvl 75 guards (either a rogue, druid, or arcane mage, since these guys will resist feign 95% of the time), try to keep on the side of the pool closest to the rogue trainer room. You will actually be able to spawn in there if you die, then. If you spawn right on the stairwell inside that building, between the top and bottom floor in the far corner, you will not be spotted by the NPC's. While these guys won't spawn guards onto you, they will put you into combat if they spot you, preventing you from drinking or stealthing.

    When you leave that building, you will probably aggro one guard on your way to the water if you don't stealth. This is where the aggro drop comes in.

    A second option, if you're close to the far wall of the cavern, is that you can spawn inside the buildings opposite the far wall of the cavern (in the interior ring of IF). This is not recommended without an aggro drop, as you will aggro at least two guards (much more if you haven't learned how to avoid most of them) on your way back, and you can't really even stealth past those with them at lvl 75.

  14. Marlburo, October 2008:

    As for fishing diplomat, right before the SW gates, I just fished in the "mote" just to the left of entrance. I beleive the Shamen trainer was directly north of me, was really easy. As for Old Ironjaw, the SW-Tram-Pond in North IF is definitley the way to go. I don't mind dying, because you always get a little closer everytime you die. That being said, I have yet to try and get him during non-peak hours so I havent been able to fish there long without being killed. HOWEVA a tip i found on another toon that works well is to go to the VERY back of the pond, and SIT and fish. You will be completely underwater and thus a little harder to see, but as always luck is a factor.

  15. Secretsauce, October 2008:

    As an Alliance person, I could offer a little more input into fishing in OG. I decided to fish up Old Crafty awhile ago before the patch, which was a good idea in hindsight given the fact that the guards got buffed tremendously. When you want to fish for long periods of time without interruption, I suggest the Valley of Honor, as there is a waterfall back there along with a nice rock to hide behind while casting your lure. The entire time that I was in OG (about 3 hours), I was never killed, not one time; I guess I got lucky because no one saw me go back there.

    Post patch, I snuck through the back entrance to the city and hid behind one of the buildings in the valley of spirits. It was a much more difficult task and I was camped for about an hour, but I only needed one fish so it was cool.

  16. Nivmizzet, November 2008:

    At the moment in my server, Lightbringer, it seems tension built up between the two factions and either lets anyone fish on their territory. I'll just wait it out till things cool down :P

  17. Picholine, November 2008:

    el wrote:

    To be honest, I thought the fish had been removed from the lava. Not to mention that it shouldn't be possible to jump down to the lava, or stand on an invisible ledge once you get there. Anyone know if it is possible to fish in "Old Ironforge" too?

    I finished 1000 Fish today in IF, and a couple hundred were in the lava in the center of IF. Out of sheer boredom, I tried multiple fishing spots in IF, and got the idea Old IF might be the key to OLD Ironjaw! Alas, when my other mage buddy turned up to sheep me in, we discovered that the previously overlooked "Dun Morogh" dueling spots (by bank and Military Ward) had been removed, we assume with patch 3.0.2. Major, major bummer. So yes - fish in lava. But no, I don't know any other way to get in Old IF.

    Also, first post on this site and i gotta say: i feel like i've come home. you're my people!

    EDIT: Any Horde anglers on Silvermoon that can make it past the angry kids to IF - let me know - I'll be glad to try to sheep you into Old IF.

Catching Ironjaw..

  1. CatBalou, August 2009:

    New to the board, but have been 'fishing' around here for a while ;)
    I've been trying for Ol' Ironjaw for a while now, up to nearly 600 casts and no luck. Is there a minimum of casts required to fish him up? or is it jut pot luck?

  2. Shircon, August 2009:

    Pot luck my friend....i was well over 1700 catches when i got him...got old crafty in less then 50 though...

  3. KHSebastian, August 2009:

    I put about 1000-1200 casts in either city. I got Ironjaw after about 1200, and I lost track of how many times I tried for Crafty, but it was at least 1000. I gave up, eventually, and then caught it during Crocs in the City

  1. swopa man, August 2009:

    iv'e been trying for a while to catch it. pot luck is alot to do with it i guess. My uncle caught it after 1500 casts or something. keep on fishin'

  2. aparchee, August 2009:

    Took me 730 odd casts on my main who has all fishing achievements, went to level fishing on my 34 alt last week or so got Ironjaw under fishing skill 200, random is random and sometimes randomly annoying as hell.

  3. CatBalou, August 2009:

    Thanks for you replies :)
    Just an extra comment... does it matter if you log in / log out and keep trying to fish him up? Or do you literally have do all those hundreds of casts in one sitting?

  4. CatBalou, August 2009:

    800, and counting ..... : /

  5. Shircon, August 2009:

    Doesnt matter,the server keeps track i think.My 1700 were over 2 1/2 days when i would come home from work so i dont think logging out makes a differance.

  6. CatBalou, August 2009:

    Ah thats good,
    Had this awful feeling that whenever I teleport out of ironforge for WG that I would have to start again!

    And what is 'crocs in the city'? Is the the ol man barlo thingy? what exactly does that hav to do with Ironjaw..?

  7. Shircon, August 2009:

    nothing to do with IronJaw,its one of the daileys from Shat,you can possibly pick up one of the croc mini-pets from the reward bag.

  8. kalamari, August 2009:

    I was wondering do I have to cast 500+ times in one sitting to catch him? I only have enough time ti maybe get like 250 or so casts before I have to do something else.

  9. Jan.aka.MrGolf, August 2009:

    no u dont have to do it in one sitting fishing adventure. I did it also in multiple times. but I was really glad when I finally caught it though. Had numerous casts also, dont know for sure how much, but it was a bunch. Just keep trying, u will catch it eventually.

    The one in Orgrimmar ( dont mind spelling) was pretty fast catch for me. had it within an hour or so. But it's all just luck.

    GL catching :)

  10. Pheardeath, August 2009:

    Caught on 8th casted I have proof I Screen shoted right as i got it.
    and i was only a lvl 8 fisher when i got him so its all random
    GL on getting more.

    im on the server Laughing Skull

    http://tinypic.com/r/33ze9zq/3

  11. Utopia, August 2009:

    I finally caught OI after over 4,5k casts, just 12 hours after my old man caught him on his very first cast in IF.... Oo

    Let's just say he wasn't flavour of the month until I caught mine......

  12. Lily, September 2009:

    I managed to fish up Ironjaw pretty quickly, not long after I picked up fishing with my main. I was sitting in IF fishing away and chatting to another player who was telling me he'd been there for 3 hours already, trying to catch the Ol' guy.

    About 50 casts in, I suddenly got him. I don't think my new friend was terribly pleased, as he left a few seconds later. Ooops!

  13. Jindar, September 2009:

    I caught Crafty on my 12th cast ever... I'm edging close to 200 casts with no Ironjaw, however.

  14. wyrmsmom, September 2009:

    Hey, Lily.

    Your main's not on Kilrogg is she? LOL! I had just that experience some time back with my dwarf, Al, who already had max fishing at the time. Grinding for Old Ironjaw, I was chatting with a 70 who was just starting to level her fishing and who caught Ironjaw right before my eyes.

    I was happy for the player, but just worn out with fishing that time. I DID get Ironjaw the next day ... and then caught him again two days later doing the crocks quest.

Easiest way for Horde to get Old IronJaw undesturbed

  1. Gandonar, November 2008:

    Having tried for Old Ironjaw a few times in Forlorn Cavern, but being ganked constantly,
    I remembered that Old Ironjaw can be fished in the lava too.

    So I rode in into the great forge, and dropped down into the lava, knowing i would die.
    However there is a hidden ledge between the wall and the rotating wheel, which is easy to find as a ghost. (from memory the coords are (50.4, 47.9 or 50.4, 49.7)
    basically when you swim underneath the wheel, you get stuck. thats how you know your at the ledge. now simply jump up on is as ghost, and come back to live.

    You need to set your camera distance to max. Look at your toon, directly from above, and then tilt you camera, so that the wheel is on you left side, and you can only see lava in your buttom right corner. that way you can just see you lure.

    Allies has to be lucky to see you, or know your there. but more importantly the 2 housr i spend there i got spotted twice, and both times the ally died trying to kill me, as they fell in the lava.

    I will try to add some screen shots, to this post

    Happy Fishing
    Gand

  2. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    I tried off and on for Old Iron jaw and finally sat down and fished for him one night for about an hour and nailed him. Very happy camper.

    Side note: With the release of LK its going to be a pain in the ass to get into Orgimar to fish for Old Crafty now but, with the quest thats available that makes you non PVP in Orgimar, i'll wait till that point, get the baby crockolisk quest and the other and camp out there till i get him.

    Good fishing!

  3. pinktoque, November 2008:

    BattleMoose wrote:

    I tried off and on for Old Iron jaw and finally sat down and fished for him one night for about an hour and nailed him. Very happy camper.
    Side note: With the release of LK its going to be a pain in the ass to get into Orgimar to fish for Old Crafty now but, with the quest thats available that makes you non PVP in Orgimar, i'll wait till that point, get the baby crockolisk quest and the other and camp out there till i get him.
    Good fishing!

    The lava trick does sound interesting and worth a try, Gandonar. Thanks for the info!

    BattleMoose (besides loving your name), can you tell me some more specifics about the quest that's available that will make you non-PvP in Orgrimmar? Are you Horde or Alliance? I know as a Horde when I'm in Org after 5 mins my PvP flag wears off (even though I am on a PvP server.)

    Did you mean Ironforge? Is there some way as a Horde that I can get into IF via quest where I won't be flagged PvP? This doesn't sound right so I'm assuming I don't quite understand what you mean :)

    I do my crocolisk quest for Org as often as possible -- I must have a baby croc!

  1. Tezuix, November 2008:

    setting your camera view to max is a bad idea... it is MUCH easier to go into first person (zoomed right in) so you can see the lava directly in front of you =) much easier

    Happy fishing

  2. Pespi, November 2008:

    I can confirm that this works a treat ^_^ Just make sure you can "reach" your body to ressurect otherwise it's a long run back from your home point.

  3. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    The quest is an alliance quest at level 74 in the Dragonblight zone of Northrend. It will eventually send you to Orgimmar on a diplomatic mission. The quest giver opens a portal to orgimmar for you. when you get there there are no players, just guards and they don't come after you. You are supposed to complete the quest and take the portal back. Just don't. every time you go to orgimmar it will be like you are trying to finish the quest. You can leave and come back though normal means just don't use the portal, fish till you get Old Crafty, then use the portal. If this is combined with the crockolisk glitch it should be super easy. Wowhead is down right now or i would tell you the name of the quest, I found it by searching there quest lines for that zone and level 74.

    Hope this helps!

  4. BattleMoose, November 2008:

    Name of quest is: Fate, up against your will.

  5. pinktoque, November 2008:

    Ugh, thank you for the info tho, BattleMoose! Unfortunately since I'm Horde this won't help :( I've already caught Old Crafty and now I'm trying to work on Ironjaw. I was hoping there was an equivalent quest for Horde that would send them into Ironforge on a diplomatic mission so that I could use the opportunity to fish for Ironjaw while there. Oh well! Thanks for the info, though!

  6. Blaquelight, November 2008:

    First time poster, long time reader :)

    104 Raw Longjaw Mudsnapper
    29 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    28 Raw Bristlewhisker Catfish
    1 17# Catfish
    1 Old Ironjaw

    Finally!

    Now if I can just win the darn Fishing Competition...

    Thanks to everyone for the great info about the invisible ledge in IF.

  7. delphinus87, March 2009:

    Just thought I should clear this post up a little, I found it a little hard to understand. What you do as Horde is run into Ironforge then into the Great Forge. You must jump into the NORTH-WEST lava pool, not the South-East (Map Link)(maybe I'm just noob, but I spent half an hour looking in the the SE one). You then swim to the large wheel, hugging the wall. When you enter the gap between the wheel and wall, start jumping. Keep walking forward until you stop taking damage, then you can start fishing. Just a side note, make sure you take off all titles when you start fishing. This just makes your red name less noticeable.

    DO NOT READ THIS UNTIL YOU ARE THERE, IT WILL BE CONFUSING
    If you face straight toward the lava, your lure tends to fall behind the wheel, causing you to turn your camera to try to spot it. There is a way to reduce these events. It's sorta confusing, but I'll try my best.
    If you look to the wall, you will see a pillar-looking drawing on it. Position yourself slightly behind this, then turn yourself slightly toward it (I'm a shadow priest, so this part's easy). The best angle to be is looking very slightly to the left of this pillar. If you do it right, all your casts will land in a place you can easily right click, you will, however, have to click cast a few times, as "Target is not in Line of Sight" will prevent you from casting. This is the best way I can describe it, sorry.

    337 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    125 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
    116 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    1 19 Pound Catfish
    1 17 Pound Catfish
    2 Lesser Healing Potion
    1 Lesser Mana Potion
    66 Fishing Levels Gained
    7 Hours
    -----------------------------------
    10 Achievement Points

    Yes, It was worth it :)

Old Ironjaw, A Living Legend

  1. Slavaa, May 2008:

    I hope you like this story on the origins of Old Ironjaw, and Slavaa's mad anglin' skills

    Well, after finding, anglin' and catching Old Ironjaw, I downed a few celeberatory beersh *hic*, but you may be wondering: how did I come to get in there, well, it's a story that needs to be told, so tell I shall.

    There I was, standing in the orcish city of Orgrimmar one day, thinking “Well, I’ve helped Old man Barlo, the Shattered Sun Offensive, The Scyers, and the Frostwolves today, killed all sorts of monsters and humans alike, what else is there to do?”so I found myself walking, blinking and teleporting toward the tavern, where there are always adventures to be found.

    Fully expecting to hear of monsters raising the countryside, demons killing the soldiers, and Alliance plans of attack, I entered the Tavern.

    I, Slavaa of the Shattered Sun, am very welcome anywhere I go, despite the fact I am living impaired, so I walk up to the barkeep and ask “Are there any new tales being told, and may I have pint to whet my rotting whistle?” “Of course there are Slavaa, but first, and how will you be paying today?” Fulling knowing what these people want I respond “In large amounts, Beer Is On The House!” Which met a resounding cheer from the rest of the bar. “So, of those tales of which you spoke, which is the most heroic and dangerous?” The bartender then spoke to me, of a tale, of a journey, of a legend unlike any of which I had previously heard, this was not one of sword, shield or spell, not primarily anyway, it was of a fish. A fish they call “Old Ironjaw”.

    “Old Ironjaw was born in Stillwater lake in Tirisfal Glades on the continent of Lordaeron, and there he lived for many decades. Until one day, when the Plague struck. A Dwarf, of Blump family descent, who was staying in the area decided to catch one of his final fish, as even in the air he could feel the horrors of the Plague seeking him, he caught one fish. The fish’s jaw was huge and muscular, as tough as iron, and when this dwarf saw that fish, which he named Ironjaw, it gave him the tenacity to carry on.

    Through Trisifal he ran, through Silverpine and through Hillsbrad, through Arathi and the Wetlands, and through Loch Modan, and after the days he spent running, spanning two continents and many territories, he finally arrived at Ironforge in Dun Morogh, he said “I must sho’ this fish ta’ me family in te’ Forlorn Caverns, they’ll be so proud’a me. It’ll be our pride for generations ta’ come.”

    The Blump family was elated to see this fish, it’s massive jaw and power would one day become a family crest. “An’ you lil’ Gubba, I want ye ta’ ‘ave me fishing pole, with which I caught dis’ mighty fish. I hope it gives ye’ good luck.”

    Now of course this fish was an amazing sight, and even though the only time it hit water since it’s catch was the precipitation of the wedlands it was still breathing, the family decided to release it into the pool across from their house, they carved a notch in the Blump Family Fishing Pole for each time it was caught and released again by them, after a rather long time of fishing (their hobby is fishing) only three times was he caught again.

    The family no long remains in Ironforge, but their fish does. And he has taken quite a liking to the area.”
    “Wow” I respond, intrigued. The bartender went on to say that no one allied with orcs had ever laid eyes upon this fish, and from the military precision and defenses of Ironforge makes it seem as if none ever will.

    I am not the type to back down from a challenge, doctor says “Slavaa, I would advise against you seeing your girlfriend again, she ... she has the Undead Plague.” I respond “That sounds like a challenge!” and rush in, but that’s another story for another time. This challenge was unlike any I had ever faced, if I attracted too much attention the army could be called in, and then that would be the end of me. Nonetheless, I back down from no challenge. Ever. Quickly pulling out my map, I deduce the quickest path would be from the Kargath going North, and so I set out.

    With a few words of power, a colossal quantity of concentration and a *pop* I arrive in the Undercity and ride my undead horse the taxi wyvern service with my favourite book: “The Bass and You” reading up the best fish catching stratagems.

    A few chapters later I find myself in a barren wasteland, which is why I brought my map.

    My horse needs no food or rest, it being undead like myself, and therefore I make record time to fifty foot gates of this ultra fortified city. Ironforge.

    The first bit goes rather easily, all the busy bodies go about trading and banking. They don’t even notice me under my heavy robe. I even make my way past a few of the drunker guards. Unfortunatly they sobered up by the time I passed the Mystic Ward, and being extremely well trained, they saw through my clever disguise. This when badly from here, luckily none of the experienced adventurers make their way down here, so the two guards were quickly disposed of and hid under a nearby fruit stand (that gnome’s in for a surprise).

    Using my stealth skill learned from my thieving friend Croaker, I made my way to the Forlorn Cavern, I could nearly smell the massively jawed aquatic creature, he is in for a wake up call.

    Much to my dismay, the hydrated area of the cavern is very near to the urban area, all those angry residents would tear me limb from limb. In blind hope I search my pack for something that would help in this situation, and I just happen to find 2 potions of water walking I received from Old man Barlo after I helped him catch the fish that was stealing his bait.

    17 minutes later, my fishing rod is bending, the line is stretching (I recently replaced it with a spun Truesilver line) and all I’ve pulled up have been Mudsnappers and Smallfish. 19 minutes, still no Ironjaw, and I can feel my feet slipping through the water as the last potion wears off. My feet have almost fallen through, I only have time to catch one last fish. I can only hope. One foot’s fallen through, but this fish is fighting long and hard. If I fall in the water all hope is lost, but this fish is almost here. I pull it up just as I fall under, I see it. But it’s just an inch too far away, conjuring my arcane powers I hit it with a Slow, it’s not going anywhere.

    But just as I believe it shall be mine, the splashing alerts the guards. It’s no use having a prized fish if it must be buried with me. I must cast like I have never cast before. Thinking quickly I begin to cast a teleport spell to the Undercity, but I combine it with my knowledge of area of effect spells... 5... 4... 3... 2... *pop*

    *Sploosh* And with a square decaliter of water and a few flopping fish I successfully teleport to the Undercity, among the fish: Old Ironjaw. This legend of anglin’ history is now mine. Only now do I remember, I wanted to go to Orgrimmar...

    I told you I'd make a Lore/Roleplaying Story of my Old Ironjaw catch

    Tell me if you like it/think it's just a wall of text

  2. Yohaun, May 2008:

    I like it! I need to catch Ironjaw myself so thanks for the "tips" ;)

  3. Spellbinder, May 2008:

    Awsome, i was there right beside you all the way ;)

  1. Pierree, May 2008:

    I loved it, thanks for the nice shot of literature into my otherwise uneventful day.

  2. Slavaa, May 2008:

    Thank you for your words of kindness, Maybe i'll post this on the official forums...

  3. Pierree, May 2008:

    i would say go for it, but probably in an rp section, normal o boards scare me.

  4. Slavaa, May 2008:

    Well, It's on the Roleplaying forums now... would someone please go give it a bump... same title, but it might be on the second page now...

A brief overview of getting to Salty

  1. Laizhensil, December 2008:

    Just the other night, I finally completed all the requirements to be Salty and received my title. It took a lot of forum scouring and a lot of reading to gather the right information, so I figured I'd post a short log of all that I did and how I did it, to help others on their way.

    Of course, I would attribute almost all of my success to El, whose site is just the definitive source of fishing information for WoW players, bar none. Thanks El!

    I'll go through the achievements briefly, one at a time, and tell how I finished them.

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    Northrend Angler - Fish 10 nodes in Northrend

    (copied from Thottbot, credit to kitkibbles)

    *Fangtooth Herring* - fresh waters in Howling Fjord

    *Musselback Sculpin* fresh water in Borean Tundra (I got mine in Lake Hum'uya located directly south east of Amber ledge).

    *Borean Man O' War* Off the coast in Borean Tundra (I got mine at the shrine of scales located just off the southwest coast of riplash strand).

    *Imperial Manta Ray* off the coast in Borean Tundra (I got mine at riplash strand but there are tons in dragonblight at Moa'ki Harbor as well).

    *Nettlefish* freshwater in Sholazar Basin... these fish are like fleas and can be found in all lakes and rivers there. I got mine in the seabreach flow just east of nesingwary base camp.

    *Dragonfin Angelfish* Lake Indu'le just north of moa'ki harbor in dragonblight. I didn't see them anywhere else but they could be in other freshwater locations too of course.

    *Glassfin Minnow* freshwater in crystalsong forest. They were everywhere in the river that runs through the area.

    *Glacial Salmon* freshwater in Grizzly Hills. I got mine in the river located just south of Zeb'halak.

    *Deep Sea Monsterbelly* salt water off the icebergs south of Unu'pe in the frozen sea, Borean tundra.

    *Moonglow Cuttlefish* salt water off the icebergs south of Unu'pe in the frozen sea, Borean tundra.

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    Master Angler of Stranglethorn

    Ah, the dreaded fishing contest. This was my last achievement for Salty. I won after 2 serious attempts. This is exactly what I did-

    - Hearthstone to Booty Bay Inn
    - I fished the area directly south of Grom'gol. There is a water fall which separates the land. I started on the side furthest from Grom'gol. I fished exclusively in the first 6 nodes and only the first 6 nodes. When there were no nodes (which only happened once) I sat and waited for them to reappear.
    - I used water walking potions to fish the nodes which were across the waterfall break in the coast.
    - I caught 7 Oily Blackmouths, 1 Stranglekelp and 1 Firefin and still won the competition.
    - I won in exactly 20 minutes and 41 seconds.
    - The area only had 3-5 other fishermen when I was there. When there were 2 people at a node, I'd skip it and move to the next node, always staying between my 6 designated nodes. If there was not a fishing node with less than 2 people, I would run back and forth waiting for the next one to spawn.
    - I used a macro to track the amount of Tastyfish I had. It was this...

    #showtooltip Speckled Tastyfish

    - The first time I tried, I caught 9 Oily Blackmouths and was quite angry at Blizzard for implementing a RNG in an already very luck driven competition. I lost at 19m 55s, with 31 fish. :)
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    The One That Didn't Get Away

    - I fished in Thunderbull Lake in Mulgore for the 15 pound Mudfish. It took me 1310 casts. I thought about going for the Herring, but it seemed like a hassle, because I wasn't sure if it dropped only from the Herring nodes or from the actual open sea.
    - I parked myself in front of the TV at home, picked out three good movies, and started fishing.
    - I set my cast to hotkey 1.
    - I would press 1, place the mouse icon over the bobber, then proceed to watch my show. With the sound turned up, and no one else fishing, I could just reach down instinctively and right-click to pick up the fish. I would then repeat the process.
    - I had Auto-Loot on and didn't worry about casting too fast, because the 15 pound mudfish is NOT BoP, so it does not require you to accept it.

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    Mr. Pinchy

    - I do the daily fishing quest in Terrokar anyway, so whenever I would do that, I would empty out all the Highland Mixed Schools in the area. This means the lake by the alliance town, the lake by the horde town, and the bigger lake up in Skettis. 3-5 nodes in both the Horde and Alliance rivers, and 7-10 in the Skettis area.
    - They spawn rather slow, so after cleaning out the nodes I would find something else to do for 2 hours then come back.
    - I caught Mr. Pinchy the first time in just 31 casts (very luck, I know). But this resulted in 2 Benevolent Mr. Pinchys and 1 Pinchy Blessing, so I had to do it again.
    - I caught him again after about 600 casts. The first prize was a gift-box, and the second was the pet.
    - I made sure that I paid attention while fishing, because he is BoP, so you need to click accept.

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    I smell a Giant Rat

    - In the underbelly of the sewer, on the pier next to the Inn, is where I fished for this guy.
    - It took me about 1000 casts.
    - He is BoP too, so watch out and don't go too fast.
    - My best advice for not burning yourself out on fishing is to start chatting in /1 or /2 or in /g.

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    Deadliest Catch

    - I solo'd this as a 74 Frost Mage.
    - First, you need to be in a raid group, so have a friend or stranger group with you, start a raid group, then head in on your own.
    - Advise the person you are grouped with that he or she will be unable to complete any non-raid quests while you are doing this. (Took us forever to figure out why my girlfriend could not pick up mushrooms for the cooking daily in Dalaran hehe)
    - You must enter ZG twice- First to pick up the jugs of ale which are at Nat Pagle's fishing site on the north side of the big lake which Hakkar is in the middle of.
    - Then you must take them to Nat Pagle in Dustwallow Marsh and he'll give you what you need to fish up this guy.
    - Then you need to fish the mudskunk nodes which are in the exact same place in ZG. (I fished the mudskunks the first time I went so I could just go straight to the boss the second time)
    - Once you have the mudskunks and the lure from Nat Pagle, you can go to Nat Pagle's fishing site in ZG and fish up the boss and get the achievement.
    - Fishing up the boss is all you need to do. No need to try to solo him ;)
    - Once I fished him up, I Invisibilitied and ran out. Done.

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    The Scavenger

    (credit to jamras on thottbot)

    Steam Pump Flotsam: Zangarmarsh, all over the lakes
    Schooner Wreckage: Southshore, near dock and along coast line
    Floating Wreckage: Tanaris, coast
    Bloodsail Wreckage: STV, coast south of Grom'Gol
    Waterlogged Wreckage: STV, Lake Nazferiti and along river

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    The Coin Master

    This is accomplished by fishing the entire collection of coins out of the tiny fountain in Dalaran.

    - Copper is the easiest to catch, Silver second and Gold hardest.
    - Only Gold coins can be thrown back into the pool to increase your chances of getting more coins.
    - The buff from tossing gold coins lasts only 2 minutes, which seems to go by VERY quickly. Make sure you don't mis-click or go afk while you have the buff.
    - I finished Silver before Copper, then Gold last. The last Gold coin I needed was Thrall's.
    - There is a fishing vendor right next to the fountain who has lures for you to use.
    - You CAN fish the same coin out of the fountain more than once. In fact, I had a stack of about 10 Danath's copper coin when I was done. I sold the dupes to the vendor.
    - I had many instances of "Your cast didn't land in fishable water".
    - It took approximately 500 casts to acquire the whole collection. This can obviously be reduced or increased by the random number generator, but you can help yourself by using Gold Coins effectively.

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    Outland Angler

    Not much to tell here, it's pretty easy.

    (credit to rozlyn on Thottbot)

    Brackish Mixed School - Terokkar and Zangarmarsh
    Bluefish School - Nagrand
    Mudfish School - Nagrand
    School of Darter - Terokkar Forest
    Highland Mixed School - Skettis
    Sporefish School - Zangarmarsh

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    Old Man Barlowned

    Very simple-

    There is a daily fishing quest in Terrokar. Each day the fishing quest is randomly chooses one of five fishing quests for you to do. Keep doing this quest every day and eventually you will get all 5.

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    The Lurker Above

    Fish up the Lurker Below in Serpentshrine Cavern

    - This is definitely soloable.
    - I followed this guide:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2GPZwpkwPg

    Credit to TheZemalf (YouTube)

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    Catch 1000 Fish

    - Pretty straight forward.
    - With the time you'll spend fishing for coins, the rat and The one that didn't get away, you will MORE than hit this. (It took me about 7500 fish to finish the achievement panel for fishing)
    - Don't go out of your way to accomplish this, just let it happen on it's own while doing other achievements.

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    The Old Gnome in the Sea

    - Another fishing achievement which will come automatically by doing other achievements.

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    Fish Don't Leave Footprints

    Acquire the Fish Tracking ability

    - By fishing out of "wreckage" nodes, you will often get boxes of level relevant profession loot. (Light Leather, Bolts of Mageweave, etc.)
    - In these boxes there is a small chance to get the book which teaches you this ability.
    - Run along the western coast of Stranglethorn Vale and you should at least find one or two wreckage nodes. Fish these until you get crates.
    - Wreckage nodes are easy to spot, because they're not your normal, swirling water nodes. They actually have boxes and pieces of lumber floating in them.

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    And that's how I got to Salty :)

    I hope this has been helpful in answering some of those ambiguous questions one runs into after forum crawling for the easiest way to finish an achievement.

    On a side note-

    I did Old Ironjaw and Old Crafty as well.

    - Old Craft was very easy. Simply get the Baby Crocolisk quest and go to Orgrimmar. When the loot box comes up, ignore it and keep fishing. After a dozen or so casts, you'll get Old Crafty.

    - Old Ironjaw was the hardest fishing achievement I've done, to date. I play Horde, so I had to hide out in the Forlorn Cavern for 4000 casts. I got attacked and camped at least a dozen times. If you are Horde and you are going for Old Ironjaw, I'll give you these pointers:

    Do not wear any items with Durability. Rings and Trinkets and Necklaces are okay, but don't destroy your armor by getting killed a bunch of times.

    First, go to the back of the Forlorn Cavern. If you get attacked, move to the Lava in the middle of Ironforge (just behind the northernmost cog on the bridge in the exact middle of IF). You'll get attacked in both places, but at least you can escape some camping.

    Do NOT fight back. This will only aggravate the Alliance more, and they'll end up camping your body. You are much less fun to antagonize if all you do is stand still and die. Plus, if you attack any NPCs, there will be a yellow message broadcast to all of Ironforge alerting them to your presence, so don't rock the boat.

    It helps to fish during off hours (early morning and midday).

    Make SURE you watch your screen and don't habituate yourself to casting over and over. Old Ironjaw is BoP, so you MUST accept him once the window pops up, and you don't want to have to do another 5000 casts because you were fishing too fast.

  2. Yoco, December 2008:

    Very nice overview! Thanks!

  3. Illuthas, December 2008:

    Very nice,though Giant Sewer rat isnt in the achievement :p

  1. Dagnie, December 2008:

    Congratulations, and thank you for writing all this out! Very nice post combining all the info that is scattered over multiple websites :)

  2. sendmejunk77, December 2008:

    I can report that the bug still works for fishing up Old Crafty as of 12/21/08. I used it in combination with the Wraith Gate free pass to Org. I justified it in that I'd fished around 400 times, w/o the baby crockolisk quest before giving this a shot. If you dont have the baby crock quest, you can leave Org and wait a few days until the daily quest pops up. You'll have to run into Org but only the first few guards will try to attack. Once inside they go back to leaving you alone, you can fish up your crock, old crafty, and finish the epic quest. Nice!

  3. Untoucheable, December 2008:

    Old Crafty
    I would also like to add that I came across tis quest for alliance (even though im horde) that will allow alliance to easily get into orgrimmar without hassle of guards or players.

    http://www.wowhead.com/?quest=13369

    This quest ports you to orgrimmar under amnesty to talk to thrall, its basically a separate orgrimmar so no players to worry about. Go there with this quest and the crocs in the city daily and you got yourself an easy 10 achievement points.

  4. Zemalf, December 2008:

    Very nice guide for those going for Salty (got mine yesterday, finishing with One That Didn't Get Away). And thanks for the credit for my The Lurker Above vid :)

Catching Old Ironjaw as Horde

  1. sashid, March 2008:

    Many kudos for this awesome site.

    I wonder if anyone caught Old Ironjaw as a Horde character? Has anyone suggestions on how to keep a low profile in IF while fishing in peace?

  2. Gihelle, March 2008:

    Not many people pass through Forlorn Cavern.

    People prefer to level fishing in Stormwind and Warlocks prefer to spec in Ironforge... so I guess you can maintain a low profile there quite easily.

    The only problem would be trying to enter Ironforge. Unlike Orgrimmar, IF has only one entrance...

  3. sashid, March 2008:

    Hmm, maybe an Orb of deception will help. ^^
    There are not many uses for this item anyway.

  1. Oberweiss, March 2008:

    As horde, I haven't fished in Ironforge yet, but I do plan to at some point.

    I'd think it would be a good idea to fish while /sleeping to keep a lower profile. Your name will still be red, but at least your body won't give you away. Maybe some lazy allies will think you're already dead. :)

    Also, it's a lot easier to enter Ironforge through the Deeprun Tram. I'd recommend mounting up and running through Stormwind (which is surprisingly easy), and then taking the tram to Ironforge.

  2. gsp8181, July 2008:

    Now, I'm not saying you need to fish for 30 years or catch every fish in the sea to become a master fisherman. I reckon you just need to be determined - determined enough to sit on your duff for hours at a time, doin' nothin'.

  3. Syllis, July 2008:

    Yes.

    I also recommend Forlorn Cavern, I was able to fish there unmolested.

    I hauled past the guards at the gate and straight for the Caverns. Two followed me, but I was able to "convince" them to leave. Actually, I don't think anyone will find their bodies. There were also a couple of low level Alliance who came over for a look, but no one messed with me.

    I caught about 400 fish before I got Old Ironjaw.

Elusive IronJaw

  1. Aaeros, May 2009:

    557 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper
    177 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish
    124 Raw Brilliant Smallfish
    5 17lbs Catfish
    1 19lbs Catfish
    1 22lbs Catfish

    0 IronJaw

  2. Dalgul, May 2009:

    I must say that old ironjaw has been quite elusive for me too.I don't have any data on him but being on horde side on a pvp server it is quite frustrating.back when I really wanted him I would spend hours fishing,dying and ressing etc.I have lost all ambition by now but I wish anyone trying for him the best of luck

  3. Leny, May 2009:

    It took me over 1k catches to get him for me, so keep trying

  1. jilleea, June 2009:

    I have caught him on two toons of mine both of whom had low level fishing (below 200) on one it took a couple hours on the other not even an hour.....i have heard that he has a respawn rate of like 4 hours not sure if thats true or not but it would be nice to know his respawn rate :)

  2. LinkyKeram, June 2009:

    I remember when i was fishing for this big one, and GOD, it was anoying. Not cus it took me around 1200 catches, (i got the 1000 achivement that day.. heh.. ) but because i was fishing together whit 10 pepol, and all of them got the achivement and ran off before me. as if that was not enough, 3-4 other pepol also just came running by and thought "Meh, il give it a try", and my litle bro also tried. His fishing was on around. 1-10? and he got it in 2 CATCHES! And i had stood there fishing for 10 hours if i remember right. So as you see, altho you havent got it yet, (And you will, i just know it.) atleast you didnt have to see 15 other pepol getting it before you at the same day.

    GL getting it! LK~

  3. Azaguth, June 2009:

    There is no "respawn timer". Items obtained from fishing don't "spawn", they are simply granted based on your roll on the loot table for that particular location.

    In theory, you could catch Ironjaw two casts in a row, although the likelihood of that happening is 1 in a million (literally, 1 in a thousand, multiplied by itself).

Old Ironjaw

  1. Marlburo, November 2008:

    Snuck into Stromwind, took the tram, then headed north in Ironforge to The Forlorn Cavern. I am an Orc Rogue so not only could I sneak in fairly easily, but I could also talk to Night Elf Rogues (ally) by speaking in Titan, These are my stats:

    Longjaw Mud Snapper: 1443 (59.8%)
    Bristle Whisker Catfish: 513 (21.4%)
    Brilliant Smallfish: 424 (17.7%)
    17 Pound Catfish: 6 (.3%)
    Lesser Healing Potion: 5 (.2%)
    Lesser Mana Potioon: 4 (.2%)
    22 Pound Catfish: 4 (.2%)
    19 Pound Catfish: 3 (.1%)
    Heavy Shortbow: 1 (0.0%)
    Bloated Mud Snapper: 1 (0.0%)
    OLD IRONJAW: 1 (0.0%)
    Cadet Bracers: 1 (0.0%)

    Total for Ironjaw: 2406 casts for Ironjaw

  2. Mr. fishy, November 2008:

    nice work!! espically for horde
    but how did u get Lesser Healing Potion and Lesser Mana Potion from a crate or just got it?

  3. Marlburo, November 2008:

    no crates, the mana pots/items just dropped.

  1. Mushroom, November 2008:

    2038 catches in the lava of IF, 6 17#s and 7 19#s, no freaking Ironjaw!

  2. bohemian0607, November 2008:

    I am very sad, yesterday I had 39 tastyfish when they announced the winner, and then I went to IF and was autolooting and lost Old Ironjaw. I didn't think pressing shift would make you skip the popup box to confirm, but now I know better.

    However, I wanted to share with you fellow Horde that you can glitch the guards out in Ironforge by running into the cranny between the wall and the westermost building in the Forlorn Cavern.
    If you are running into the Forlorn Cavern through the Mystic Ward, turn left right as you enter and there is a little nook. Jump up onto the ledge there and the guards will glitch and leave shortly thereafter.
    Unfortunately, this will not save you from any enemy Alliance (they can kill you even if you're on the ledge), but it can help you make it alive all the way to the pool.

    Here is a screenshot so you can see where to stand:

    http://s49.photobucket.com/albums/f284/bohemian0607/?action=view&current=ironforgeguardglitch.jpg

    Good luck everyone! I will catch Old Ironjaw again someday. It only took me about 400 casts to get the first one, so I am not giving up hope yet.

Old Ironjaw in 4 Casts

  1. Bakkhus, February 2009:

    Yep, I did it in 4 casts. Two weeks of reading and prepping, locations mapped, times figured out when to play... costumes, disguises, and potions on hand... empty bags to go...

    Sunday night at 1:30ish am (technically monday) Took the front door in, used Orb of Deception on a Brewfest Ram to try to fool people. Guards were more of a pain. A DK and Rogue jumped me almost to the pool/cavern area.

    Ran back, watched around my body, coast was clear, ran over to the wall, healed, did a /sleep to test it out, threw out 4 casts and...

    http://i42.tinypic.com/21b9j0g.jpg
    (excuse guild chat cursing and miscounting, I was freakin out)

    Not sure how solid the proof is, but time is shown, my orb of deception cooldown is just barely gone, only 3 fish in pack (you can see my dead skely in distance).

    To anyone saying I was lucky, its true, but I also finished my entire fishing achievement tree up that day and got "Salty". I already had the Old Crafty from a few days of fishing a couple weeks earlier, and about 4 days in Mulgore getting a fish for the other rare. The rest just came. Not to mention 2 years of fishing contest to win... luckily I was first on my server after I transferfed from Bloodhoof to Area 52 the week it opened during BC release week.

    Now just see me in my full getup sitting in my fishing chair in Dal somtimes. Good times and Good Luck.

  2. Pheardeath, August 2009:

    Caught on 8th casted I have proof I Screen shoted right as i got it.
    and i was only a lvl 8 fisher when i got him so its all random
    GL on getting more.

    im on the server Laughing Skull

    http://tinypic.com/r/33ze9zq/3

    all i was doing is lvling up my fishing so i can us my Seth's Fishing pole and i deside to go to IF so i can try to get somthing with lvling it up and what i was trying to get i got it 8 cast in WTF i said and i took the Screen shot.

    (El merged 2 similar posts.)

  3. Kovlish, November 2009:

    Went from Fishing 254 to Fishing 378 while fishing for Old Ironjaw. I don't have a tracker, but I'm tired of catfish and mud snapper. I estimate I caught over 900 fish as well as 8 lesser healing potions, 2 17-pound catfish, 1 19-pound catfish and a [ Pattern: Colorful Kilt ]. I also noticed I had about a 1% no hit rate on the bobber. All total this took two days and about 4 hours of fishing.

  1. Runne, November 2009:

    Posting here since this is the newest thread for it. I just caught Old Ironjaw in about 250 casts. I had caught him once before, way back before achievements in 5 casts, but hey, atleast I got him. So glad itididn't take me forever.

  2. Shreda, November 2009:

    Took me about 30 mins to get (although I didn't count casts) I still don't know how I'm gonna get crafty...

fishing- old ironjaw, old crafty

  1. reddrake, September 2008:

    I posted this in the WoW suggestion forum:
    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043245384&sid=1

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    # Topic Fishing- old crafty, old ironjaw

    Since a lot of people will be getting these obscure fish due to the added achievements, I was thinking it would be cool if they were changed to be one handed instead of specifically offhand items. In that same line of thinking it would be cool if they had some kind of a 2 set bonus proc like, "Chance on hit- target is afflicted with walleye vision."

    Walleye vision would place a debuff on the target that would make all other NPCs and players look like frogs or maybe change that players view to be distorted like its namesake.

    Post some more cool procs these fish could do.
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    If you guys think this is cool post your ideas. Thanks!

  2. Harps, October 2008:

    took me 4661 casts

    was a real pain to get, but with that salty title coming out. It was worth every second.

  3. Oberweiss, October 2008:

    Harps wrote:

    took me 4661 casts
    was a real pain to get, but with that salty title coming out. It was worth every second.

    The Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw catches are not requirements for the Salty title. I thought they were, too, until I re-read El's achievements section.

How to catch Iron Jaw, for Horde

  1. rlehm, January 2009:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7qf67BCbb4

    I would just add to face your back to the wall, and fish out to the right of the wheel. If you fish towards it's top, most casts will not let you mouse over the bait.

  2. Tequilla6, October 2009:

    If it were not for the posts here I would have given up on this one long ago.

    I finally caught him this afternoon after having to clear my bags twice of fish. It got to the stage where the vendors were saying no to more fish and I started sending em out to all my mates via the mail service just to get rid of them.

    Stats were over 2 days
    1917 Fish
    1180 Longjaw Mud Snapper
    382 Bristle Whisker Catfish
    340 Brilliant Smallfish
    Some 17, 19 and 22 Pound Catfish
    And various other junk.

    and 1 Old Ironjaw

    at 450 Fishing this was harder than catching the Giant Rat and the Delaran Coin fountain tasks put together..

    Don't give up, he will come along eventually. Now for Old Crafty I guess

  3. jeraz, October 2009:

    m8, you probely dont beleave me but you have no idea how long i have been fishing for this little ****. i have around 4,5k catches in ironforge(cant show screeny of fishing buddy because it reseted 1 week ago) and still no ironjaw... i catched 6 greeny's and like 10 19pound catfish..
    but i'm not giving up..

Old Ironjaw quick story

  1. jsz, April 2009:

    Me: Magtheridon-US Horde
    Where: Ironforge
    When: 3AM EST 24 April 2009

    I caught him in exactly 60 casts. I'm a rogue, so I stealthed into The Forlorn Cavern, the city was essentially empty so I had high hopes. I did /sleep to conceal myself as much as possible, and began casting while talking on guild chat and watching [2. Trade] fly by. I was just about to hearth back to Dal and hit the hay when BAM, up comes Old Ironjaw.

    Just wanted to tell my story.

  2. Antonine, April 2009:

    Congrats! That's one the the tougher, more interesting catches out there (mainly due to the PVP element)

    Took me a week with almost 5,000 casts to snag mine. The hardest part was keeping your senses keen, as you needed to watch for the confirmation box.

  3. jsz, April 2009:

    I think they removed the confirmation box in 3.1 or somewhat recently due to people missing fish. I missed Old Crafty twice before I got him due to casting immediately after reeling in. Wanted to kick myself.

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