http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Wed, 16 May 2012 21:49:06 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/help-with-statistics#post-11793 Tue, 15 May 2012 04:16:20 +0000 canuchin 11793@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>makes sense, quality over quantity =) I just wanted to see how I could help </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/where-is-mop-fishing-trainer#post-11777 Sun, 13 May 2012 05:16:03 +0000 el 11777@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>All Fishing Trainers will train Zen Master Fishing. There is one new trainer in Pandaria - Nat Pagle at the Anglers Wharf in <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/krasarang_wilds.html" title="Fish Finder: Krasarang Wilds.">Krasarang Wilds</a>. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/where-is-mop-fishing-trainer#post-11776 Sun, 13 May 2012 02:45:18 +0000 poetica417 11776@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Where can you find a trainer to give you new skill up in MoP? Will old trainers give the skill as well? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-preview#post-11775 Sat, 12 May 2012 20:07:05 +0000 el 11775@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Indeed, Idoru. I reached level 89 on Friday morning and everything was still grey. I think this is a case where data-mining needs to be treated with extreme caution. Since The Anglers' settlements were actively being populated over the last few beta builds (eg <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/news/mop-sri-la-village.html" title="News: MoP: Sri-La Village - News from 12 May 2012. Preview of the Anglers' second settlement.">MoP: Sri-La Village</a>), it is entirely likely The Anglers' quests are still a work in progress. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-preview#post-11774 Sat, 12 May 2012 18:43:35 +0000 Idoru 11774@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hit level 89 today, and the quest markers are still grey. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-cooking-specializations#post-11773 Fri, 11 May 2012 17:52:56 +0000 el 11773@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The Journeyman Cookbook has caused a fair bit of discussion. It isn't available in-game, and given that it has "test" written all over it, probably never will be.</p> <p>The spell it triggers is curious, because it is assigned to its own SkillLine group. SkillLines are groups of spells, like professions or specialisations. There was no need to create a new group just to have the item, so whatever the item is intended to test will be slightly unusual. Gut feeling is some sort of test for account-bound recipes, simply because it is called a "cookbook". But it could be something very different. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-cooking-specializations#post-11772 Fri, 11 May 2012 16:11:58 +0000 Desade 11772@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Have you seen<br /> Journeyman Cookbook<br /> <a href="http://mop.wowhead.com/item=86512" rel="nofollow">http://mop.wowhead.com/item=86512</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-cooking-specializations#post-11771 Fri, 11 May 2012 15:27:15 +0000 Desade 11771@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I was able to get cooking to 555<br /> Using<br /> Fish Cake -<br /> mat = golden carp<br /> Swirling Mist Soup - Specialization 1st recipe = Way of the Pot - Intellect<br /> mat = Jade Lungfish - Fished from coast of Krasarang Wilds</p> <p>Going to look later to see what other fish might be usable to lvl higher or maybe try to hunt the other meats. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-cooking-specializations#post-11770 Fri, 11 May 2012 15:08:32 +0000 el 11770@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I suspect enough critical ingredients are missing to make it impossible to level cooking yet. The only reason I could train specializations was because I had already reached 530 skill on <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/fish_cake.html" title="Fish Finder: Fish Cake." class="nocolor" rel="item=74641">Fish Cake</a>s, back before the skill-up profile for that dish changed to go grey at 500. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-cooking-specializations#post-11769 Fri, 11 May 2012 14:38:54 +0000 Desade 11769@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The mat for the lead in daily cooking quest (test 1 I think it was)<br /> wildfowl drumstick<br /> (not what I would guess makes rice pudding)<br /> Killed everything in the zone several times over and over never did find the mat..</p> <p>Thinking about it going to go kill stuff in Krasarang Wilds since its wild fowl. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/help-with-statistics#post-11749 Mon, 07 May 2012 23:28:28 +0000 el 11749@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Years ago Sutorix (the developer of Fishing Buddy) and I discussed an automated data collection option, but it never came to anything. Currently most data here is sampled, but primarily based on analysis of patterns:</p> <p>Traditionally those patterns were a much easier way of understanding the catches than the raw data, since the same pattern would recur in many places/times periods/etc. Crudely that's why the information here is more accurate than sites like Wowhead, which have a high sample size, but don't capture the correct patterns within their sample size. For example, completely missing aspects like pool/open water differences, inland/coastal, time of day, junk catches due to skill, and so on.</p> <p>So while it is generally true that more information gives better values, it is only truly true with the right information, not just more. In practice things work quite well with an initial sample and then people subsequently reporting oddities and changes they find. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/help-with-statistics#post-11748 Mon, 07 May 2012 22:34:35 +0000 canuchin 11748@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>hey, I'm new to the site and wanted to see if I could help with the information, I know fishing buddy is used to gather statitstics, is there somewhere to upload them?</p> <p>more information gives better values right? =) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/steelscale-crushfish-bugged-on-darkmoon-island#post-11747 Mon, 07 May 2012 22:05:35 +0000 Lyusi 11747@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Went to the cave this afternoon, caught Steelscale on my 112th cast. No sea ponies in that time frame, but I already had one. Thanks for the Tip! Officially salty as of today :p </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/big-iron-fishing-pole-1#post-11746 Mon, 07 May 2012 05:28:43 +0000 Tipitina 11746@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>While digging with archeology I decided to equip the Kalu'ak pole and check the traps:</p> <p>4 Cuirboull Boots<br /> 2 Reinforced Chain Boots<br /> 6 Cross Stitches Sandals<br /> 5 Engineering parts<br /> 10 Shellfish</p> <p>and 1 Big Iron Fishing Pole</p> <p>Took about 15 or 20 so minutes. </p> <p>Did this in the off-hours of the server. Yippy! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-pony-probability-hypothesis#post-11737 Sun, 06 May 2012 20:11:13 +0000 robin183 11737@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Took me 35 casts (total in the Darkmoon zone) to catch my Sea Pony, even though I've got pretty high statistics;</p> <p>140 days played<br /> Fishing (525) + Kalu'ak Pole (30) = 555<br /> 5805 Fish Caught<br /> Level 85 </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/only-lucky-or-change-in-catch-rate#post-11736 Sun, 06 May 2012 19:56:24 +0000 Marlburo 11736@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Yeah I had a LITTLE (142 casts) problem getting a huge spotted fel tail but certainly not 6+ hours hard. Although it seemed to take forever in part due to the pure frustration because I'd already caught 1000s when those fish were useful :P </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/cata-fishing/page/9#post-11735 Sun, 06 May 2012 19:51:56 +0000 Marlburo 11735@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>can't say for sure because its tough to tell which fish were caught before or after my reported change but in 11k casts im running at about 32%...but as you said, last time I was there seemed like the rate had increased. I'll try to get a big number posted sometime next week in an area I haven't fished so we can get this settled. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/cata-fishing/page/9#post-11734 Sun, 06 May 2012 15:50:02 +0000 el 11734@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Uldum <em>may</em> be wrongly stated here. A month or 3 ago there were several reports that the catch rate for Lavascale Catfish had increased, which I also found when I re-checked. But since there have been several reports that the catch rate is back around 33%... On a 1000 sample we should be able to see a 5% difference fairly clearly. I'm inclined to believe the larger, more recent, number - yours. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement/page/28#post-11733 Sun, 06 May 2012 14:27:39 +0000 Elfarrow 11733@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Just need to win a fishing contest now to get my Salty title. After trying quite a bit, over 14,000 casts mostly in Howling Fjord in pools looking for the Dark Herring, I had basically given up. I decided to give Stonebull Lake in Mulgore a try. Caught "15 Pound Mud Snapper" on my 567th cast. Here are the stats:</p> <p>332 Raw Brilliant Smallfish<br /> 220 Raw Longjaw Mud Snapper<br /> 3 Minor Mana Potion<br /> 4 12 Pound Mud Snapper<br /> 2 10 Pound Mud Snapper<br /> 1 Flange Mace<br /> 1 Practice Sword<br /> 3 misclicks (don't know if these matter at all or not, but wanted to include for honesty)<br /> 1 15 Pound Mud Snapper</p> <p>So glad to finally have just one obstacle left to over come and get my "Salty" on. Good luck to everyone else that is still working on this! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/cata-fishing/page/9#post-11732 Sun, 06 May 2012 14:09:55 +0000 Kaluria 11732@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Did 1000 casts at Uldum inland water:</p> <p>2,6% Volatile Water<br /> 15,8% Blackbelly Mudfish<br /> 32,8% Lavascale Catfish<br /> 48,8% Sharptooth</p> <p>Now that is 5,2% less than stated for Lavascale Catfish - did i have no luck? Or are the numbers on the Uldum website wrong? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/only-lucky-or-change-in-catch-rate#post-11731 Sun, 06 May 2012 02:05:25 +0000 makani1111 11731@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>3 Days..several hours a day.. fishing only pools.. Jeweled fishing pole.. fishing hat..525 fishing... not ONE huge spotted feltail???<br /> JUST now caught one! finally finished Liminologist achievement... </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement/page/28#post-11730 Sat, 05 May 2012 10:28:40 +0000 Mahkia 11730@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I want to thank El for recommending fishing in pools in Howling Fjord. While I haven't gotten the achievement yet, I did fish up my sea turtle during the attempt. :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/raw-nightfin-snapper#post-11728 Fri, 04 May 2012 08:31:29 +0000 Ahlycia 11728@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I caught my Raw Nightfin Snapper on my second cast at 47.7 88.7, Tainted Forest, Blasted Lands at 1:27 a.m. server time. I gave up casting in the Plaguelands and tried here. I'm glad I did. I now have the achievement The Limnologist. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11711 Wed, 02 May 2012 13:30:04 +0000 Idoru 11711@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11701" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>The pet was added as a reward to an existing quest, which means any character that previously completed that quest cannot get the new reward. Just a quirk of testing.</p></blockquote> <p>Yeah, I always save one character copy for when they say everything is done.<br /> Then I play through the quests one last time. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/no-kalu%e2%80%99ak-announcement-not-near-frozen-sea#post-11710 Wed, 02 May 2012 11:03:26 +0000 fujislider 11710@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Thanks El, thought I was crazy </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-rewards#post-11706 Wed, 02 May 2012 03:21:06 +0000 Druidmoon 11706@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-rewards#post-11696" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Oceanic water rafting is the quest item. In practice the oceanic ("coastal") restriction enforces itself, because all Krasarang Wilds' inland rivers flow into the sea via small waterfalls, which makes it tricky to ride the raft from the sea up onto the rivers.</p> </blockquote> <p>Noticed the other day when testing, that the buff stays on even when you dismount and run (don't mount as you lose the 'Raft' buff) so it was quite possible to run up to Krasarang River go onto the water and the raft appeared.</p> <p>Few things noted using the raft, remembering it is still early beta and plenty can change.</p> <ol> <li>Buff stays on within Krasarang Wilds as el noted. This also includes the main river up to the Falls where you move to another area in the zone and it goes. So not just 'Oceanic' i.e. sea.</li> <li>You can fish while on the Raft <strong>but</strong> you can also use weapons as a hunter or spells etc. You can do this while moving which I think is unique for mounts? So I could ride the Raft while kiting a shark until dead. Some potential for exploits perhaps.</li> <li>Taking damage is like a mount in that you take damage and can be dismounted by a stun, otherwise you can outrun a mob. But you can also heal while moving as per 2. It may work better if it acts like waterwalking in that, if you take damage the buff goes.</li> <li>Hunter's pets are <strong>not</strong> automatically put to Passive so if you or the pet aggro then if on other setting it will fight the mob. Eventually if you keep going, it will despawn and you need to resummon.</li> <li>If you ride it onto land you get a sudden jolt forward as it despawn. You can avoid this if you jump as you hit the land.</li> <li>Sometimes it does not spawn and you are basically waterwalking. To get it to spawn either run and jump usually does it or dive and resurface. Bit like waterwalking proper. Latency can make it tough work.</li> <li>As with 2. you can summon and dismiss pets as you move/ travel. Really anything apart from try to summon another mount. Not tried a mage Blink while mounted which could be interesting.</li> <li> At level 85 with swift training it is 200% normal travel speed. Basically like being mounted with a waterwalking potion or DK mount etc.</li> </ol> <p>Overall it is a fascinating mechanic. Part buff, part mount. I hope any potential for exploits does not mean it is removed as it is really a great thing. I also hope they introduce Rafts or similar buff water mounts.</p> <p>Being able to stand or sit and fish from it is very cool (now do the same for the magic carpet!)</p> <p>This is especially so for the northern end of Pandaria which has sheer cliffs with few places for fishing from land in parts. Consider like parts of Northrend. Just opens up a lot of possibilities for cool fishing spots. And why it will be a shame if the faction reward raft is only 10 minute or similar short duration with 1 hour cooldown. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-nat-pagle#post-11705 Wed, 02 May 2012 02:02:32 +0000 Druidmoon 11705@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>More great fishing news! Good to see him again. Some details;</p> <p>He is titled <strong>&lt;The Anglers Quartermaster&gt;</strong> at Angler's Wharf, Krasarang Wilds in Pandaria.</p> <p>He sells the faction rewards for <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/mists_of_pandaria.html#quests">'The Anglers'</a> and is also a Fishing Trainer.</p> <p>Speech;</p> <p><cite>A fellow angler I see! I have a variety of gear from these local fisherman [sic],<br /> just let me know what you need!</cite></p> <p>From window;</p> <p><cite>Hello fellow angler! Have you been around these parts long?<br /> Me and my buddy "Big Hook" here travel far and wide looking for the next catch!</p> <p>We ran into this place by accident and the locals were friendly with both their supplies and booze so we decided to stick around!</cite><cite></p> <p>He sits in a boat on a Fishing Chair with it's fishing umbrella. Next to him is his new fishing buddy, John "Big Hook" Marsock &lt;Sports Fisherman&gt;.</p> <p>Surrounded by empty bottles and fish. Nothing new there then...</cite> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/schooner-wreckage-pool#post-11704 Tue, 01 May 2012 21:34:35 +0000 Xanthipe 11704@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Wetlands seems to be the easiest place to find these now. After a few hours clearing pools in various zones, came to Wetlands, and found one in one of the inland pools near the coast straight away. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/no-kalu%e2%80%99ak-announcement-not-near-frozen-sea#post-11703 Tue, 01 May 2012 13:21:00 +0000 el 11703@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>One of the older fishing bugs in the game... I reported in on the patch 3.3 Public Test Realm two and half years ago. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/no-kalu%e2%80%99ak-announcement-not-near-frozen-sea#post-11702 Tue, 01 May 2012 12:38:20 +0000 fujislider 11702@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Last Saturday I was poised for the Kalu’ak Derby. I stationed myself just above Kaskala where the puddle-jumper pools are. Made sure I was there in plenty of time, and that I was looking at Server time.</p> <p>Never heard a thing. No warning, no start, no winner. I fished for about 15 minutes before I figured someone already won. Sure enough, hearthed to Dalaran, and Elder Clearwater did indeed tell me there'd already been a winner.</p> <p>I re-checked that my chat channels were all enabled. Stumped.</p> <p>This happen to anyone else before? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11701 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 18:31:49 +0000 el 11701@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The pet was added as a reward to an existing quest, which means any character that previously completed that quest cannot get the new reward. Just a quirk of testing.</p> <p>Command <em>/use petname</em> (eg /use fishy) will summon any pet you thought you had learnt. The current User Interface is heavily bugged. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11700 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 13:44:13 +0000 Druidmoon 11700@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Idoru <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11699" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>This must be a recent addition.<br /> I have finished all quests in Jade Forest and didn't get this reward.</p></blockquote> <p>It maybe an Alliance only quest line, if you you are playing a Horde character on the Beta server?</p> <p>Looking back through the quest chain (it's right from the near beginning quests for Alliance at Wayward Landing) it seems to start with;</p> <p><a href="http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:The_Missing_Admiral">Quest: The Missing Admiral</a></p> <p>leading all the way to a quest given in the Pearlfin Village;</p> <p><a href="http://www.wowpedia.org/Quest:Let_Them_Burn">Quest: Let Them Burn</a></p> <p>which is shown on wowhead as the one giving this pet reward;</p> <p><a href="http://mop.wowhead.com/quest=29905">Let Them Burn</a></p> <p>There are other questlines which may be involved such as the ones from Lorewalker Cho (notably <a href="http://mop.wowhead.com/quest=29923">The Dream Brew</a> which takes you on a flight to the location of Prince Anduin) and another loot drop quest item, <a href="http://mop.wowhead.com/quest=29895">Trail of the White Pawn</a>, although I do not know if this is necessary or just a breadcrumb quest.</p> <p>As a note although you get the 'Fishy' companion as the final reward, on learning it, it does not show up in the new Pet Journal so it is not possible to summon at the moment. I guess they need to update the list of pets in the journal for the new ones. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-15640-new-companion-fishy#post-11699 Mon, 30 Apr 2012 08:46:28 +0000 Idoru 11699@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>This must be a recent addition. </p> <p>I have finished all quests in Jade Forest and didn't get this reward. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/15-pound-mud-snapper-help#post-11698 Sun, 29 Apr 2012 09:24:56 +0000 Quincey 11698@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hey I used this site to find a good place for this fish, and I agree with Mulgore, Stonebull Lake, got mine in 93 casts, which i find acceptable, in saying that others haven't been quite as lucky and some more so, good luck anyway! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-rewards#post-11697 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 18:23:46 +0000 Druidmoon 11697@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/mop-anglers-rewards#post-11696" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Oceanic water rafting is the quest item. In practice the oceanic ("coastal") restriction enforces itself, because all Krasarang Wilds' inland rivers flow into the sea via small waterfalls, which makes it tricky to ride the raft from the sea up onto the rivers.<br /> Another curious aside is the Water Strider model: There are over 10 differently coloured versions. That could be an artist at play. Or it could be that there will be a family of slightly different Water Strider mounts to collect.</p></blockquote> <p>True, though there are other areas to access coastal water (oceanic) such as Sri La fishing village in The Jade Forest, for instance, talking of the actual buff. Maybe other similar buffs for other areas or variants.</p> <p>Will be a real shame if there is no option for a hour long buff item to use everywhere.</p> <p>Or perhaps it spawns in some different colours, as some hunter pets do. Though 10 seems a lot!</p> <p>Why I love Beta. So many, 'what if's' ;) </p>