grank Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sat, 18 May 2013 11:02:35 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5977 Sat, 02 May 2009 11:26:29 +0000 Aqusia 5977@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The only thing I did not see in your guide is a shopping list! So I made one for Alliance for the Cooking 1-300 portion.</p> <p><strong>Cooking 1-300 Kit Shopping List</strong></p> <p>Ironforge, Dun Morogh, Eastern Kingdoms<br /> Recipes<br /> Tansy Puddlefizz, Forlorn Cavern<br /> o Longjaw Mud Snapper<br /> o Rockscale Cod<br /> o Mithril Head Trout</p> <p>Fish<br /> o 75 Raw Longjaw Mud Snappers<br /> o 20 Raw Brilliant Smallfish<br /> o 70 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish</p> <p>Stormwind, Elwynn Forest, Eastern Kingdoms<br /> Recipes<br /> Catherine Leland, Canals, Dock Near Trade District<br /> o Brilliant Smallfish<br /> o Bristle Whisker Catfish<br /> Kendor Kabonka, Old Town, Upstairs of Pig &#38; Whistle Tavern<br /> o Curiously Tasty Omelet</p> <p>Booty Bay, Stranglethorn Vale, Eastern Kingdoms<br /> Fish<br /> o 15 Raw Rockscale Cod<br /> o 45 Raw Mithril Head Trout<br /> o 25 Raw Spotted Yellowtails</p> <p>Meat<br /> Any Raptor<br /> o 15 Raptor Eggs</p> <p>Steamwheedle Port, Tanaris, Kalimdor<br /> Recipes<br /> Gikkix<br /> o Spotted Yellowtail<br /> o Poached Sunscale Salmon</p> <p>Bay of Storms, Azshara, Kalimdor<br /> Fish<br /> o 25 Raw Sunscale Salmon<br /> o 25 Darkclaw Lobster</p> <p>Feathermoon Stronghold, Feralas, Kalimdor<br /> Recipes<br /> Vivianna<br /> o Lobster Stew </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5961 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:30:38 +0000 el 5961@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>It's a very interesting idea - thanks for the write-up. Packaging up everything (including advice) one needs to power-level a profession has a lot of potential.</p> <p>As a footnote, fish-to-order was done by <a href="http://www.elitefishvendor.com/">Elite Fish Vendor</a>, although Blizzard didn't seem to like the idea of that being advertised. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5960 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 20:06:31 +0000 Azaguth 5960@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>AWESOME document Kreight. I read through it all, and I must say, I suddenly feel stupid for not having come up with something like this myself.</p> <p>The only thing that held me back from coming up with something like this is the knowledge that many people are wary of "package deals" that require more than one secure trade, at least from my understanding. But of course, you blew that theory out of the water.</p> <p>All I can say is, wow. Nice. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5955 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:55:47 +0000 Kreight 5955@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Oh, I thought of a couple more things... Advertising via direct mail and coupons!</p> <p>Coupons! No, I'm not nuts. Here's how you make an in game coupon. Unfortunately you need to have a crafting profession, so if you're all gathering you're out of luck. Get some mats and make up a bunch of one of your lowest level items. On Khadgar I picked up tailoring and made some linen cloaks. Now you've got some items that can't be duplicated, because your name is tacked onto them because you created it. (Not that anyone would probably care enough to try and cheat you, but having coupons is just cool.)</p> <p>Now you've got a coupon you can hand out. You can give them to customers you've just trained, and tell them it's 100g off for whoever uses it, so they can give it to a friend or a guildmate. </p> <p>I've also done referral fees with some success. For a while I was actually paying out 125g. The idea being that other people would do your word of mouth advertising for you and bring you customers, and you'd send them a little kickback. 125g might have been a little high. I like the coupon idea, with 100g off, and 50g for the referrer. That seemed to work well.</p> <p>I tried a little direct mail, too. I wrote up an add, and then sent that to like 10 random people I saw standing around in SW, along with a coupon. That actually didn't work, too well. I only had one person use it. He actually used the coupon, though, which I thought was awesome. He's also the guy who lent me his guild bank. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5954 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 14:46:16 +0000 Kreight 5954@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The only thing I have to add about starting your own guild is that they're a bit of a pain. Getting that charter means standing around begging people for signatures. I was offering 10g a pop at one time and spent maybe half an hour without getting any. Maybe it was just dumb luck. Before getting your own charter, you might try asking in trade chat if anyone has a guild you can buy. </p> <p>Tabs increase in price each time you purchase one. They start at 100g for the first, then 250g, 500g, 1000g, 2500g and 5000g. The first 3 tabs are totally worth it, and even the fourth 1000g tab wasn't too bad when I was really running out of space. I can't quite bring myself to pay more, since I can always just make more alts for next to nothing. I realize that's not an option for everyone since some people have their 10-characters filled with alts they actually play.</p> <p>I lucked out with my first bank and bought it outright; 3 tabs for 450g which was a great deal. What's more, the guy left a ton of crap in it and I probably made close to 200g selling it all. </p> <p>My second bank on Khadgar was loaned to me by a nice customer I had that wasn't using it. It was only a single tab, but not having to go through the charter business made it totally worth it. I've since bought two more tabs. I'm not sure if he wants it back when I'm done with it, but even if he does, the 750g for the two tabs I bought it the cost of doing business. I've got full control of the guild, and he doesn't have access to my stock.</p> <p>My last bank was from another past customer, and he's actually still the GM, so if he wanted to he could snatch all my stuff. Some people you just trust, though, and this guy is one of them. Technically I'm leasing his bank, since I paid him rent for several months. </p> <p>So try to buy one first. If you can find someone who you really trust, you can try renting one without them giving up guild control. Or you can just make your own. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5952 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 11:43:56 +0000 Rodge 5952@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Fantastic idea - I levelled up 3 chars to high level cooking and I'd certainly have paid 1250 gold rather than doing that!</p> <blockquote><p>My only question is, can you have a guild bank without being a part of a guild? Is it possible to be the only person in the guild? I would like to try this with a guild bank tab, but I'm worried that another person would take all my beautiful mats. How do you achieve this without problems?</p></blockquote> <p>What you do is you get a guild charter - then get 9 people to sign your charter (you can usually get people to sign up an alt for 1-5g fee in any city.<br /> Then when you turn in your charter and create your guild, you can kick everyone out of the guild again. You don't even need to kick them out - as it's your guild then you're the only person with admin rights to the gbank so you can revoke all priveleges to everyone except yourself. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5950 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:25:06 +0000 Aqusia 5950@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I got extremely excited when I read your document! I absolutely &lt;3 fishing and cooking, so this is perfect for me ^_^ I am going to just try it for myself at first without the whole kits thing, but your walkthrough is comprehensive enough that I feel completely confident in printing it out, and follow your word to the letter when I do want to start my own business.</p> <p>My only question is, can you have a guild bank without being a part of a guild? Is it possible to be the only person in the guild? I would like to try this with a guild bank tab, but I'm worried that another person would take all my beautiful mats. How do you achieve this without problems? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5949 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 05:04:44 +0000 Kreight 5949@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Ok, all done. Like I said, it's pretty lengthy. If anyone actually decides to go through with this, keep me in the loop. I'd be really interested to find out how things are working for you, and if you've done anything new that I hadn't thought of.</p> <p><a href="http://www.woodenbadger.com/wow/cooking.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.woodenbadger.com/wow/cooking.html</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5947 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:45:27 +0000 Kreight 5947@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I actually wrote up a bunch of stuff already because a friend of mine wanted to try this. That was a couple of months ago, so I'm trying to run through and update things a little. I should be done pretty soon, though, so check back in a few hours. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5946 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:35:29 +0000 e2thex 5946@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I have thought about selling "powerleveling packages" before but I've always been too lazy to try it. I'm glad to hear that you've been successful at it and would love to hear more. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5939 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 15:41:30 +0000 Desertbull 5939@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I like fishing, my guild has been disbanded, my wallet is always empty.<br /> Tell us more please, fishers are used to be patient, so don't worry we couldn't manage to read a wall of text. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5922 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 23:46:51 +0000 AbsolutRunner 5922@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I also am interested in hearing more. Perhaps you could link the post you put in the official forums, or flesh it out here, as you wish! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5921 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:49:23 +0000 SlugSalter 5921@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I would be very interested in specifics, this sounds right up my street. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/els-angling-made-me-rich#post-5918 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 21:19:59 +0000 Kreight 5918@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Sort of. </p> <p>I tried posting this in the Blizzard professions forum and got, at best, some indifferent comments. I feel, though, that the readers here will be a little more receptive. One of the comments I got was that as far as efficient money making techniques go this one is far from perfect, but it just so happens that it fits my time schedule well. It's also primarily based around fishing, in which everyone here is already well versed.</p> <p>So it was El's that really gave me the original idea. I was already at 450 in both my fishing and cooking, but I was reading over the cooking/fishing leveling guide here. The thought was this... Could I just go out and follow that guide, fish up the amounts detailed therein, pick up the recipes, cookbooks, quest requirements, etc, and then sell them in one big package?</p> <p>I decided to give it a shot. I think the first run through was maybe 5 hours total fishing and farming mobs. I didn't buy anything. When I was done, I used a friend's alt as a test subject. The idea was that we could just park the alt in Dal and use it to run the cooking quest and get Northern Spices. Incidentally, I only did 1-400. You can't get to 450 in one sitting, and 400 lets you cook the recipes bought with the cooking awards, so it was a good place to stop.</p> <p>So it pretty much went off without a hitch. It was about 45 minutes, 1-400, and that included getting to Gadget for the artisan quest. 3.1 has made things easier as you can get artisan at the trainers, and you don't need to pick up the cookbooks any longer.</p> <p>So once I knew it was doable, I gathered two more sets of mats and tried to sell them. I'm not sure what amount I tried at first, but soon after I set upon 1250g as my price. Things went so well I haven't stopped since.</p> <p>If people are interested in specifics I'd be happy to share, but one of the complaints about my forum post was that it was too long, and people didn't want to read walls of text. The short version is this.... I've sold almost 70 of these kits in the last 3 months, and have probably made between 60,000 - 70,000g. (I don't always charge full price.)</p> <p>One thing that makes this work is that I'm enjoying running an in game business. If you're a hard-core raider and most of your time is spent running instances this might not be for you. But if you'd like to try something new and make a little cash, you might want to give it a shot. </p>