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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Tag: achievements - Recent Posts</title>
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			<title>Xellros on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10610</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Xellros</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Eh, I work on Saturdays and Sundays, straight through the derby and STV extravaganza.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I get an hour for lunch though, and it took me about six months to get the kaluak derby.  The STV one wasn't as bad.  That one only took me like 3-4 months.  I don't remember.  But, if the title's important to you,  you'll find a way to get out there and fish.. =D  I remember when I got my STV one, it was during the super bowl.  &#38;gt;.&#38;lt;  The year the saints won.  I figured less players would be on during the superbowl, so I had an advantage.  I also enlisted the help of some of my friends, to roam the beaches, distrupting fellow horde anglers, or kill the Alliance punks.  Hehe'  It was such fun times when I was doing those stupid derbies.  I hope they stay like this forever.
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			<title>LunevaLee on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10608</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2011 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>LunevaLee</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Sorry, Minivini and all you that have the opinion of &#34;It's too bad you can't fish on Sundays(and now Saturdays)&#34;  No this isn't right, since the time is restricted it makes PERFECT sense for this to be a Feat of Strength, not part of the achievement. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;     I have worked double shift on Sundays for seven years, and two years ago, they decided I'd be double shift on Saturday, as well.   Unlike some of you who are unemployed or dependent on others, I cannot quit my job, and in this economy it's not a real option to find another.  I cannot get this achievement, unless say, it's a holiday, and every other WoW fisherman is going to be out there, too.  It's ridiculous really. It doesn't add to the rarity, you know what does?: One that Didn't Get Away.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;   Players that have Salty and are saying it'll take away from you, GUESS WHAT? Most of you have said you've won it multiple times! It's obviously not hard for you! The ones who are complaining, are the ones who can't even get ONE opportunity to compete in a single tournament.  So get over yourselves, it should be changed.
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			<title>Gaevon on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10493</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Gaevon</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I worked *hard* to get the Salty title.  So there are requirements that are difficult - I think that's part of the point.  Can't fish on weekends?  Well, stop worrying about it.  Find another challenging achievment and move on.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;My only wish would be that maxing out the professions should gain you some advantage.  Perhaps a better casting accuracy for fishing?
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			<title>christos on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10464</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2011 18:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>christos</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Totally disagree with original post.. I have been playing for about 4 months now and already won the extravaganza twice.. there is a lot of skilled involved in this and if anything is the most proud acheivement of them all for any angler..  I have strategies that have helped not only myself but another person win it for their first time (with a little help from me killing any horde or marked pvpers in his way too)  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Wait... what are we talking about?
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			<title>Grayseven on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10455</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jul 2011 06:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Grayseven</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've already seen one hard to get title nerfed and I'll honestly say I'd rather not see it happen again.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just recently completed Master Angler after over two years of effort. I knew going in that it is a very difficult achievement (just as I knew exactly what the Insane grind was going to be like) and I steeled myself to doing it.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Taking out the tourney requirements would be to the detriment of the title. Only 104 or so people a year can win on each server, which means that outside of server first raid titles and certain PvP titles, Salty is one of the rarest titles in game today, if not the rarest.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Tourney wins personify fishing. Part skill, part luck, winning the tourney is all about being in the right place at the right time with the right strategy.
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			<title>PiggyWiggy on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10449</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 17:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>PiggyWiggy</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It should not be removed at all. There are some great strategies that can be used to win the Derby. The Kaluak Derby is pure luck when fishing schools. Some placement strategies can be used in that one. I have yet to win the Kaluak contest, but I will try till I get it, cause I need those boots.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The STV contest I've won 3 times out of the 4 times I've tried. I also helped my guildmate win it on his first attempt. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Leave it in. Leave Salty exclusive. Part of fishing is strategy.
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			<title>Silvestas on "The Coinmaster"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-coinmaster/page/2#post-10412</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 20:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Silvestas</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The Coin Master:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A Penny For Your Thoughts:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Alonsus Faol's Copper Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ansirem's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Attumen's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Danath's Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Dornaa's Shiny Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Eitrigg's Copper Coin x3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Elling Trias' Copper Coin x9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Falstad Wildhammer's Copper Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Genn's Copper Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Inigo's Copper Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Krasus' Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kryll's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Landro Longshot's Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Molok's Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Murky's Copper Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Princess Calia Menethil's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Private Marcus Jonathan's Copper Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Salandria's Shiny Copper Coin x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Squire Rowe's Copper Coin x3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Stalvan's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Vareesa's Copper Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Vargoth's Copper Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Copper: 118&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;SIlver In The City:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Aegwynn's Silver Coin x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Alleria's Silver Coin x9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Antonidas' Silver Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Arcanist Doan's Silver Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fandral Staghelm's Silver Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;High Tinker Mekkatorque's Silver Coin x3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Khadgar's Silver Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;King Anasterian Sunstrider's Silver Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;King Terenas Menethil's Silver Coin x8&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;King Varian Wrynn's Silver Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Maiev Shadowsong's Silver Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Medivh's Silver Coin x9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Muradin Bronzebeard's Silver Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Prince Magni Bronzebeard's Silver Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A Peasant's Silver Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Silver: 91&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There's Gold In That There Fountain:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Anduin Wrynn's Gold Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Archimonde's Gold Coin x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Arthas' Gold Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Arugal's Gold Coin x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Brann Bronzebeard's Gold Coin x8&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Chromie's Gold Coin x1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Kel'Thuzad's Gold Coin x1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lady Jaina Proudmoore's Gold Coin x3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Lady Katrana Prestor's Gold Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Prince Kael'thas Sunstrider's Gold Coin x3&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sylvanas Windrunner's Gold Coin x7&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Teron's Gold Coin x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thrall's Gold Coin x1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Tirion Fordring's Gold Coin x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Uther Lightbringer's Gold Coin x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Gold: 57&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Trash:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Bent Fishing Hook x33&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Tattered Cloth x 9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Tangled Fishing Line x 12&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Weeds x 11&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Drowned Rat x 1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Driftwood x 13&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A Footman's Copper Coin x5&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Partially Eaten Fish x4&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sickly Fish x6&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Trash: 94&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fish:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sewer Carp x26&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Fountain Goldfish x 198&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Magic Eater x9&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Fish: 233&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Items:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Crystal Vial x2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total Items: 2&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total casts and catches with no failed casts: 595&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Total time spent fishing : 2 hours 47 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;With 56 gold coins i was able to keep the buff up for 1 hour 52 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Silver In The City achieved at 1 hour 35 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;A Penny For Your Thoughts achieved at 2 hours 31 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There's Gold In That There Fountain achieved at 2 hours 47 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The Coin Master achieved in 2 hours 47 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The last gold coin to catch was 'Kel'Thuzad's Gold Coin'.
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			<title>chiwa on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-10410</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jul 2011 05:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>chiwa</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have Salty, but got mine in the Kaluak derby, not STV. If a disticntion was made, it would not bother me. Make STV a Feat of Strength with another title. I may try it tomorrow. my realm had no winner in the kalu'ak derby yesterday.  maybe no more interest in fishing, and I can fish in peace. have to go fishing for real at 6am.
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			<title>Hells Angler on "Fishing Guild LF Members *Draka*"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-guild-lf-members-draka#post-9265</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 23:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Hells Angler</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;yea i know, created the guild before i decided to do fishing/cooking only and didnt wanna waste 3 bank tabs   :)
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			<title>Enarka on "Fishing Guild LF Members *Draka*"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-guild-lf-members-draka#post-9258</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 06:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Enarka</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Horde OutKast doesn't seem like much of a &#34;fishing&#34; guild name. Not that I'd care, but...
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			<title>Hells Angler on "Fishing Guild LF Members *Draka*"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-guild-lf-members-draka#post-9249</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 17:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Hells Angler</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;*Horde OutKast* *Draka Realm*&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;  *Is A New Guild Built To Support Avid Anglers and Their Quest For Complete Domination via Fishing! Designed To Make, Fish Farming, Fishing Achievements, Fishing Level and Fishing Quests, A Lot More Fun. We Also Specialized In Cooking/FirstAid Although Fishing Is Our Passion. We Remain Very Active In Our Persuit For Fishing Perfection...&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;gt;What We Have To Offer:&#60;br /&#62;
   -Officers Paid Salary!&#60;br /&#62;
   - Multiple Bank Tabs to Support Anglers/Chefs&#60;br /&#62;
   - All Cooking Recipes/Mats to Utilize Fish Farming&#60;br /&#62;
  - Sister Guild (OutKast Shadows) For Raid Support&#60;br /&#62;
  - Many Avid/Active Members To Help Answer Questions and Level Your Professions&#60;br /&#62;
  - Endless Gold and Resources To Ensure Domination&#60;br /&#62;
  - Guild Repair, Guild Bank, Guild Tabard, AddOns, Gold/Mats, Recipes, Fishing Gear, etc..&#60;br /&#62;
&#38;gt;Who We Are Recruiting:&#60;br /&#62;
  - Any Active WoW Angler (Alt or Main)&#60;br /&#62;
  -Looking For Helpful/Knowlegable Officers (Officers Paid 25g Salary, weekly)&#60;br /&#62;
  -Also Creating Alliance Based Sister Guild&#60;br /&#62;
  - Lower Level Members Recieve Same Benefits As Higher Ranks (Officers Excluded)&#60;br /&#62;
      ***If You Want To Join or Want More Info, PST or Mail &#34;OlyDub&#34; or &#34;Lolife&#34;on Draka***
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			<title>Dxtr on "How to solo The Lurker Above (Fish Lurker Below in SSC)"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jun 2010 11:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Dxtr</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just a tip, as an 80 hunter with mid level gear, I ran down to the first platform, jumped off, swam to the pipe on the left.  Jumped on the pipe, ran halfway up, feign death.  Then used my water walking pot thing.  Worked just fine for me
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			<title>roguedubb on "How to solo The Lurker Above (Fish Lurker Below in SSC)"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 10:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>roguedubb</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Easily done as an 80 DK:&#60;br /&#62;
Avoided the first pack.&#60;br /&#62;
Killed the big patrolling dude.&#60;br /&#62;
Jumped in the water as close as possible to the pipe on the right which comes out of the water.&#60;br /&#62;
Jumped up on to the pipe to make the bitey fishes go away.&#60;br /&#62;
Put on Path of Frost and strolled over to the fishing spot.&#60;br /&#62;
Summoned a Death Gate.&#60;br /&#62;
Started fishing.&#60;br /&#62;
Got achievement.&#60;br /&#62;
Exited via the Death Gate.
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			<title>rekra on "How to solo The Lurker Above (Fish Lurker Below in SSC)"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 03:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rekra</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I solo'd this as a level 71 today, I followed the video except i used an invisibility potion and jumped into the water, then used water walking potion and jumped to the surface. I was able to avoid dying because i used my hunter ability feign death as soon as i fished up the boss
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			<title>The Zerg on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-8115</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>The Zerg</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Salty...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Its really a title about dealing with multiple RNGs along with standard collecting, fishing for things and places you never would otherwise.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However they stuck in one achievement that is completely at odds with the theme of all the others: where people can interfere on a fixed schedule.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Adding the derby is more of a slap at people who enjoy/addicted fishing but find sunday is a bad day, since it is 99% lottery. If they really wanted to improve it while still keeping it &#34;exclusive&#34; a rotation varying the day and time would have been best. Yes, it would end up being during &#34;raid times&#34; or the middle of the night sometimes, but blocking out an hour every sunday not only has real life implications for many but has structured everything ingame to do the same.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For the record, I have 6 characters (with 8 STV wins, 1 derby) that would only need to grind for the title. Good luck claiming I am biased because I &#34;need&#34; this contest to finish :)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I don't think I will ever finish it on any of them though. They mostly fish as a part of doing other things, not sitting in old zones for days on end.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Salty...blah.
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			<title>Minivini on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-8021</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Minivini</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;The salty title shows you're litterally at one with the fishes, it's a shame some people won't be able to get it but the opportunity is there to remove the biggest fishing challenge in the game from the title would be a slap in the face of all those who have worked their ass off to get it.&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I completely agree with this statement.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Salty would be a massively lesser achievement if it did not include winning one of the derbies.     Personally I think it should be expanded to include a requirement for winning both competitions as well as Old Crafty, Ironjaw, turtle mount, and Giant Rat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm sorry but if you can't make a Sunday that's just too bad.  There is nothing wrong with having extremely difficult achievements that are not attainable for many, or most people.   I really hate the culture of handing everything to players on a plate and letting even the most inept complete all the things there are to achieve.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Salty means you have patience, above all else, but the inclusion of having to win one of the competitions means you have strategy as well.   For the Kala'uk derby, less so, that is a lot more luck than the STV competition, and it is for that reason that I chose to target the STV competition instead.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;There are many excellent suggestions for a strategy to win STV.   I did it on a very busy PvP server and I did it solo without any support from my guild or friends.   Knowing where to fish, how to fish, when to fish, how to avoid enemy faction players, how to avoid same faction competitors,  all of this is part of the achievement of winning this competition and taking that out of the equation simply reduces the title to a time-sink grind with absolutely no skill or experience involved.
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			<title>Swifteye on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Swifteye</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This is complete and utter &#34;QQing&#34; on my part, so feel free to disregard.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I will never be able to win the Extravaganza, at least not with my current job (which I don't see quitting anytime soon).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I NEVER get Sundays off, and I work graveyard shift. Moreover, my job is in the direct-care field. Meaning not only does it suck to go to work with not enough sleep (as it would with any job), it is DANGEROUS. How am I supposed to explain to a patient that I accidentally injured them while attempting to treat their wounds or assist with their rehab because I was sleepy due to being awake at 2pm (which is like 2*am* to me) trying to win a computerized fishing contest? &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I really, really wanted to get the Salty title for one of my toons, but I just don't see it happening. And it sucks to know that the only thing keeping me from it is the timing of the event.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Personally I would rather see them replace the contest requirement for &#34;Salty&#34; with a few of the rare catches that AREN'T part of the achievement. Heck, I WANT a reason to fish for the Giant Sewer Rat, and it'd be interesting to make people catch Old Crafty AND Old Ironjaw! Hanging out in an enemy city long enough to actually catch the one that isn't &#34;yours&#34; shows dedication to the sport, no?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Actually I was kinda irritated to learn Old Ironjaw WASN'T part of the title, AFTER I'd caught him (and it took forever, as you can imagine).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Ah well. I'm really bummed to know that I'll never get that title despite my love for fishing and all the work I've put into it, but I suppose Blizz has to do what Bzlizz has to do.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;*shrugs*
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			<title>Boost on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6968</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The tournament should grant its own title &#34;shady&#34; and not salty considering that is seemingly what you need to be to win nowadays. Has nothing to do with fishing anymore. Just my 2 cents.
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			<title>Weller on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6967</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Weller</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;i won it the second week it was announced ages back&#60;br /&#62;
and have won it three other times as well&#60;br /&#62;
just gotta do it every week&#60;br /&#62;
and not give up&#60;br /&#62;
sometimes things just will work your way&#60;br /&#62;
losing again and again and again, just makes it feel that much better when you finally do win&#60;br /&#62;
if its really that bad and winning is so important to you you could always just change servers or pay people to protect of you something.. although i've won it on two different servers, both pvp, and i can say that both of them took a whole bunch of sundays&#60;br /&#62;
skill can only take you so far with the tourney and fishing in general, at the end of the day, luck will always be a considerable factor of fishing&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;just don't be negative and convince yourself that you can never win, because you can, every week somebody wins, often times its not the person who has like five people protecting them trying to help win it, just some random person who got lucky with spots and few junk fish&#60;br /&#62;
just don't give up
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			<title>Shircon on "Extravaganza in Salty achievement?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6962</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Shircon</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;X-Rok &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6953&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Personally I'm in defense of keeping the Extravaganza in the Salty title requirement... Titles are supposed to be rare, this is one of the few that has a limiter on how many people can obtain it. Remove the Extravaganza, and Salty becomes a title you can AFK-click your way to obtaining.&#60;br /&#62;
Skill or luck, whatever you want to call it, it takes both. You need luck on your side for avoiding junk catches, having your bobber actually land in the pool, spawns of pools being nearby, and no competition in the area... You need skill to know where to stand to help your bobber land in the pool easier, to avoid the still-bugged pools that make you spend most of your time getting 'Water too shallow',  to know when to switch areas because of overcompetition...&#60;br /&#62;
It's actually one of the few consistently fun challenges left in this game, and I only get out there on time for it maybe every third week... Today I managed my 6th win in about 4 years... once before 2.0, one shortly after TBC came out, one right before and one right after 3.0, and one shortly after WotLK before I hit 80, plus today (Aug23). I like to call it... defending my Saltyness.&#60;br /&#62;
You wanna be Salty? You gotta outfish the competition. Salty is for the best of the best of us that ever hooked a Nightcrawler on our fishing line... Get fishing.&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Here here....i could not have put it better myself,its the only achievement that makes you truly earn it in my view....HUZZAH to you sir.
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