http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/tags/guide Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Tue, 14 Feb 2012 06:49:48 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/kaluak-fishing-derby-some-strategy-is-possible#post-8429 Mon, 24 May 2010 06:11:29 +0000 traconis 8429@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>When it says that the sharks like this pygmy suckerfish will the shark drop very quickly if you got<br /> 100 pygmy suckerfishes in the bag? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/kaluak-fishing-derby-some-strategy-is-possible#post-7699 Tue, 02 Feb 2010 00:19:53 +0000 Sabrieal 7699@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Been lurking here for a while but i thought i'd share my thoughts on the Kalu'ak Derby.<br /> Okay so after having no luck with the Fishing Lottery- I mean Derby so far (I haven't caught a single shark and fished the full hour in every contest so far^^) I've been looking at a few ways one COULD increase their chances of winning.</p> <p>A few factors that can affect chances of winning:<br /> How close are the pools you're fishing?<br /> How many other people are fishing those pools?</p> <p>These are the first two which spring to mind. But how about these:<br /> How far apart are everyone else's fishing pools?<br /> How MANY FISH are in their pools? ; )</p> <p>These last two are of interest to us because we CAN control them.<br /> How? Well although it involves spending a good few hours beforehand for relatively small gain, some form of "preparation" is possible. I've noted that people tend to stop fishing pools as much a couple of hours before the contest starts. Starting last week i have begun "forcing" pools into a close group. In Grizzly Hills I succeeded (after a good half hour) Of emptying most of the southern Imperial Manta Ray pools and filling most of the eastern ray schools.</p> <p>However, this week i'm going to try something else: fishing as many pools as i can to reduce the number of fish in each pool (apart from mine on the east coast : P) Effectively all one does is fish 2-3 catches out of each pool so that only 1 or 2 fish remain in each pool. The theory being that competitors will take longer travelling between useless pools while I catch the shark and win : D Obviously it's gonna take some time to go around every pool in Northrend, and sure some lucky randomer with a fishing skill of 23 may still get it on his first catch, but it has to help SOMEHOW!</p> <p>I'm not sure if some will view this as cheating, but I for one think this is perfectly acceptable : )</p> <p>What do you guys think? Too much effort for too little gain?</p> <p>Also still wearing max fishing gear out of paranoia incase the skill does have some affect on your chances. :P any proof of that yet?</p> <p>Anyways thanks for reading, sorry if post is a bit lengthly. Will let you know if i end up with some nice boots or a broken computer and a sore fist! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4464 Sat, 21 Feb 2009 18:54:19 +0000 GormanGhaste 4464@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I do think Winterspring should be mentioned as an option, at least--many people using the powerlevelling guide are already high level, not to mention the DKs who start out with the Everlook FP. For many higher level players, Winterspring is the faster option, considering travel time. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4415 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 05:35:14 +0000 Gummo 4415@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Azshara is pretty reasonable for a lower level who is patient enough to swim from northern Durotar along the far fatigue edge of the water to get to the bay. I've been fishing in the bay lately, and I have been getting a lot of darkclaw lobster (which sells very well). </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4406 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:34:26 +0000 Marlburo 4406@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Might I add that you can only catch a 103 Pound Mightfish/22 Pound Lobster in Azshara......couple bonus points to bay of storms in my book </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4383 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 02:02:48 +0000 Pipre 4383@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Guess I should do some fact checking next time! I could have sworn the Bay of Storms was the hardest place to fish in Old Azeroth. &gt;.&lt; </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4381 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 00:53:18 +0000 KenNashua 4381@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hmmm....maybe something has changed. I swam out a ways into Bay of Storms (to make sure I was away from the coast -- locationFu did say I was in Bay of Storms), and I was getting mostly trash fish -- Yellowfin, Rockscale, Firefin, regular Mightfish, Clams. After one lure of time, I had no Darkclaw Lobster or Large Raw Mightfish. Certainly could be bad luck... </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4370 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 13:15:43 +0000 el 4370@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Both Azshara Bay of Storms and Winterspring require 330 to cast, 425 to stop fish getting away. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4362 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 07:21:59 +0000 Pipre 4362@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I dunno El, running past all the Naga in Azshara at lvl 35 is still pretty daring.</p> <p>Another thing to keep in mind is that the Bay of Storms has a much higher fishing requirement than Winterspring. If you're leveling both at the same time you may need to spend some time in Winterspring to get your skill up high enough to fish there. Ignoring skill requirements though, Azshara really is a great place to get those last few cooking points. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4355 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:05:27 +0000 el 4355@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Based on my records: In <a href="/fish/?s=Azshara" title="Fish Finder - Azshara.">Azshara</a> Bay of Storms area, <a href="/fish/?s=Darkclaw Lobster" title="Fish Finder - Darkclaw Lobster.">Darkclaw Lobster</a> is 45% and <a href="/fish/?s=Large Raw Mightfish" title="Fish Finder - Large Raw Mightfish.">Large Raw Mightfish</a> is 5%, making 50% of the catch useful for leveling cooking. In <a href="/fish/?s=Winterspring" title="Fish Finder - Winterspring.">Winterspring</a>, <a href="/fish/?s=Raw Whitescale Salmon" title="Fish Finder - Raw Whitescale Salmon.">Raw Whitescale Salmon</a> averages only 40%. There are variations by time in both locations, but not for those fish.</p> <p>Those percentages are based on large sample sizes (over 700 catches in each area), so I'm fairly confident that Bay of Storms was the best option. I say "was", because I haven't re-checked that for several years.</p> <p>But there is a very important reason for avoiding Winterspring: The tunnel! That stage of the guide needs to work from level 35. It's simply not realistic to get a level 35 character into Winterspring without a lot of help. Azshara is much more forgiving. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/azshara-vs-winterspring-cookingfishing-285-300#post-4353 Tue, 10 Feb 2009 22:37:17 +0000 KenNashua 4353@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The fishing/cooking leveling guide seems to suggest Azshara is your best bet for getting to 300. However in my experience the drop rate is crummy. Why not instead advise people to head to Winterspring for 50%+ drop rate on Raw Whitescale Salmon for used in the Baked Salmon recipe? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3333 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:38:49 +0000 Lalkin 3333@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Quite true. The guide is complete and accurate except for the fish numbers. Could probbaly just not give fish caught numbers and instead just say at what skill you'll get on average. </p> <p>In my run through I pretty much turned every cooking recipe used grey with well over a hundred fish left over. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3253 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:48:57 +0000 el 3253@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>True. The number of catches required per skill-up point keeps on changing with each patch. I am fairly sure the current skill-up is bugged, since it makes no sense to increase the number of catches at low-level, just when the skill cap has been raised. I guess I should probably re-write the guide now. It shouldn't radically alter the overall strategy, just the number of fish caught. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3251 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:29:59 +0000 Lalkin 3251@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've just completed leveling cooking and fishing from 1 to 300 using your guide at <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fishing_and_cooking_horde.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elsanglin.com/fishing_and_cooking_horde.html</a></p> <p>The guide is great, however I consisitenly go way more fish per stage than the guide suggested. I believe it is because the rule of thumb about the number of caught fish per skill point is not accurate. For example from 290-300 I caught about 120 fish. From 290-298 it was about 9-10 fish per point and from 298-300 it was 13 fish and then 15 fish. This is just an example as it happened from about skill 150 on. </p> <p>Not a huge deal but thought perhaps more experimentation is needed to determine the actual fish per level instead of the at <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/role_of_skill.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elsanglin.com/role_of_skill.html</a></p> <p>Thanks for the guides they are great. Now that I'm at 300 I guess I need to level a bit more. (This is on my druid who is only 44.) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-038-cooking-guide-addenda#post-2919 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:24:27 +0000 el 2919@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Thanks donquixote235. Some useful additions there. Cooking trout through to 350 is certainly a neat strategy.</p> <p>I've been stalling on updating the pre-Northrend cooking/fishing guide because every patch seemed to change the number of catches required.</p> <p>Generally, the guide does not use Spice Bread because you need far more catches to leveling fishing than you need fish to cook: There is no need to use non-fish materials to level cooking. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-038-cooking-guide-addenda#post-2918 Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:34:21 +0000 donquixote235 2918@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Oh, another note: If you cook the Barbed Gill Trout, you can avoid fishing in Azshara with the exception of about five fish, to get your cooking skill up to 300. Once you have that you can run to your home city, cook your Lobster or whatever, cook your trout, and finish fishing from home until 350; this will let you get rested XP while you do this. This will also give you a chance to catch Crafty or Ironjaw while you level your fishing. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-038-cooking-guide-addenda#post-2904 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:28:11 +0000 donquixote235 2904@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've been working fishing and cooking together on my Death Knight, since Blizzard saw fit to start both skills at untrained. In the course of using the Fishing and Cooking guide, I've decided to make some notes that El may (or may not) want to incorporate into the guide. Keep in mind that I'm using the Horde version for the Azeroth portion.</p> <p>* When you pick up the Cooking skill, be sure to learn Spice Bread as well, and purchase 60 each of Simple Flour and Mild Spices, and make three stacks of the food. This will give you a cheap head-start on your Cooking (about 40 points), and add a total of about a minute to your overall time spent.</p> <p>* To save time, pick up your Expert Cooking and Fishing guides before you start, so that you don't have to take a break to get them. Also if you're Horde (particularly if you're also a Death Knight, since you're right there) swing by the Hinterlands and pick up Nat Pagle's Extreme Angler FC-5000 to keep in your inventory if you don't already have it; this will save you unnecessary trips later.</p> <p>* In the Horde portion of the guide, I found a part of Sun Rock Retreat in Stonetalon Mountains where the inn runs very close to the lake. If you stand in the right spot you can gain rested XP while fishing.</p> <p>* The inn at Freewind Post in Thousand Needles sells the cheese needed for the Artisan cooking quest, and it's directly in the flight path from Mudsprocket to Gadgetzan, so I would recommend picking it up there rather than in Desolace as the guide suggests... particularly if you picked up the Expert Cooking Guide already, which would eliminate traveling to Desolace at all (with the exception of the Artisan Fishing quest).</p> <p>* In the Outland portion of the guide, it states that you should vendor/ditch all the <a href="/fish/?s=Barbed Gill Trout" title="Fish Finder - Barbed Gill Trout.">Barbed Gill Trout</a>. I would recommend instead picking up the recipe for Blackened Trout, which can be trained at 300 and can be purchased from Gambarinka (Horde, Zabra'Jin) or Doba (Alliance, Orebor Harborage). This recipe will stay yellow until 320 and green until 340, and since you'll be fishing up about 200 of them, there's no reason not to use this recipe. Also at around 315 or 320 Cooking (I don't remember which) Kylene &lt;Barmaid&gt; at the World's End Tavern in Shattrath sells a Stewed Trout recipe which will get your cooking up to 335 (Yellow) / 355 (Green).</p> <p>That's as far as I've gotten; right now I'm just trying to get my Fishing and Cooking skills comparable to my level (I'm 67 now, so about 335 skill). </p>