http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/tags/leveling Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:27:13 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-and-cooking-1-450-part-2#post-7956 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:42:53 +0000 Mightfish 7956@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I think <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/fangtooth_herring_school.html" title="Fish Finder: Fangtooth Herring School.">Fangtooth Herring School</a> is a good choice(<a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/wintergrasp.html" title="Fish Finder: Wintergrasp.">Wintergrasp</a> is also a good choice), because you have the opportunity to catch <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/dark_herring.html" title="Fish Finder: Dark Herring." class="nocolor" rel="item=44703">Dark Herring</a> and the <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/sea_turtle.html" title="Fish Finder: Sea Turtle." class="nocolor" rel="item=46109">Sea Turtle</a>.</p> <p><a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/fangtooth_herring_school.html" title="Fish Finder: Fangtooth Herring School.">Fangtooth Herring School</a> at the same time, about 30 appear pools.<br /> (Reference:<a href="http://en.wowfishing.coms.hk/northrends-pools-distribution-map_en.html">Northrend Fishing Pools Distribution Map</a>.) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-and-cooking-1-450-part-2#post-7955 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:29:43 +0000 el 7955@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The logic is that you fish in <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/the_frozen_sea.html" title="Fish Finder: The Frozen Sea.">The Frozen Sea</a>, and catch fish for both <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/cuttlesteak.html" title="Fish Finder: Cuttlesteak." class="nocolor" rel="item=42998">Cuttlesteak</a> and <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/gigantic_feast.html" title="Fish Finder: Gigantic Feast." class="nocolor" rel="item=43478">Gigantic Feast</a>. That's a good balance, for smooth progression through to 450, because you aren't wasting too many non-junk catches. Of course you will catch slightly more junk, so I see that it might not feel that way.</p> <p>The reason it's like this is historic: It was a lot more important before patch 3.3, when very few recipes took you to 450 reliably, and most anglers would want to use a feast for the final 10-20 points of cooking. Even more important a year ago, when <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?search=Northern Spices" title="Wowhead - Northern Spices.">Northern Spices</a> were harder to buy. Although I rewrote the guide for 3.3, I probably should have changed the emphasis, so that The Frozen Sea is more clearly an option, rather than the recommended path: The "single dish" and Wintergrasp options are very viable, and will suit a lot of anglers.</p> <p>I suppose, right now, almost anywhere in Northrend is viable for those final few skill points, which inevitably makes a single method hard to agree on.</p> <p>Added: Looking back through the numbers, I'm inclined to agree with you - there really is no need for The Frozen Sea option now, particularly once we consider the hassle of finding the meat, buying extra recipes, and so forth. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll try and re-write it with the patch 3.3.3 update. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-and-cooking-1-450-part-2#post-7954 Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:12:08 +0000 lennywatts 7954@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Love you, love your show!</p> <p>I'm curious why you recommend Cuttlefish as the recipe of choice for cooking 400+?<br /> It's about the hardest fish to get to / find. The rest of the guide did me ever so well, but after figuring out the situation I spent more awards and bought the Imperial Manta Steak recipe to finish out my cooking. Also, the single-recipe method was so close to perfect efficiency (less than 10 "wasted" (2 cast per skill point) that the gigantic feast method seems completely unnecessary.<br /> Thanks! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/leveling-fishing#post-5943 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:01:45 +0000 el 5943@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I tested this on the Public Test Realms, by leveling up in a low-skill and high-skill area... and I did not find any difference in the average number of catches required to gain a skill point. It is possible it changed late during testing, but I have no evidence of that.</p> <p>Keep in mind that skill-ups are somewhat random, so beware of anyone that tells you "in one place it took 3 catches to gain a skill point, and in another place it took 5". That randomness happens everywhere. You need a lot of catches to average the randomness out. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/leveling-fishing#post-5942 Wed, 29 Apr 2009 19:24:32 +0000 caspian 5942@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I was talking with my Dad today about leveling his fishing. He was saying he was finally going to do it because he had heard that, with the 3.1 patch, if you fish in areas that are "Fishing Skill Appropriate" you will gain skill points faster.</p> <p>So while it would be nice for him to level his fishing so I don't have to catch his Dragon Fin for him anymore I don't think what he heard is correct.</p> <p>I have not been able to find any evidence of this at all. I have been through the patch notes and forums here and on the main WoW boards with nothing close to that being stated. </p> <p>Has anyone here heard of that or, more importantly seen any evidence of it?</p> <p>I think it is likely that he is reading this statement from the patch notes and seeing what he wants to see.</p> <blockquote><p>Every catch has the potential for fishing skill gains</p></blockquote> <p>That in conjunction with the fact that every cast is a catch and the shortened timer is what will speed up leveling fishing but that where you fish has nothing to do with how fast you level. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/not-digging-the-new-guides#post-5710 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 09:08:43 +0000 el 5710@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for the comment, Astrelle.</p> <p>The source of all the recipes used <em>should</em> be shown, but I'll add a single reference list.</p> <p>The guide is intended for power-leveling, so is optimised to reduce travel time. Hence the Horde guide spends a lot of time visiting a few zones very close to the Undercity.</p> <p>But I know that it is used at lower level, so try to find a method that is still useful. This has become much harder to write with patch 3.1, because the places fish can be caught still scale up with level, yet only level 10 is required to catch and cook (almost) everything.</p> <p><a href="/fish/?s=Feralas" title="Fish Finder - Feralas.">Feralas</a> certainly can be used as an alternative to the <a href="/fish/?s=Western Plaguelands" title="Fish Finder - Western Plaguelands.">Western Plaguelands</a>, but it isn't terribly suitable for those at low level. I guess mid-level Horde have a specific problem getting through the Bulwark. The Alliance guide gives the option of traveling up from <a href="/fish/?s=Hillsbrad Foothills" title="Fish Finder - Hillsbrad Foothills.">Hillsbrad Foothills</a>, which is safe at about level 20+, so I'll add that to the low-level suggestions.</p> <p>Now the <a href="/fish/?s=Eastern Plaguelands" title="Fish Finder - Eastern Plaguelands.">Eastern Plaguelands</a> are a real problem at low level, but so is ever similar zone. For example, the only part of Feralas with the same fish is Jademir Lake, which is surrounded by level 60-ish elites. I think the best suggestion for low-level Horde is to swim up to the Bay of Storms in <a href="/fish/?s=Azshara" title="Fish Finder - Azshara.">Azshara</a>.</p> <p>Any other thoughts from others that have tried using the leveling guides? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/not-digging-the-new-guides#post-5703 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 02:31:35 +0000 Astrelle 5703@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I don't really like the new guides, particularly the fishing/cooking one. One of the things I liked about the guide was it told us were all the recipes are... no more. There seem to be a lot of recipes not told where they are (atleast in the horde guide.)</p> <p>And why go to Plaguelands? Ferelas doesn't have the day/night fishes anymore? Lowbee anglers certainly can't fish there. I guess the guides are more for people that are 80. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3333 Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:38:49 +0000 Lalkin 3333@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Quite true. The guide is complete and accurate except for the fish numbers. Could probbaly just not give fish caught numbers and instead just say at what skill you'll get on average. </p> <p>In my run through I pretty much turned every cooking recipe used grey with well over a hundred fish left over. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3253 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:48:57 +0000 el 3253@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>True. The number of catches required per skill-up point keeps on changing with each patch. I am fairly sure the current skill-up is bugged, since it makes no sense to increase the number of catches at low-level, just when the skill cap has been raised. I guess I should probably re-write the guide now. It shouldn't radically alter the overall strategy, just the number of fish caught. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/feedback-on-fishing-guide#post-3251 Fri, 05 Dec 2008 23:29:59 +0000 Lalkin 3251@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've just completed leveling cooking and fishing from 1 to 300 using your guide at <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fishing_and_cooking_horde.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elsanglin.com/fishing_and_cooking_horde.html</a></p> <p>The guide is great, however I consisitenly go way more fish per stage than the guide suggested. I believe it is because the rule of thumb about the number of caught fish per skill point is not accurate. For example from 290-300 I caught about 120 fish. From 290-298 it was about 9-10 fish per point and from 298-300 it was 13 fish and then 15 fish. This is just an example as it happened from about skill 150 on. </p> <p>Not a huge deal but thought perhaps more experimentation is needed to determine the actual fish per level instead of the at <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/role_of_skill.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elsanglin.com/role_of_skill.html</a></p> <p>Thanks for the guides they are great. Now that I'm at 300 I guess I need to level a bit more. (This is on my druid who is only 44.) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2692 Sat, 15 Nov 2008 03:27:19 +0000 espiru 2692@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The thank you very much again.</p> <p>Thanks to this information and about 5 hours of fishing to win the test of strength in the server EU-Minahonda</p> <p><a href="http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5499/wowscrnshot111308030727om1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/5499/wowscrnshot111308030727om1.jpg</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2626 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:44:42 +0000 Csirke4 2626@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Oh and btw I was fishing in Darnassus, and just before the server restart my last cast gave me The 1 Ring. :)</p> <p>Also completed the 500 fish achievement around that time but when I logged back I lost like 70 fish from it. (But didn't take the ach points away and could still progress in the 1000 fish.) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2625 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:59:18 +0000 Chrisser 2625@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111308050401xm8.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=wowscrnshot111308050401xm8.jpg</a> </p> <p>i got the feat of strength on my server - took me just under 4 hours as i started around 1.15 </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2624 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 14:48:03 +0000 Scrimshaw 2624@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won it this morning! (Even after missing a few cats due to dozing off)</p> <p>Fishcake: Ysera. 05:35</p> <p>So it announces it to the other Faction with just a name (just like the fishing tourney)</p> <p>You can tell it is in your faction or not by trying to send a /whisper (or 'who) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2611 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:45:31 +0000 Yoco 2611@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Grats all who got the feat!</p> <p><cite>Csirke4 <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2608" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>At 5:54 Csikre won on Stormrage (EU) yay. lol</p></blockquote> <p>Stormrage EU? I guess that means I don't need to spend effort on my alliance characters to get the feat - they happen to be on that realm. Not that I was planning to shoot for it anyway :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2608 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 05:03:58 +0000 Csirke4 2608@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>At 5:54 Csirke won on Stormrage (EU) yay. lol </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2607 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:59:11 +0000 Csirke4 2607@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>But only one of you got the Feast of Strength done?:( </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450/page/2#post-2606 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:55:08 +0000 el 2606@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>It is announced to other factions - in my case, El is Alliance, Finbarr was Horde. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450#post-2605 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:35:06 +0000 Csirke4 2605@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Maybe make an alt and ask ppl around in the other faction, and before I forget... GRATZ! =) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450#post-2604 Thu, 13 Nov 2008 02:19:54 +0000 Airwave 2604@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450#post-2602" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Congratulations. Finbarr just gained it on Ravenholdt (EU). I presume you gained the Feat of Strength?</p></blockquote> <p>Yes, I did gain the Feat of Strength.</p> <p><cite>Csirke4 <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-power-leving-grom-375-to-450#post-2603" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>It also announces on the other faction?</p></blockquote> <p>Good question, I don't know. </p>