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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Tag: old crafty - Recent Posts</title>
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			<title>rolanda on "A brief overview of getting to Salty"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/a-brief-overview-of-getting-to-salty#post-7564</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 06:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rolanda</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I took my level 15 Draenei shaman to Iron forge and got Old Ironjaw in 25 casts. I was very surprised and exited, and when I went to brag to one of my WoW friends they said, what is Old Ironjaw? XD
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			<title>Snafu on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7284</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Snafu</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, to add my two cents...the Valley of Honor is a much better place to fish than The Valley of Spirits. I fished the Valley of Spirits pool for awhile, but was eventually ganked. It wasn't a bad spot, really...I've caught about 300 fish there in previous attempts but I wanted to give the other place a try.  I went to the Valley of Honor waterfall during &#34;off-hours&#34; without any problem. I'm a lvl 80 ret pally, and I entered through the western gate. Just saddle up and go for it. I stayed there for a few hours over a couple of days, logging in and out when I had the time to play. I always used Elixer of Camouflage, and so the Hunters couldn't track me. I also used  Blackened Worg Steak which allows you to track humanoids; I liked watching the traffic go by me on the minimap. No one touched me there, although I do think a lvl 80 orc saw me. (Thank you from a fellow fisherman.) He was fishing too and may have heard my bobber. I couldn't hear his (and I tried to) but being under the waterfall may have been the reason why. Just for the sake of posterity, and since it seems that there are people who are into this sort of thing, here's what I caught this time around:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Longjaw Mud Snapper: 530&#60;br /&#62;
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 211&#60;br /&#62;
Brilliant Smallfish: 146&#60;br /&#62;
17 pound Catfish: 4&#60;br /&#62;
Lesser healing potion: 3&#60;br /&#62;
Bloated Mud Snapper: 2&#60;br /&#62;
Infantry Tunic of the Monkey: 1&#60;br /&#62;
Short Bastard Sword of the Monkey: 1&#60;br /&#62;
The One Ring: 1&#60;br /&#62;
Old Crafty: 1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For a total of 900 casts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It may not be as easy for others to get to the waterfall as it was for me, but it's worth it if you're planning on staying there for a while. I swore I wasn't going to leave until I caught the bugger, so I'd have kept on fighting and/or corpse hopping my way in if I'd had to.
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			<title>Pipre on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7156</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Pipre</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;NineTailedFox &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-3843&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Okay, so I came up with an easy way to do this - if you can wait until you are in Northrend and complete the quest chain that leads to the cinematic in Dragonblight, then you get a quest as Alliance to report back to Stormwind.  That gives you the Fate, Up Against Your Will quest.  This creates a portal to Orgrimmar.  BUT, this Orgrimmar appears to be a separate Orgrimmar from the one with Horde in it- so it isn't your server's Orgrimmar!  There are NO horde there and the guards do NOT attack you!  So you can fish all you want!&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This method no longer works.
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			<title>blackdragonchjt on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7151</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Sorry peeps, on the 17th cast and i got old crafty.
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			<title>ClemSnide on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar/page/2#post-7087</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ClemSnide</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Phased Orgrimmar has evidently changed a great deal. For one thing, when I first logged the quest and saw that I was in Org without aggro, the first thing I thought was &#34;Hey! Now I can fish up Ol' Crafty!&#34; (I had gotten Fishing Diplomat long ago.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At that time I did knock off Ragefire Chasm, and had Saunders logged in PhOrg for the longest time, racking up cast after cast-- 1500 by my tick-mark count of stacks of fish thrown away. Then I hearthstoned, intending to return at some future date and get that dang rare fish. (I tried the Crocolisks in the City trick, but it didn't work; although I could catch Ol' Crafty, he was unlootable.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now, I file a lot of reports. Goldspammers, deadvertisers, bugs, etc.; and I'm polite about it, so when I interact with a GM, it's a decent experience. I filed one a little while ago, chatted with the replying GM, and was told that there is now no fishing in PhOrg. I went in with another chara and the GM was right. I could also not get into RFC. I'd further suspect that the Elders don't show up there, or if they do are nonresponsive.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Moral: If you find something like this, drop erverything and do it with all your charas, because you never know when it'll go away.
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			<title>Narinae on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar/page/2#post-7085</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Narinae</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Odd, I tried to get into Ragefire when I was in phased Org months ago but couldn't get in.  (I don't remember whether it gave me some kind of message or if the portal was just inert.)  That's great for Alliance though :)
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			<title>jothman on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>jothman</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You can complete Fishing Diplomat in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I did it as of Sep 13, 2009 patch 3.2.0 (10314)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Obtain quest &#34;Fate, Up Against Your Will&#34; to enable you to enter phased Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
Obtain Stratholme daily fishing quest &#34;Crocolisks In The City&#34;.&#60;br /&#62;
Go to Orgrimmar and fish.  Your loot window will show empty for each cast UNTIL you catch the baby crocolisk.  The baby crocolosk will show as a &#34;normal&#34; catch and when you loot it, you will receive the achievement Fishing Diplomat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Note:&#60;br /&#62;
I have fished in phased Orgrimmer both with and without the Crocolisk iIn The City quest in my log.&#60;br /&#62;
My loot window always came up empty except when I caught the baby crocolisk.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I fished maybe 100 casts and did not see hide nor hair of Old Crafty.  Everyone says you can not catch him in phased Orgrimmar, but since I got Fishing Diplomat I wonder.  I have seen no official Blue pronouncement that you can not catch Old Crafty in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BTW, I was able to complete the following two other achievements in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
Explore the entire Durotar zone - leave and enter Orgrimmar by south entrance.&#60;br /&#62;
Ragefire Chasm instance&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good Fishin' to you
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			<title>bombcar on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7072</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bombcar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, I got it. Only about 150 casts, too, and I died once.
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			<title>Patience on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7023</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Got really lucky on Old Crafty. Fished in the Valley of Spirits, hiding behind the big rock there. Didn't have Fishing Buddy at the time so I just had my stopwatch on. Caught him in under 16 minutes, roughly 50 catches. I think it took me longer to get into place to start fishing than it took actually catching him. Was level 30 at the time.
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			<title>stormbear on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7022</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>stormbear</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I had Croc in the City, with a Croc in my bag and snagged Old Crafty within 100 casts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I started fishing him up around midnight Eastern and got it within an hour. Got ganked twice and one ganker got an achievement - &#34;Defender of the City.&#34;
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			<title>Parasitic on "Fishing ol crafty old crafty"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-ol-crafty-old-crafty#post-6982</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 18:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Parasitic</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Caught Old Crafty today, on the 38th cast. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Was using/wearing the following when I caught him:&#60;br /&#62;
Weather Beaten Fishing Hat&#60;br /&#62;
Jeweled Fishing Pole&#60;br /&#62;
No lure&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hope this helps! and I hope I get this lucky on Old Ironjaw :(
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			<title>Narinae on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Narinae</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Are you sure it was phased, Usagija?  You can't enter Ragefire Chasm from phased Org - or at least you couldn't when I was there 4 months ago.
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			<title>foneldar on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar#post-6909</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>foneldar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Since the last patch you have to complete the Battle for the Undercity quest line in order to fish in Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
I tried picking up the Shattrath City Crocolisk daily but it no longer works.&#60;br /&#62;
This was confirmed by a GM this morning.
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			<title>Usagija on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar#post-6842</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Usagija</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It DOES work. I am proof! I caught Old Crafty in 7 casts while it was phased at max fishing, no lures. My boyfriend was also there to witness because I was slightly disappointed in how easy it was. I could have just logged there. I then proceeded to do the Ragefire Chasm achievement just because I didn't want to waste the opportunity.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Strange, like francislam44 I caught it 04/09/09, maybe it was bugged? But Crocolisks in the City was not the daily for that day.
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			<title>Usagija on "Old Crafty is now teasing me"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-is-now-teasing-me#post-6839</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Usagija</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I used the quest that ports you to an uninhabited Ogrimmar, so it was slightly unsettling to be the only person in a capital city, even if it is horde at that. I caught Craft in 7 casts. I was so geared up to just stay there all day too what with everyone else's luck. GL to everyone else in the future!
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			<title>oxman112 on "Old Crafty is now teasing me"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-is-now-teasing-me#post-6775</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2009 06:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>oxman112</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;600 + casts later, finally just got him. Gave the random guy fishing next to me 50g cause I was so happy.
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			<title>suutar on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar#post-6348</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>suutar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I tried this last night. I got the port to phased Org, watched the scripted conversation, and then before turning in the quest step I ran out to try to fish. I could cast, and the bobber would jump, but when I clicked, I got no fish and no message. I did get a skillup, though. *sigh* Oh well.
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			<title>anakhahawk on "Fishing ol crafty old crafty"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-ol-crafty-old-crafty#post-6070</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 07:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>anakhahawk</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Caught Old Crafty last night. I've only been fishing for him if i've ported to check the AH and my hearth stone is still on CD. Last night I was ready to port back and decided i'd cast one last time. Up he pops :)
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			<title>Kessira on "Orgrimmar fishing?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/orgrimmar-fishing#post-5838</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kessira</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;So what are we Alliance players supposed to do?  Just suffer?  Why even bother having an achievement if we can't get it?  Grrrr......&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just got a note in my game mailbox that said they'd responded to my email account.  I've checked several times, no email.  Not real happy about that.  I'll continue to post as I get more info.
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			<title>Neh on "Orgrimmar fishing?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/orgrimmar-fishing#post-5800</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Neh</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi,&#60;br /&#62;
I have been fishing there for 2 weeks, finally opened a ticket. Spoke to a GM today, apparently it's bugged and ONLY horde can catch Old Crafty.
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