http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/tags/patch-24 Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:57:54 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/daily-quest-fish-catch-rates-data-wanted#post-361 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:34:21 +0000 el 361@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>4 of the 5 new <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/daily_fishing_quests.html">daily fishing quests</a> require catching a special quest-only fish. The catch rates for these fish are very variable. I'd like to gather reliable data about how many catches each quest fish takes. In the <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies">PTR thread</a> we saw that even with the equivalent of months' worth of data from one character, the pattern wasn't clear. This isn't something I can do alone, nor is it information that the database sites will collect correctly.</p> <p>So, I'd like you to please:</p> <p><strong>Count the number of catches from starting to fish for the quest fish, to catching the quest fish.</strong> If you caught 7 non-quest fish, and then the 8th catch was the quest fish, record 8 against the quest.</p> <p><strong>Please post data in this thread using the following format:</p> <p>Away:<br /> Bait:<br /> Crocs:<br /> Felblood: </strong></p> <p>Here's an example:</p> <p>Away: 10,12<br /> Bait: 1,32,15<br /> Crocs: 3<br /> Felblood: </p> <p>The first line, "Away", is for The One That Got Away. The two numbers mean that you recorded the quest twice, the first time got World's Largest Mudfish on the 10th catch, the second on the 12th catch. Put a comma between numbers. So Bait Bandits ("Bait") was done 3 times, with the <a href="/fish/?s=Blackfin Darter" title="Fish Finder - Blackfin Darter.">Blackfin Darter</a> caught on the 1st, 32nd, and 15th catch. Crocolisks in the City ("Crocs") was only done once (3rd catch), Felblood Fillet ("Felblood") wasn't completed.</p> <p>Please:</p> <ul> <li>Only record results for catches that are in the <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/daily_fishing_quests.html">correct location</a> (open water, not pools) when the quest is active: Only submit catch rates if you are sure it is reliable.</li> <li>Don't record anything for Shrimpin' Ain't Easy - the catch rate from that is well understood.</li> <li>Wait until you have done more than a few quests before posting data - ideally post sets every few weeks.</li> <li>If you post several times <strong>do not post the same data again!</strong> Start a fresh template for each post.</li> </ul> <p>I'm curious about the catch rate, and I'm hoping enough other people will be to record and post their numbers. This first post will be used to summarise data posted. I'll update it from time to time - don't be concerned if updates don't happen immediately. Any questions or comments can be posted in here to.</p> <p><strong>Current Results (to 25 June 2008):</strong></p> <blockquote><p><strong>Value/Quest … Away … Bait … Crocs … Felblood</strong><br /> Sample ………...… 172 ..… 170 ….. 203 ..… 179<br /> Maximum ……....… 53 ….. 59 ..… 110 ..… 41<br /> Mean (Average) ... 10.1 … 10.5 … 9.9 … 7.5<br /> Median (Middle) … 7.5 … 7 … 7 … 4<br /> Std Dev ……......… 8.9 … 10.2 … 11.5 … 7.6</p></blockquote> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/24-change-to-skill-up-rate#post-364 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 22:54:51 +0000 el 364@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>There's a comment at <a href="http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/03/26/undocumented-changes-so-far-in-patch-2-4/2#c11266996">WoWInsider</a> by nearlysober :</p> <blockquote><p>"Takes less casts to skillup fishing. At about 260 it was taking me 10+ casts per skillup, after the patch it's taking about 6 casts."</p></blockquote> <p>I don't trust the first number (10+ at 260), so I'm not at all sure I trust the second: The classic <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/role_of_skill.html">Noressa/Highlander/Ardeaem/Tedeum data</a> suggest about 8 catches per point. Plus the poster states "casts", and casts have never been what determines skill gains (unless all your casts are catches).</p> <p>Unfortunately changes to the skill-up formulae are a real pain to test ;-) . Does anyone have any reliable information on this? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/bop-popup-gui-gone-for-extravaganza-rare-fish#post-376 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 20:55:20 +0000 Crotalidus 376@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hail! I caught not one by TWO Brownell's Blue Striped Racers in today's STV contest...my second and third pairs of Boots (and no Line yet, sigh). Anyway, the "Looting will Bind" dialog box didn't show for either of the Racers, the fish just went right into inventory via Auto-Loot without a fuss. It looks like they decided to get rid of that in the patch.</p> <p>Crotalidus </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/grey-item-in-fishing-treasure-bag#post-371 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 07:48:19 +0000 hurricane567 371@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>...Piece of Polished Driftwood will vendor for 1.5G </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/more-24-details#post-357 Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:32:17 +0000 Gummo 357@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Someone said in alt.games.warcraft that their alt could do the baby croc quest (I assume level 70) even though that alt hadn't fished before, getting their skill from 1 to 20 doing that quest, so there's no fishing skill minimum.</p> <p>There is still an invisible wall preventing swimmers from reaching Sunwell Isle; this might be worth mentioning to any below-70 fishers thinking of going there. I don't know if players below 70 will be able to use the portal to Sunwell Isle that will spawn in Shattrath after the required number of Sunwell dailies are completed by players in the realm. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-journal-in-24#post-347 Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:47:35 +0000 Kylkiluut 347@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I'm wondering if the 2.4 patch will have any effect on looting the Weatherbound Journal.</p> <p>Here are some relevant patch notes:</p> <p>- When looting Bind on Pickup items, the confirmation dialogue now lists the name of the item in the dialogue. You can now verify that you are picking up the correct bind on pickup item.<br /> - Bind on Pickup items that only you can pick up (Heroic Badges for instance) will no longer bring up a confirmation dialogue. </p> <p>Doesn't really address items that you cannot pick up but perhaps it does change that. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/higher-fishing-level#post-351 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 12:50:58 +0000 lyrabelacqua 351@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I used to fish where the new questgiver is at Lake Silmyr in Terrokar with just a bright bauble and have no getaways. Now I cannot cast--was the fishing level increased? Just Lake Silmyr? (I'm currently at 353 in fishing gear and no lure). </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-clicking-changed-in-24#post-350 Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:57:17 +0000 Trokair 350@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I noticed last night that sometimes when I would click my fishing bobber, right as it would bob, nothing would happen. I wouldn't catch a fish, and I wouldn't get the "your fish has got away" message.</p> <p>Has anyone else noticed this? Is it something they changed? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies#post-66 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 20:53:39 +0000 Calixa 66@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>So who is excited about the daily fishing quests coming soon? I know I am! I'm on my fourth 375 angler and another daily is a good source of cash and fun when I am not trying to catch Mr Pinchy. :)</p> <p>Anyone heard when the patch is coming? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/silmyr-lake-drained-for-guild-housing#post-198 Mon, 25 Feb 2008 03:58:44 +0000 Gummo 198@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>At least, that's my theory on what's going on in the PTR:</p> <p><a href="http://www.visi.com/~westley/silmyr_lake.jpg">http://www.visi.com/~westley/silmyr_lake.jpg</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-2-ring#post-140 Sat, 16 Feb 2008 13:57:42 +0000 el 140@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34837">The 2 Ring</a> has just appeared on Wowhead. +22 to all stats, requiring level 70. Since <a href="/fish/?s=The 1 Ring" title="Fish Finder - The 1 Ring.">The 1 Ring</a> is caught by fishing, some might deduce The 2 Ring is too.</p> <p>Any source known? Neither MMO-Champion or World of Raids have it listed, which tends to suggest it isn't dungeon loot.</p> <p>Edit: <a href="http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/images/news/2008/february/the2ring.jpg">MMO-Champion has a picture</a>, but I still can't find the source. </p>