http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ El's Extreme Anglin' Forums Tag: Suggestions en Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:38:06 +0000 http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-424 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:39:45 +0000 Longhunter 424@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>when i fish i go for the gold, i use everything i have. the blue bibs, fingerless gloves, boots and look the part. my guild goes crazy over me when i pull it out in ssc i get a round of /clap and /hug ppl, like that they can do something other then just the norm, and i think fishing hit it. the sad thing is i think blizz did this little bit of fishing stuff just to shut us up. i dont think we will see anything for some time, Sad really </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-420 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 14:11:40 +0000 Trokair 420@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I would like to see epic fishing gear added in the new WotLK expansion.</p> <p>I love my Arcanite Fishing Pole (blue), my Fishing Boots (green)... but as an all-epiced-out toon... I want an epic pole, epic boots, etc, for fishing. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-416 Wed, 02 Apr 2008 00:35:08 +0000 Oberweiss 416@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I agree that the recent additions lack the micromanagement the pre-BC fishing had.</p> <p>To further the saltwater/freshwater issue, one would presume that all water in Outlands is freshwater. However, the term <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brackish_water">Brackish</a> means a mix of freshwater and saltwater. Additionally, all real <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etheostoma">darter</a> fish can only survive in freshwater. So, the fact that you can catch <a href="/fish/?s=Golden Darter" title="Fish Finder - Golden Darter.">Golden Darter</a> from Brackish Mixed Schools in Outlands doesn't work biologically.</p> <p>I loved how Azerothian fish used to stick strictly to the freshwater/saltwater division (aside from the Oily Blackmouth, at least). I thought it was very creative that the time of day affected what fish you caught, although it could be frustrating at times. While the rewards of fishing have increased, the little details that made fishing interesting have dissipated. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-413 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:36:15 +0000 el 413@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I tend to refrain from expressing my opinions here. But.</p> <p><strong>If I could add anything it would be Blizzard's much famed attention to detail to their recent implementations of fishing.</strong></p> <p>In particular, I'd revisit the TBC starting zones. Not least because poor newbie experiences hurt the playerbase long-term.</p> <p>Take the Draenai starting area: Your first introduction to fishing is to a method of pool fishing (the net) that is completely different to the method you need for every other catch. How confusing is that to a new level 5 player? Then the freshwater/saltwater split found everywhere else is needlessly broken on <a href="/fish/?s=Azuremyst Isle" title="Fish Finder - Azuremyst Isle.">Azuremyst Isle</a>. And if you do catch anything, you have to travel out of the Draenai islands just to purchase the recipe you need to cook the fish. Which your average new player is never going to figure out on their own.</p> <p>But this isn't just a newbie issue. Patch 2.4 contains plenty of examples of lack of polish.</p> <p>The most exciting catch from <a href="/fish/?s=Isle of Quel'Danas" title="Fish Finder - Isle of Quel'Danas.">Isle of Quel'Danas</a> is a fish that functions exactly like a level 22 mana potion, but requires a level 70 character with 8+ hours of skill development to catch it. Go figure. And some of the daily fishing quest descriptions have been causing tangible frustration for a lot of players over the last week: The Nagrand "lakes" that don't actually include all the lakes, or the Terokkar "moving water" that does include Cenarion Thicket.</p> <p>On the plus side we are at least seeing some development time being put into fishing, which hasn't occurred since summer 2006 (early TBC beta). So maybe there are better times ahead? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-411 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 21:09:02 +0000 Petre 411@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I would like to see a fishing contest more like ones in real life. For example, a contest where you win by catching the largest fish of some type. Fish drops could be like the 17 pound longjaw, and whoever catches the largest before its over wins.<br /> I'm seriously down for a competition that rewards gold and loot, so that I have an incentive to keep doingit unlike the current one.</p> <p>I would love to see a fishing reward that was a recipe for making some sort of lure. For example: gather a bunch of 'worthless' Outland fish (feltails anyone?) and use the recipe to turn them into 'chum' which would let you catch giant crawdads or other fish that would give an added bonus like 40 stam or spell damage and crit. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-409 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 18:40:12 +0000 Longhunter 409@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>it would be sweet if "fishing buddy" worked with the new hooks and the hat if you get it, a Freind got it the very first day but nothing since and i have not gotten anything yet thats great other then i caught Mr. Pinchey!!!! </p> <p>more rare fish would be sweet and add another fishing contest in Nagrand or something </p> <p>A tackle box Bag slot is a good idea i have a 18 slot just for my fishing stuff now. cant fish with out the fishing chair, lol </p> <p>Longhunter </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-400 Tue, 01 Apr 2008 10:59:32 +0000 heraklen 400@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Well first of all since Im not a Fan of the fishing contest or any fishing related bonus that requires you to do an event at an specific time.<br /> Even Mr Pinchy is not well done since it only comes from the special pools , however it can be overcome with fishing at odd times. </p> <p>Thus I favor rewards with low droprate like Old Crafy / Ironjaw </p> <p>Itemvise , well Fishing-net and some new fishing rods with cool glow/effects ...<br /> Maybe even fishing pants with inflatable raft built in so you can fish out in the water :-) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/stuff-you-would-like-to-see-added-related-to-fishing-of-course#post-395 Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:23:35 +0000 Kylkiluut 395@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>How about "Waders"?</p> <p>Not to add to fishing skill but perhaps to add the ability to Fish while you were in slightly deeper water. This might make it easier to fish some of those really awkward holes.</p> <p>How about "Gubber Blump's Super Nepp HiVelocity Reel"? (binds to fishing pole) Allows for longer and more accurate casts but maybe not so good for shorter, closer holes. Now you might have different poles for different occasions.</p> <p>And, as long as we're dreaming, how about fly-fishing and fly poles? That would be awesome.</p> <p>Any other ideas? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-125 Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:14:15 +0000 Stephenn 125@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hmmmm WowJutsu for fishing. I like it. Who's won the extravaganza, who's caught Mr. Pinchy, who's caught Old Ironjaw? In all of the Realms who has completed the most epic fishing events? That person could be known far and wide as the Iron Angler! LOL (Yes, I'm a huge Iron Chef fan!)</p> <p>As for data gathering, I'm wondering if there is a way to log fishing information sort of like the Combat Log records fighting information? Maybe a small addon that scans fishing events and then writes it to a log file. Then they could be uploaded in a similar way to how WowWebStats does it. (http://www.wowwebstats.com)</p> <p>You're right though it would be much easier for the Fishing Buddy addon to collect the data and the user could opt to send it or not. Either way I think it would have to be a manual upload or uploaded by a separate program.</p> <p>I'd love to see that kind of data collected and put into nice shiny reports.</p> <p>How about WowHead style tooltips for fish that reflect your data and link back to your fish database? I know that I would use something like that on my blog. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-78 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 00:41:28 +0000 taisai 78@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>point one, how do you want to get your name out.<br /> we can each do little things in game but first i wonder if such publicity as i first tried to suggest would be taken correctly.</p> <p>point two, a page on the website to help us input information, in the format above, is something that may prove helpful over just the forums, although this is also a dismissable plan. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-77 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:18:21 +0000 el 77@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've (hopefully) fixed the issue of text progressively drifting to one side in Internet Explorer 6. Thanks for telling me about it.</p> <p>I didn't really understand your other points. Perhaps you could explain them in more detail? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-74 Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:38:01 +0000 taisai 74@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>well ah say theres no reason to think small, this sounds like ah promisin' development; however i feel there may be two other things to take into consideration. advertisement and input.</p> <p>nae, im no newsie, but i think that those interested in taking up an attempt might be able to make an influence by trying the life of a newsie in game, by manipulation of the mail system to create notes.</p> <p> (until they allow postboard creation, which i dont forsee.. but thats the idea of them making a item that has a text area and you can drop it like a totem once every 10 mins or hours... and others can rclick to read...never mind that though)<br /> otherwise, do yae have some other strong ways of increasing the site attendance? do yeh think that this would be a good thing or bad for the sites popularity? </p> <p>also, back to the input request, a web-based form might be a nice addition. i mean like -<br /> title<br /> type of input (new fish)(new fishing site)(new loot)(bug)(changed difficulty)(theory)(suggestion)<br /> textarea</p> <p>require sign in and a higher than base rank to suit to keep spammers low, perhaps?</p> <p>ach, and there seems to be a problem with the text in the forums, it moves further beyond the left and and right sides each new post... </p> <p>I'm usin' IE, 6.0.2900, its not awful but it is annoyin and something to take note of. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-62 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 17:03:51 +0000 Kylkiluut 62@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>So... we know who El's dad is. Who's da mom? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-61 Tue, 05 Feb 2008 16:40:39 +0000 el 61@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I'm starting to visualise <a href="http://www.wowjutsu.com/">WoWJutsu</a> for anglers! That takes gear information from the Armory to guess at guild progression. Unfortunately the contest winnings will very rarely be equipped, so very hard to spot automatically; and virtually impossible to spot who won <em>this</em> week.</p> <p>A better method would be a client based (that's you) data-gathering-addon-thingumi, which would simply pick out the "And the winner is..." line from the chat log. If enough anglers were running it in the background, we would get reasonably good automated data each week. But I doubt many people would run an addon, and install and use a .exe to send back the data. At least not just for something so trivial.</p> <p>One idea that has been in the back of my mind for a while was to build a "data-gathering-addon-thingumi" for the Fish Finder. It wouldn't replace the existing "hand-crafted" information, but would add detail on catch rates, time variations, and so on. This is something none of the big WoW database sites do well yet. I don't know if that is because they don't understand or care; or if there are technical limitations.</p> <p>Perhaps I could convince Sutorix to bundle it with Fishing Buddy?</p> <p>Hy started on winning contest strategies by posting some useful information about how to win the contest in the <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/poll-have-you-won-the-stranglethorn-fishing-extravaganza">Have you won the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza?</a> topic. Ultimately, I wouldn't worry to much about where this information is posted. If it starts to get hard to find, I'll filter it somehow.</p> <p>One of my distant plans for the site was a match-up/friend system for forum members, allowing you to find fellow anglers on your own server. Clearly the number of members needs to grow a lot first. Right now (admittedly only 2 weeks after launch) there are still more servers than members.</p> <p>Keep the ideas coming. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-56 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:30:54 +0000 DarvenTHO 56@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Yeah, I did take into account the number of servers, and the only thing I could logically come up with was this... If the interest is there, someone will cover it for their server. I know it's not the greatest of ideas, but it's the best I got. :) </p> <p>I thought that maybe if we did some kind of coverage, then more people would possibly get interested in it and cover their particular server. Again this is just a thought, and wanted to throw it at you fellow anglers and see what was biting...HA! </p> <p>I also have another idea for a server-wide fishing tournament circuit. It would be held once a month for probably 7 months. There would be a point system for the overall series, with the "Grand Champion" being crowned at the end of the series. There would be a monthly winner and also the circuit winner...so participation would be required to be crowned "Grand Champion". I am currently getting details down on paper and will let everyone know what I come up with. As of right now, I think it will be held on a different dock each month and the 7th month would be the big one to crown the champ! I think it will be done with at least one guild "sponsoring" the event(s), and those guild members would be the marshalls. Contestants would be grouped with a marshall, that way the marshall can keep track of who catches what, so no one can bring fish to the tourney and finish the required catches quicker. Like I said, still ironing out the details, but I think it could turn out really cool. </p> <p>I'm just glad that there is a bit of a fishing community for WoW, seeing as how it is the one thing in the game that isn't really necessary but is a whole lot of fun. I really enjoy my fishing trips because I am the Guild Master of &lt;The Highest Order&gt; on U.S. Farstriders RP server, so I am constantly having to manage a guild, and it helps me to relax in-game. :) </p> <p>Ok, I'm done rambling (for now). Let me know what everyone thinks...</p> <p> Gone Fishin'<br /> Darven </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-55 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:10:37 +0000 Kylkiluut 55@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Heh, good idea about STV Extravaganza coverage but then... do you know how many servers there are?? Yuch!</p> <p>It would almost certainly have to be something automated and I can see where that could be a bit tricky.</p> <p>How about just us Forum Readers who win posting here? That should provide some good insight. And also, stories about non-winners could be good as well. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-52 Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:19:11 +0000 DarvenTHO 52@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hey El ! I wanted to introduce myself...My name is Darven from the U.S. RP server Farstriders. I am the Guild Master of &lt;The Highest Order&gt; and have just stumbled upon your wonderful website. We have several anglers in our guild and I have been spreading the word about your wonderful website. Thank you for all the information you have compiled and we look forward to continually visiting your site. </p> <p>I have a thought to run by you...What about coverage of the SV fishing tourney? I know this would require folks from their respective servers to "report" in, but I was thinking...at least for the Farstriders server...we at The Highest Order would love to be the "reporters" covering the tournament on behalf of El's Extreme Angling. We can update from week to week who the winner is, time it took, maybe a gear profile of the winner, etc... Let me know what you think, as well as the thoughts from the other anglers here in the forums. </p> <p>Again thank you for your website and all you do! :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-51 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:30:11 +0000 el 51@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><strong>When?</strong> Launched August 2006. I started writing and researching the text a few months before.</p> <p><strong>Why?</strong> Blizzard had designed a lot of hidden detail into fishing, in spite of the basic mechanics being very simple. Yet in spite of WoW being possibly the most popular complex video game ever, nobody had definitive answers to some quite simple questions, like what skill is required to fish in an area? I enjoy probing games (I had written <a href="http://www.capsu.org/games/">quite a lot of FAQs</a> previously) and deriving patterns from data, so thought WoW fishing would be a bit of a challenge.</p> <p><strong>Updates?</strong> I try and keep the site as up to date as possible. Of course Blizzard do make undocumented changes to fishing (the Terokkar Forest elevated lakes skill change being a good example), and it isn't viable to check every aspect of the game after every patch.</p> <p>While I tend to lag behind the news sites with headline changes, I aim to have written up those changes in depth before a patch goes live. So you won't find mention of the upcoming daily fishing quests yet, because the patch isn't yet available for testing.</p> <p><strong>Who?</strong> It is just me!</p> <p><strong>Community input?</strong> Part of the reason for creating forums here was to test the strength of the community. I know a lot of people visit the site (currently over 70,000 each month), but had no idea whether they would want to do anything except read.</p> <p>I believe one of the strengths of the site is the fact content is well written and organised. Readers don't have to wade through pages of random comments to find the important information. However, a lot of that information still comes from other players - either from emails, or posts on other forums/sites that I read. I'm a big fan of collaborative information gathering, just not wiki-style collaborative writing.</p> <p>So, I'd like to throw the question of input back to you and others who are reading: Beyond forums for comments, feedback, discoveries, and general discussion, how would you like to contribute? Or indeed, would you like to contribute? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/so-el#post-45 Sat, 02 Feb 2008 00:28:57 +0000 taisai 45@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>id like to know more about the site:<br /> When was it started, why, how the community might be able to submit input, and how much you update everything; and I'm a little interested in whether it's just you or you have other help *shrug*</p> <p>regardless, a pleasure to be around </p>