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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Tag: Wintergrasp - Recent Posts</title>
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			<title>Christhina on "Safe fishing spot in Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/safe-fishing-spot-in-wintergrasp#post-7353</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Dec 2009 14:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Christhina</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I did test this, because on my PvE server, we have some unfriendly Horde who like to farm honor whilst we try to farm fish :)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Above the refugee camp in Dragonblight, it is easily possible to stand on the ledge and fish effectively in Wintergrasp - toward the right side of the shelf is a &#34;V&#34; shape cut into it, bringing the water easily close enough for comfortable fishing.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Note, if you are positioning yourself initially, you may inadvertently move too far forward (and thus move into Wintergrasp zone), this will flag you for 5 minutes, simply shuffle backwards until mini-map reads Dragonblight, and your flag will wear off in 5 minutes.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;EDIT: Don't go AFK in this spot (unless you mount your flyer) - there is a cyclone mob that sometimes shares the same space as this fishing ledge, and apparently likes to eat fisherpeople up.  If you die here, your only option is a Spirit Healer - you get ported to graveyard at Stars Rest, with no way to climb and retrieve your corpse :(
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			<title>el on "Safe fishing spot in Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/safe-fishing-spot-in-wintergrasp#post-7304</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>el</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;The trick is to sit in &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/dragonblight.html&#34; title=&#34;Fish Finder: Dragonblight.&#34;&#62;Dragonblight&#60;/a&#62; (on the ledge on the southern side of Wintergrasp), but cast so that your bobber lands in Wintergrasp. Catch is based on where the bobbers lands. PvP flag is based on where you are.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(Some people might view this as an exploit, I'm not sure. All my experiences are on PvP realms, so it makes no difference.)
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			<title>Kassi on "Safe fishing spot in Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/safe-fishing-spot-in-wintergrasp#post-7303</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kassi</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've heard rumors that there is a spot you can fish in Wintergrasp without being flagged?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm a PvE server carebear who likes to make Fish Feasts for her raid team and it would be nice to be able to fish in peace :)
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			<title>gentrinity on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6592</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>gentrinity</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Was fishing last night in the alterac mountains and have had considerable difficulty with 2 spots in particular.... &#34;water too shallow&#34; and &#34;fishable water&#34;.  Havent tried a water walking potion, but have tried every conceavable location to cast from :/
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			<title>yossarian on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6566</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 16:02:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>yossarian</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;i was trying to do the fishing daily to find the severed arm&#60;br /&#62;
out in the frozen sea and had the same problem...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;lucky for me there was a helpful person out there&#60;br /&#62;
who whispered to me to try moving around using a water walking potion&#60;br /&#62;
and i was able to complete the quest.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;(this was on tuesday, have not had an issue since)
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			<title>mikado on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6564</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 10:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>mikado</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I am fairly sure as of today this has been fixed. I went to do Dangerously Delicious just now and was able to stand on dry land while casting.
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			<title>Funkalious on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6552</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Funkalious</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;If you can't stand in the water a water walking potion will work. I had to use one this morning for the daily.
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			<title>fredje222 on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6547</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 11:14:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>fredje222</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;had it too, but they'll fix it soon i hope
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			<title>Al on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6544</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 09:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Same deal here.  I went to get the ghost fish daily and none of my usual fishing spots would work.  I had to step into the water to get any cast to land in &#34;fishable water.&#34;
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			<title>el on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6542</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>el</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Intriguing. Most confusing is that the bug is based on where you stand, not where the bobber might land.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Added: There are a few posts in Blizzard's customer service forum, so they're aware of the problem. The solution given is to stand in the water, which isn't always possible.
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			<title>dejaa on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6541</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>dejaa</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;This was happening to me in Borean Tundra.
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			<title>Rangthar on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6540</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Rangthar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Same for me in Howling Fjord. Have to stand in the water to get a cast off. ???
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			<title>Thalen on "Strange fishing behavior - Wintergrasp"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/strange-fishing-behavior-wintergrasp#post-6539</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Thalen</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Haven't had a chance to test anywhere else yet, but I noticed something odd in WG today doing the daily...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I had to stand almost IN the water for the cast to go through, if I stood even a little ways out, I got the 'didn't land in fishable water' error.  I noticed a lot of people with this issue, and even standing on the little floating ice chunks didn't seem to help.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Definitely NOT something that was there last time I was in the zone.
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			<title>beerforme on "End WG Fishing"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/end-wg-fishing#post-6349</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 20:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>beerforme</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I love the fishing in WG...it gives all the fish needed for the Fish Feast, along with the normal junk. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One simple 3 minute flight from Dalaran and I am right at the Alliance FP, and 10 seconds from fishing to get the daily completed. It save me the trouble of having to fly all around Northrend to seperate sights to gather the fish needed. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;In plain terms, it is the simplest and easiest (imho) fishing locale in WoLK.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Botters are the normal of any pvp area...remember back in the day pre-BC. If you had 275+ fishing EPL was impossible. Now it is simple, the botters have just moved to where the easy stuff is. Real life scenario, you want the best reward fro the least amount of work... hence the botters.
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			<title>Vicenti on "End WG Fishing"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/end-wg-fishing#post-6318</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 12:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Vicenti</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ending Botters would be better :)  I like the WG fishing, it would be a shame if it went, it adds a bit spice to a fishing trip.  I guess it’s like that all the time for those on a PvP server, but for me on a normal server, it’s a fun distraction.  Maybe switching WG to pool fishing would improve the situation, they could add some mixed fish pools?
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			<title>Marlburo on "End WG Fishing"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/end-wg-fishing#post-6297</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 02:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Marlburo</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;the botters are getting out of control, killing any satisfaction from the time and effort one might hope for from fishing. The only way to keep up with them is the boring act of of non pool fishing with no reward besides a scant amount of gold. I hope they end this soon.......
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			<title>Kamaria on "Fishing during wg battles"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-during-wg-battles#post-5876</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Kamaria</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Its always amusing to see the veteran pvp views on the act of fishing in the midst of a losing battle.
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			<title>ashyni on "Fishing during wg battles"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-during-wg-battles#post-5865</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ashyni</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ideally, Blizzard will patch this in a future iteration so that the tenacity buff only interacts with players who have entered combat at least once during the battle. Likewise, it would be swell if fishers who were in the zone during the battle did NOT receive a Mark unless they had entered combat at least once.
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			<title>Azaguth on "Fishing during wg battles"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Azaguth</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Even without helping out, if your faction is outnumbered 2:1 by the opposing faction for the purpose of the battle, but you have that many more people fishing, then your faction has a big disadvantage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you're in the zone but not fighting during the battle, then your side is at a disadvantage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Basically, the way the tenacity buff works is, based on the percentage more of the opposing faction, the greater the tenacity buff on the underpopulated faction.  This supposedly balances the two sides, so if you have a 70% tenacity buff, that means there are 70% more of the other faction.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;On the opposite side of the coin, if the two sides are EVEN as far as numbers are concerned, but your side has 20 fishermen there, then the opposing faction will have a tenacity buff when one is not really needed.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;So in short, yes, it does imbalance the battle in favor of the opposing faction.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;If you aren't into pvp, that's all fine and good.  The battles don't last long, and there is a 2 and a half hour break between them.  Try to fish between battles if you can.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As an avid fisherman AND someone who does WG at LEAST once a day (and is active otherwise in pvp as well), I can see both sides of the arguement.  That being said, just play nice with your faction...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Even as a fisherman myself, I've been known to jump on bobbers of fishermen who didn't heed the call of WG and &#34;either fight or GTFO til the battle is over&#34;.
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			<title>Marlburo on "Wintergrasp fishing- Giant Darkwater Clam"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wintergrasp-fishing-giant-darkwater-clam#post-5837</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Marlburo</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I also found it funny/unfair that you can mop up WG marks while just fishing there
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