http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:51:00 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-7253 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 19:03:08 +0000 Swifteye 7253@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>This is complete and utter "QQing" on my part, so feel free to disregard.</p> <p>I will never be able to win the Extravaganza, at least not with my current job (which I don't see quitting anytime soon).</p> <p>I NEVER get Sundays off, and I work graveyard shift. Moreover, my job is in the direct-care field. Meaning not only does it suck to go to work with not enough sleep (as it would with any job), it is DANGEROUS. How am I supposed to explain to a patient that I accidentally injured them while attempting to treat their wounds or assist with their rehab because I was sleepy due to being awake at 2pm (which is like 2*am* to me) trying to win a computerized fishing contest? </p> <p>I really, really wanted to get the Salty title for one of my toons, but I just don't see it happening. And it sucks to know that the only thing keeping me from it is the timing of the event.</p> <p>Personally I would rather see them replace the contest requirement for "Salty" with a few of the rare catches that AREN'T part of the achievement. Heck, I WANT a reason to fish for the Giant Sewer Rat, and it'd be interesting to make people catch Old Crafty AND Old Ironjaw! Hanging out in an enemy city long enough to actually catch the one that isn't "yours" shows dedication to the sport, no?</p> <p>Actually I was kinda irritated to learn Old Ironjaw WASN'T part of the title, AFTER I'd caught him (and it took forever, as you can imagine).</p> <p>Ah well. I'm really bummed to know that I'll never get that title despite my love for fishing and all the work I've put into it, but I suppose Blizz has to do what Bzlizz has to do.</p> <p>*shrugs* </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6968 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:06:15 +0000 Boost 6968@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The tournament should grant its own title "shady" and not salty considering that is seemingly what you need to be to win nowadays. Has nothing to do with fishing anymore. Just my 2 cents. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6967 Tue, 25 Aug 2009 06:44:32 +0000 Pj 6967@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>i won it the second week it was announced ages back<br /> and have won it three other times as well<br /> just gotta do it every week<br /> and not give up<br /> sometimes things just will work your way<br /> losing again and again and again, just makes it feel that much better when you finally do win<br /> if its really that bad and winning is so important to you you could always just change servers or pay people to protect of you something.. although i've won it on two different servers, both pvp, and i can say that both of them took a whole bunch of sundays<br /> skill can only take you so far with the tourney and fishing in general, at the end of the day, luck will always be a considerable factor of fishing</p> <p>just don't be negative and convince yourself that you can never win, because you can, every week somebody wins, often times its not the person who has like five people protecting them trying to help win it, just some random person who got lucky with spots and few junk fish<br /> just don't give up </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6962 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 16:44:11 +0000 Shircon 6962@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>X-Rok <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6953" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Personally I'm in defense of keeping the Extravaganza in the Salty title requirement... Titles are supposed to be rare, this is one of the few that has a limiter on how many people can obtain it. Remove the Extravaganza, and Salty becomes a title you can AFK-click your way to obtaining.<br /> Skill or luck, whatever you want to call it, it takes both. You need luck on your side for avoiding junk catches, having your bobber actually land in the pool, spawns of pools being nearby, and no competition in the area... You need skill to know where to stand to help your bobber land in the pool easier, to avoid the still-bugged pools that make you spend most of your time getting 'Water too shallow', to know when to switch areas because of overcompetition...<br /> It's actually one of the few consistently fun challenges left in this game, and I only get out there on time for it maybe every third week... Today I managed my 6th win in about 4 years... once before 2.0, one shortly after TBC came out, one right before and one right after 3.0, and one shortly after WotLK before I hit 80, plus today (Aug23). I like to call it... defending my Saltyness.<br /> You wanna be Salty? You gotta outfish the competition. Salty is for the best of the best of us that ever hooked a Nightcrawler on our fishing line... Get fishing.</p></blockquote> <p>Here here....i could not have put it better myself,its the only achievement that makes you truly earn it in my view....HUZZAH to you sir. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6959 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 10:31:31 +0000 Jelly 6959@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>While I think the contest gives us all something to strive for and is a great motivator, I think it is very luck-based to be honest, at least when you think of the contest as a one time encounter.</p> <p> Yesterday I was at 35 fish when the winner was announced and I was bloody unlucky for the first 8-9 minutes:<br /> - Yojamba, which I always start at, had basically no pools spawning in the first three minutes.<br /> - Moreover, the first 5 pools I fished had *one* tastyfish each, while the rest was stranglekelp etc. </p> <p>I really know what I should do, have the pots stacked etc, but there is nothing really I can do about catching firefin snappers or stranglekelp.</p> <p>Having said that, I know that the probability of being so unlucky in, let's say, 10 tries is really low and so the luck factor's importance might drop quite a lot.</p> <p>However if you take into consideration various things like: pool spawns probability, catch rate probability, let alone the mammoth-blocking issues - I wouldn't dare to say it has very little luck involved. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6956 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 09:03:03 +0000 Rigami 6956@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I got it yesterday. It was my forth time *really trying* to win. I would have to say those that are complaining are probably not trying. For the forth time I had actually planned to run it next week as my research wasn't fully complete but tried anyway. </p> <p>If you want to remove Salty fine, but I would say that you get another title in place. </p> <p>All the other fishing tasks for salty are luck based, the STVE has very little luck involved if you want to win. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6953 Sun, 23 Aug 2009 19:55:18 +0000 X-Rok 6953@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Personally I'm in defense of keeping the Extravaganza in the Salty title requirement... Titles are supposed to be rare, this is one of the few that has a limiter on how many people can obtain it. Remove the Extravaganza, and Salty becomes a title you can AFK-click your way to obtaining.</p> <p>Skill or luck, whatever you want to call it, it takes both. You need luck on your side for avoiding junk catches, having your bobber actually land in the pool, spawns of pools being nearby, and no competition in the area... You need skill to know where to stand to help your bobber land in the pool easier, to avoid the still-bugged pools that make you spend most of your time getting 'Water too shallow', to know when to switch areas because of overcompetition...</p> <p>It's actually one of the few consistently fun challenges left in this game, and I only get out there on time for it maybe every third week... Today I managed my 6th win in about 4 years... once before 2.0, one shortly after TBC came out, one right before and one right after 3.0, and one shortly after WotLK before I hit 80, plus today (Aug23). I like to call it... defending my Saltyness.</p> <p>You wanna be Salty? You gotta outfish the competition. Salty is for the best of the best of us that ever hooked a Nightcrawler on our fishing line... Get fishing. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6925 Wed, 19 Aug 2009 03:24:38 +0000 Leieia 6925@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I doubt that it will be changed, but I would like to see the Extravaganza removed from the title. As an achievement, winning the contest seems far more like a feat of strength than anything else and it makes the Salty title sort of arbitrary. I'd rather see a flat-out "how many hours spent fishing" or some huge crazy number of fish caught as a requirement than the Extravaganza. </p> <p>And I'll back frankOz up by saying that - on my server - it's a mess of poor sportsmanship, to say the least. I'm not even on a PVP server, but I see huge mounts covering pools, NPCs pulled onto other players, people jumping on lures, etc. It's a display of the worst behavior in all of Azeroth, and I hate being out there week after week trying to wade through the jerks. </p> <p>I may be off in thinking this, but I like playing with a sort of fisherman's code. I like seeing tauren trying to hide in the back corner of Ironforge, dressed up in their finest fishing gear. If I'm out and about and someone else is fishing pools in the same area, I try to make sure we aren't stepping on each other's toes. Since the title is sort of the only prominent way to show fishing pride, I find it inconsistent with the spirit of the profession to make the contest a requirement for Salty.</p> <p>And besides all that, I think perseverance, rather than simply luck, should be the deciding factor for Salty. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6737 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:25:45 +0000 Marlburo 6737@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>in defense of the tournament.....after 4 times you're still learning. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6736 Wed, 29 Jul 2009 01:03:46 +0000 frankOz 6736@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I have just finished with eight pages of comments and feel the need to throw in mine.<br /> I have fished the tournament a grand total of four times. In those four times I was met with epic fail and frustration of being ganked and camped and ganked some more by friends of friends that were fishing.<br /> Seems to me the only way to win this contest, at least on a high population pvp server like mine, is to belong to a large guild and bring them all along and have them stomp everything up and down the coast. Raze your own faction, kill and camp the other faction.</p> <p>If this sounds like the kind of achievement Blizz had in mind when they set the tournament in the Salty achievement then they have done a fine job.<br /> I have seen the same gankers and campers friends win three out of the four times I have attempted this. Probably gankers and campers working the other coast won the other time.<br /> This is the last achievement I need to get the Salty. As it stands I don't see how I will ever get it. </p> <p>The only skill and tactics needed here is nine lives and a crew of rogues to watch your back. Obviously my vote is take it out of the achievement. Make it a guild or group competition achievement, as it seems to be that anyway. That way parties of folks could get it that Sunday.<br /> Here's an idea, The Stranglethorn Vale Combat Arena Tournament Fishing Achievement, combat fishing at it worst. You get a hat and a T-shirt saying "I survived it !" Oh yeah and the name tag. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/8#post-6715 Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:44:19 +0000 Boffin 6715@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won the contest today so I'm not posting this to complain or be a sore loser, but I think this would be better as a feat of strength as it is not consistent with other achievements. I'm all for keeping the title rare, but perhaps there is a way to keep only 52 potential Saltys a year while allowing people to attempt a win at any time, only once per week such as a timed fishing challenge (ie who can catch the most of a certain fish in a given amount of time) while keeping the original contest as something even more special than Salty. There are titles out there, such as "the Insane" that only require huge investments in time to complete and no skill, but that doesn't mean everyone is going to get it, personally I think the other fishing achievements are challenging enough as it is to complete without having to compete at exactly 2pm on a Sunday. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6701 Thu, 23 Jul 2009 17:59:20 +0000 laserfloyd 6701@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I would like to add to this topic. In my case it was almost all pure luck.</p> <p>I don't have time to raid or play in large chunks so fishing has become my favorite past time in WoW. I started fishing and getting the first few easy acheivements. I figured I'd look into getting the title and knew I'd have to win that contest... I was intimidated because I knew nothing about it.</p> <p>First attempt: I showed up 30 minutes late... didn't even know I was suppose to catch the tasty fish. Eh lets just say I didn't win :)</p> <p>Second attempt: I was a few minutes late still but knew what to do and got good practice at finding spots and planning out my strategy.</p> <p>Third attempt: I was in BB and got to fishing at the sound of the starting gun. I'm a DK so path of frost helps immensely. That plus pale horse might borderline be OP. Water walking in any form is important as you can go straight from A to B in most cases. I went up the coast from BB hitting every pool I could. It got crowded in the south so I went past GG and picked up there.</p> <p>I hit a string of getting oily blackmouth and was getting frustrated. My luck finally turned and I hit 10 tasty fish in a row to get my 40.</p> <p>Once I hit 40 fish my heart was pounding, it was about 20 minutes in. I hadn't seen an announcement but to my dismay I had NOT set my hearth to BB.</p> <p>I haul butt to GG and fly to BB the whole time thinking "go go go go you damn wyvern!". I landed and immediately jumped down. The little goblin had a blue ? over his head. /gasp I saw the contest had not been won! I didn't even look at the reward because a human pally was walking up. I wasn't about to let someone take it from under me! I didn't care what I got as long as I won the contest! It was mine! What a rush.</p> <p>I can completely understand the frustration of losing this thing repeatedly. I honestly thought it'd take weeks/months.</p> <p>I personally feel a bit vindicated since the ONLY thing that kept me from the Hallowed title was that #%#@$ squashling pet (I could have even ninja'd the pet twice but I'm above that :). And hey, I have to wait a whole year to try that again. :-o</p> <p>This site is awesome by the way! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6693 Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:55:50 +0000 Coldgreentea 6693@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Well, let me first add that I love fishing. But, I am not the greatest at it and my luck with fishing is not so good. I would love to get the salty title for purely showing that you love to fish. But I cannot beat the STV tournament. On a pvp server, it is nearely impossible, unless you are really geared, and chances are, you have your fishing gear on. On a normal server, it is easier, but some people can fish up all of the fish in literally minutes.....I think that there should be a seperate title like Master Angler, or Super Salty, or "&lt;Name&gt; Of the Sea". That would be a reward for winning the STV contest, and just the normal Salty for those who just love to fish, but arnt necessarily good or anything. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6688 Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:55:09 +0000 Manginae 6688@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>After long thought I think that the title needs to have the extravaganza in it. I have a red proto drake, I worked for about a week for it in my full t7.5 and now kids go and overpower it, like the drake titles with t8.5. They think they are good, but in reality they just Op'ed an instance. So what I might be able to get a rare in one cast or maby get lucky on the turtle. The STV fishing is what makes this a different kind of achievement. Who cares if its hard, thats the point. Suck it up. I do feel pity for the Sunday workers, maby they can add a thursday STV or something for about month </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6660 Wed, 15 Jul 2009 02:11:33 +0000 GormanGhaste 6660@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>woo hoo, thanks El! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6656 Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:03:05 +0000 GormanGhaste 6656@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Ok, this is slightly off-topic, but El, what would you think about giving forum members who have completed all the requirements for Salty but the Tournament recognition in our Aquariums? We could even have a forum title, Low Sodium! :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6630 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:44:21 +0000 jacobsod 6630@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>While I might agree on the limit winning to once idea (reward the pole and the trinket at the same time), it should remain once a week. Having a limited number of titles is what makes some of us work so hard for it. I wouldn't have probably tried so hard for the title if I saw hunderds of "salty" titles around. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6625 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:03:19 +0000 darkelf56 6625@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The STV tourney needs overhauling if it wants my vote to remain in the criteria. Besides the time of day ....once a week ...there is also the repeat winners that suck up a win or two from those of us who are trying for Salty...and thats not just a win but that sucks up a week of those precious 52. </p> <p>Open it up a little bit...dont get rid of it...just make it reasonable. By the way the average length of a tourney is 20 mins...give or take a minute. The "tourney" is not 2 hours long folks..not for the title. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6493 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 06:06:28 +0000 Hamacus 6493@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Well I jus got my Salty title yesterday and call it what you will but I agree with those that say keep "Salty" as it is. Was it easy? No but that makes it even sweeter. I do think they need to institute a one time win limit though. Lets be fair 52 week a year is a small enough window without those that have already won decreasing the window of opprotunity .</p> <p>BTW thank you El and those that post here. Would have been even harder without your help...and yes I am Salty Ham. : ) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/extravaganza-in-salty-achievement/page/7#post-6163 Mon, 11 May 2009 03:32:49 +0000 Wistala 6163@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Leave the title as it is. Half the fun for me getting it was knowing how hard of a process it really would be. </p>