http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ El's Extreme Anglin' Forums Topic: Fishing changes in 2.4 - The Dailies en Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:20:48 +0000 http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/4#post-331 Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:03:17 +0000 Oberweiss 331@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I just wanted to follow up on my post from page 3 regarding the <a href="/fish/?s=Blackfin Darter" title="Fish Finder - Blackfin Darter.">Blackfin Darter</a>.</p> <p>I was not able to replicate that error message, clicking the bobber immediately on all 3 of the characters I did that daily quest on. It's likely that the reason I originally got the error message was lag, or maybe even a change with the most recent build.</p> <p>I wish I could provide more in-depth information for you regarding the # of catches it takes to get a certain quest fish (unfortunately, I haven't been tracking that). However, I can confirm that one day on one character it took me 14 minutes to catch the Nagrand quest fish. I'm sure it wasn't a zone problem, as I didn't move while I was fishing. I'd guess this is an anomaly, but it's probably more than the maximum you've listed of 23. </p> <p>That being said, I hope those sorts of anomalies don't happen often. It makes these fishing quests quite a bit more frustrating.</p> <p>Here's a completely unproven theory: maybe the further you have to travel for the quest, the less time they want it to take to catch the fish? You could argue that you have to travel the furthest to catch the <a href="/fish/?s=Monstrous Felblood Snapper" title="Fish Finder - Monstrous Felblood Snapper.">Monstrous Felblood Snapper</a> because you can take the portal to Orgrimmar. Just a thought. :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/4#post-327 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:56:59 +0000 el 327@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Waiting to click does make a difference: You'll spend 10-20% longer fishing.</p> <p>So far on PTRs I've completed 59 single-fish daily fishing quests using a traditional fishing method (plus 21 Shrimpin' dailies, which are more predictable). I've recorded the number of catches required to get the quest fish. These are listed below:</p> <p><strong>Quest / Average / Maximum / Sample</strong></p> <p>Bait / 13.3 / 33 / 9<br /> Nagrand / 8.7 / 26 / 23<br /> Crocs / 7.6 / 35 / 16<br /> Felblood / 6.1 / 23 / 11</p> <p>Overall a mathematical average of 8.6 catches to get the quest fish. But that ranges from 1 to 35. This is a seriously random.</p> <p>The wild card at the moment is the Bait Bandits quest, which seems to take a fair bit longer. But I've only completed it 9 times, so I may have just been unlucky. If that quest is a bit harder, it may explain why these new methods are emerging specifically for that quest - players have longer to think about it...</p> <p>The main reason for putting up that data is to demonstrate how difficult it is to prove a pattern here. Even if waiting a few seconds doubles the chance of catching a quest fish, that would still be less convincing that arguing that <a href="/fish/?s=Monstrous Felblood Snapper" title="Fish Finder - Monstrous Felblood Snapper.">Monstrous Felblood Snapper</a> take half as long as <a href="/fish/?s=Blackfin Darter" title="Fish Finder - Blackfin Darter.">Blackfin Darter</a> to catch.... and I'm not at all sure about that.</p> <p>I don't like to dismiss the idea, because that's just what used to happen with variations by time of day. But it wouldn't match the design of fishing up till now (it has never been a "twitch" game). Plus I don't think Blizzard would devote development time to such a specific niche change**.</p> <p>(** Off-topic tangent: The behaviour/code being used for these quests is different from the Azeroth fishing quests. The dailies all replace an existing catch with a quest fish, while most of the Azeroth quests add the quest fish to an existing catch. TBC originally didn't have any quest fish, merely two messy implementations that looked like they had been designed for fishing, but for some reason couldn't be coded for fishing: Seth's pole and the <a href="/fish/?s=Red Snapper" title="Fish Finder - Red Snapper.">Red Snapper</a>s. So the theory goes that whoever coded the original fishing quests had left by the time TBC came along, whoever did TBC didn't, and whoever is coding dailies now has developed an entirely new method.) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/4#post-326 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:34:08 +0000 Kahless 326@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I did that quest again today and just fished like I normally do.<br /> Click on the bobber as soon as it splashes.</p> <p>I caught the blackfin on the 5th cast in the middle of the timer. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/4#post-325 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:30:09 +0000 Gummo 325@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The general thought is that waiting for clicking has NO effect whatsoever. It seems inconsistent with how fishing works in WoW. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-324 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:02:52 +0000 Zhivago 324@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Bait Bandits again. I am trying to figure out whether waiting before clicking has any effect. So, 10 casts, click right after the bobber jumps, all <a href="/fish/?s=Barbed Gill Trout" title="Fish Finder - Barbed Gill Trout.">Barbed Gill Trout</a>. Then I tried counting to three as soon as the bobber jumped and I caught the <a href="/fish/?s=Black Darter" title="Fish Finder - Black Darter.">Black Darter</a> on the third try.</p> <p>Seven gold and change plus <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34859">Razor Sharp Fillet Knife</a>. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-319 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:41:07 +0000 Zhivago 319@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>World's Largest Mudfish.. two casts...Some fishing hooks and a Rusted lock. </p> <p>BTW, since I found this site, I am a much happier angler. I let my guildie fishing friends know about it, so I hope they join and contribute. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-315 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 00:35:53 +0000 Zhivago 315@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>That is exactly what I am saying. I have gotten rusted fish hooks and shark tooth and spyglass and they all sell for over 1g per, making these quests WAY better than most, if you figure money/time invested.</p> <p>I did the Shrimp one today, and if not for the nasty lag (they rebooted the PTR it was so bad), the quest would have taken all of six minutes. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-309 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:25:10 +0000 Gihelle 309@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Making 35g per quest if you get lucky with an Ancient Coin = win </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-308 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:27:44 +0000 Zhivago 308@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Pretty late reply to the post about getting from the Blood Elf starting area to the new zone. Yes, there is fatigue water, but if you roll a priest, you can heal yourself through it, although you may die once in the attempt. I tried a Paladin too, and didn't make it and died many times.</p> <p>On a fishing note, got Crocolisks in the City. Very easy. Took like 4 casts. With the ability to do 25 dailies in 2.4, there seems not to be a reason to do the fishing and cooking quests once you get all the leet rewards. The actual money may be less, but the "extra" rewards make up for it. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-306 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:55:16 +0000 Oberweiss 306@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I have a little information on the Bait Bandits quest. It may be nothing. One time, I clicked the bobber after a splash without waiting and got the message "No fish are hooked." It could have been the Blackfin Darter getting away, but it also could have been lag.</p> <p>I'd be interested in seeing if anyone else has had this happen while on the Bait Bandits quest.</p> <p><em>Edit: see my follow up to this post <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/4?replies=64#post-331">here</a>. This error was not able to be replicated.</em> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-303 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 03:37:56 +0000 Dasvampyr 303@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Just completed Crocolisks in the City.</p> <p>Got another valuable trash item: <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34829" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34829</a></p> <p>sells for 11G to the vendor </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-297 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:13:59 +0000 Zhivago 297@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Just got Bait Bandits again. Cast my line, and by reflex, clicked the mouse as soon as the bobber jumped. Who says getting fishing to 375 doesn't create muscle memory. Caught the Black Darter on the first try!!!!</p> <p>I noticed with this quest that the fishing timer goes to end alot more the usual. When I clicked the bobber "early" (see above), the timer was NOT near the end.</p> <p>So I don't know if the "waiting a couple of seconds" only applies when the fishing timer is near the end or what. I will pay more attention to this in the future. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-296 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 18:53:25 +0000 el 296@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've read about "waiting a while after the bobber splashes" a few times now, but so far haven't been able to detect any tangible difference in the speed at which fish are caught. The process of catching quest fish is highly random, which makes it very hard to prove anything. Anyone else looked at this? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-295 Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:13:51 +0000 Zhivago 295@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Just did the Bait Bandits quest for the Blackfin Darter. It is a little tricky, but counting to 3 or 4 (depending on how fast you count) after the bobber jumps make this easier.</p> <p>Finally, a fishing quest with RL fishing skill!!! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-294 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:42:56 +0000 Oberweiss 294@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I was lucky enough to get 2 Snarly pets the other day (on 2 different characters), and I uploaded a video of one. He makes some funny noises.</p> <p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8830701419370381773&#38;hl=en">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8830701419370381773&#38;hl=en</a></p> <p>Regular photos (4) are here: <a href="http://kabby.net/wow/crocs/">http://kabby.net/wow/crocs/</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-292 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:58:15 +0000 Kahless 292@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>So I got Muckbreath the baby pet Crockolisk this morning.<br /> There's a picture of him here...<br /> <a href="http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=muckandmesd1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img341.imageshack.us/my.php?image=muckandmesd1.jpg</a></p> <p>So far the rewards I've gotten from the daily are...<br /> 51 Sharpened Fishhooks<br /> 5 Elixers of Water Walking<br /> 2 Gold Wedding Bands<br /> 1 Ancient Coin<br /> 2 Razor Sharp Filet Knife<br /> 8 Jaggal Pearls<br /> 1 Weather Beaten Fishing Hat<br /> 1 Muckbreath's Bucket<br /> 1 Recipe Captain Rumsey's Lager </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-279 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:21:37 +0000 Gihelle 279@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>500 indeed.</p> <p>I haven't got it yet (but I got 50+ +100 lures on PTR lol... doesn't matter a lot since I got an Engineer alt :/), but I do believe you won't need lures anymore. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-271 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:35:05 +0000 purus 271@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Does the new hat basically work as an unending supply of +75 lures? If so then does that mean that anybody in the 425+ club can fish everywhere without the need for any extra lures? Highest required skill to avoid getaways everywhere is 500, right? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-264 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:45:04 +0000 Oberweiss 264@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <blockquote><p>I must be missing something. I can't seem to find Old Man Barlo. I've been all around the lake and he just isn't there. Am I supposed to do something first before he will appear? </p></blockquote> <p>I have the sneaking suspicion that you're not on the test realm. Old Man Barlo will be available after the 2.4 patch, which (afaik) hasn't been given an official release date yet.</p> <p>On the test realm, he's pretty easy to find, as he'll show up as a blue "!" on your minimap. He's on the shore of Slimyr Lake, pretty close to Shattrath. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fishing-changes-in-24-the-dailies/page/3#post-263 Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:38:34 +0000 Gihelle 263@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I'm at the Bait Bandits quest today, and it proved to be really frustrating.</p> <p>Having to wait on the lure on the exact last second sucks, and it's not a 100% drop. Did over 50 casts with 510 skill with no luck. </p>