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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Topic: Old Crafty!!</title>
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			<title>Snafu on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7284</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:43:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Snafu</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, to add my two cents...the Valley of Honor is a much better place to fish than The Valley of Spirits. I fished the Valley of Spirits pool for awhile, but was eventually ganked. It wasn't a bad spot, really...I've caught about 300 fish there in previous attempts but I wanted to give the other place a try.  I went to the Valley of Honor waterfall during &#34;off-hours&#34; without any problem. I'm a lvl 80 ret pally, and I entered through the western gate. Just saddle up and go for it. I stayed there for a few hours over a couple of days, logging in and out when I had the time to play. I always used Elixer of Camouflage, and so the Hunters couldn't track me. I also used  Blackened Worg Steak which allows you to track humanoids; I liked watching the traffic go by me on the minimap. No one touched me there, although I do think a lvl 80 orc saw me. (Thank you from a fellow fisherman.) He was fishing too and may have heard my bobber. I couldn't hear his (and I tried to) but being under the waterfall may have been the reason why. Just for the sake of posterity, and since it seems that there are people who are into this sort of thing, here's what I caught this time around:&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Longjaw Mud Snapper: 530&#60;br /&#62;
Bristle Whisker Catfish: 211&#60;br /&#62;
Brilliant Smallfish: 146&#60;br /&#62;
17 pound Catfish: 4&#60;br /&#62;
Lesser healing potion: 3&#60;br /&#62;
Bloated Mud Snapper: 2&#60;br /&#62;
Infantry Tunic of the Monkey: 1&#60;br /&#62;
Short Bastard Sword of the Monkey: 1&#60;br /&#62;
The One Ring: 1&#60;br /&#62;
Old Crafty: 1&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;For a total of 900 casts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;It may not be as easy for others to get to the waterfall as it was for me, but it's worth it if you're planning on staying there for a while. I swore I wasn't going to leave until I caught the bugger, so I'd have kept on fighting and/or corpse hopping my way in if I'd had to.
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			<title>Pipre on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7156</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Pipre</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;NineTailedFox &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-3843&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Okay, so I came up with an easy way to do this - if you can wait until you are in Northrend and complete the quest chain that leads to the cinematic in Dragonblight, then you get a quest as Alliance to report back to Stormwind.  That gives you the Fate, Up Against Your Will quest.  This creates a portal to Orgrimmar.  BUT, this Orgrimmar appears to be a separate Orgrimmar from the one with Horde in it- so it isn't your server's Orgrimmar!  There are NO horde there and the guards do NOT attack you!  So you can fish all you want!&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;This method no longer works.
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			<title>blackdragonchjt on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7151</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Sorry peeps, on the 17th cast and i got old crafty.
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			<title>bombcar on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7072</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 03:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>bombcar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Well, I got it. Only about 150 casts, too, and I died once.
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			<title>Patience on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7023</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 08:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Patience</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Got really lucky on Old Crafty. Fished in the Valley of Spirits, hiding behind the big rock there. Didn't have Fishing Buddy at the time so I just had my stopwatch on. Caught him in under 16 minutes, roughly 50 catches. I think it took me longer to get into place to start fishing than it took actually catching him. Was level 30 at the time.
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			<title>stormbear on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-7022</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 06:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>stormbear</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I had Croc in the City, with a Croc in my bag and snagged Old Crafty within 100 casts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I started fishing him up around midnight Eastern and got it within an hour. Got ganked twice and one ganker got an achievement - &#34;Defender of the City.&#34;
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			<title>Gottalot on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-5436</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 08:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Gottalot</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Confirmed catch of Old Crafty in Orgimar after relaese of patch 3.1.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hi. Yesterday (16/4 - 09) I catched Old Crafty in Orgimar with the daily quest &#34;Crocolisks in the City&#34;.&#60;br /&#62;
It took me about 35min - 50min (Due to girlfriend issues I dont have exact time) to ctach it. 8 babycrocs&#60;br /&#62;
where thrown back.
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			<title>Cherel on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Cherel</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Today on my server, was the crocolisk daily, so I decided to head to Orgrimmar to take another shot at Old Crafty.  2 ganks and about an hour later, I got him. :)
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			<title>Longveins on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-5063</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 07:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Longveins</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Tonight after reading about the fishing quest &#34;bug&#34; to get Old Crafty I noticed people were not looting the fish on the way to catch the Croc. I don't have  fishing dailes yet on my priest but I decided to try and throw back everything but Old Crafty. 5 casts and I had him. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I hope this works for you... Enjoy
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			<title>Jindar on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-5042</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Jindar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I consider myself especially lucky - couple weeks before Achievements were instated, I took my troll mage (Jindar, for those curious) to Org to learn fishing, hearing it was good for the alchemy and cooking he already had.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;He caught Old Crafty on his 25th catch ever, and the catch itself gave him his 20th skillpoint.
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			<title>Azaguth on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-5033</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 23:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Azaguth</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;There's a patience requirement.  Can you believe I spent 3-4 hours per night trying to get ironjaw on my horde character for a week straight before staying up all night for a 14 hour fishing session before getting Old ironjaw?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Sometimes the RNG just hates you.  Learn to love it. :P&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck.
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			<title>Astrelle on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-5023</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 02:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Astrelle</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Can you believe it's been a week of fishing 1-2 hours a day and I still haven't caught him? Is there a a level requirement? Skill requirement? Something?
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			<title>Astrelle on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-4922</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Astrelle</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;NineTailedFox &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-3843&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;I'm assuming this works for the Horde quest to go to Stormwind for the Diplomat achievement - i don't think there is a quest that ports you to Ironforge.&#60;br /&#62;
Hope this helps fishers currently questing in Dragonblight!&#60;/p&#62;&#60;/blockquote&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Should be able to use the tram in stormwind to get the Ironforge though..&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I haven't seen Old Crafty today.. been fishing for 4 hours. :(
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			<title>NineTailedFox on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/6#post-3843</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 06:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>NineTailedFox</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I found a port straight to Orgrimmar!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm Alliance and i just caught Old Crafty.&#60;br /&#62;
(66 Longjaw Mud Snappers, 28 Raw Bristle Whisker Catfish, 19 Raw Brilliant Smallfish - Ironjaw was just as fast!)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Okay, so I came up with an easy way to do this - if you can wait until you are in Northrend and complete the quest chain that leads to the cinematic in Dragonblight, then you get a quest as Alliance to report back to Stormwind.  That gives you the Fate, Up Against Your Will quest.  This creates a portal to Orgrimmar.  BUT, this Orgrimmar appears to be a separate Orgrimmar from the one with Horde in it- so it isn't your server's Orgrimmar!  There are NO horde there and the guards do NOT attack you!  So you can fish all you want! &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I just got The Fishing Diplomat doing this as well as Old Crafty, so you can get the achievements in this &#34;alternate&#34; Orgrimmar.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm assuming this works for the Horde quest to go to Stormwind for the Diplomat achievement - i don't think there is a quest that ports you to Ironforge. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Hope this helps fishers currently questing in Dragonblight!
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			<title>Pipre on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3803</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 12:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Pipre</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just tried this trick today, and it worked. Got him on my fourth cast.
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			<title>Grorlond on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3782</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:54:07 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Grorlond</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I caught Old Crafty too, after something like 572 casts (don't remember the exact number). I must shamefully admit that the last 30 casts were with the Crocolisks in the City daily in my quest log. I was really trying to get the little bugger unaided. But oh well ... the 4 deaths (over two separate corpse run journeys) and 572 casts I had to endure along the way make me feel slightly better about myself. :)
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			<title>rlehm on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3765</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:03:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>rlehm</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Alliance get all he breaks. Where's our Winterspring Tiger?
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			<title>Growler on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3763</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 23:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Growler</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I got my Old Crafty over the weekend using the Fishing daily and the Wrathgate chain.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;As an Alliance there is a part of the chain where you visit Orgrimmar and after chatting with Thrall I sat down and had a good fish.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;No gankings at all, it was very peaceful.  :)
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			<title>RumbleBeeWolf on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3742</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>RumbleBeeWolf</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi,&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Not sure this has already been mentioned but there is an easy way for Alliance to complete this Achievement catching Old Crafty.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Firstly make sure you have the daily fishing quest 'Crocolisks in the city'&#60;br /&#62;
This bug (if you want to call it that) only works when you have the above quest in your log&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now make your way into Org and corpse run to the Valley of Spirits if you have to. Once there fish and make sure autoloot is off. You dont want to loot the crocolisk quest item. If you accidently loot the croc then simply delete it from your inventory.  I can confirm that both me and a friend caught Old crafty within 20 casts. a 3rd friend tried this and got Old crafty on his 1st cast and after a bit of asking around i've discovered others taking advantage.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Try it and see. The important parts are to have the quest mentioned above and not to loot the quest item. If you do loot the quest item you must delete. Failure to delete the quest item will mean you wont be able to loot old crafty when it catches. You will get a warning 'you can't do that right now'.
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			<title>Obieight on "Old Crafty!!"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty/page/5#post-3699</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 02:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Obieight</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Caught Old Crafty today using the fishing quest trick so I can confirm that it still works! It took less then 10 casts. Prior to this I spent many hours and caught hundreds of fish in Org fruitlessly.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Moving on to IF to see if the trick still works there. I'll post in the Ironjaw thread if it works&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Obieight
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