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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Topic: Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?</title>
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			<title>ClemSnide on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar/page/2#post-7087</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 06:16:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ClemSnide</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Phased Orgrimmar has evidently changed a great deal. For one thing, when I first logged the quest and saw that I was in Org without aggro, the first thing I thought was &#34;Hey! Now I can fish up Ol' Crafty!&#34; (I had gotten Fishing Diplomat long ago.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At that time I did knock off Ragefire Chasm, and had Saunders logged in PhOrg for the longest time, racking up cast after cast-- 1500 by my tick-mark count of stacks of fish thrown away. Then I hearthstoned, intending to return at some future date and get that dang rare fish. (I tried the Crocolisks in the City trick, but it didn't work; although I could catch Ol' Crafty, he was unlootable.)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Now, I file a lot of reports. Goldspammers, deadvertisers, bugs, etc.; and I'm polite about it, so when I interact with a GM, it's a decent experience. I filed one a little while ago, chatted with the replying GM, and was told that there is now no fishing in PhOrg. I went in with another chara and the GM was right. I could also not get into RFC. I'd further suspect that the Elders don't show up there, or if they do are nonresponsive.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Moral: If you find something like this, drop erverything and do it with all your charas, because you never know when it'll go away.
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			<title>Narinae on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:52:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Narinae</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Odd, I tried to get into Ragefire when I was in phased Org months ago but couldn't get in.  (I don't remember whether it gave me some kind of message or if the portal was just inert.)  That's great for Alliance though :)
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			<title>jothman on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>jothman</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You can complete Fishing Diplomat in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I did it as of Sep 13, 2009 patch 3.2.0 (10314)&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Obtain quest &#34;Fate, Up Against Your Will&#34; to enable you to enter phased Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
Obtain Stratholme daily fishing quest &#34;Crocolisks In The City&#34;.&#60;br /&#62;
Go to Orgrimmar and fish.  Your loot window will show empty for each cast UNTIL you catch the baby crocolisk.  The baby crocolosk will show as a &#34;normal&#34; catch and when you loot it, you will receive the achievement Fishing Diplomat.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Note:&#60;br /&#62;
I have fished in phased Orgrimmer both with and without the Crocolisk iIn The City quest in my log.&#60;br /&#62;
My loot window always came up empty except when I caught the baby crocolisk.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I fished maybe 100 casts and did not see hide nor hair of Old Crafty.  Everyone says you can not catch him in phased Orgrimmar, but since I got Fishing Diplomat I wonder.  I have seen no official Blue pronouncement that you can not catch Old Crafty in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;BTW, I was able to complete the following two other achievements in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
Explore the entire Durotar zone - leave and enter Orgrimmar by south entrance.&#60;br /&#62;
Ragefire Chasm instance&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good Fishin' to you
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			<title>Narinae on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar/page/2#post-6970</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 15:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Narinae</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Are you sure it was phased, Usagija?  You can't enter Ragefire Chasm from phased Org - or at least you couldn't when I was there 4 months ago.
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			<title>foneldar on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>foneldar</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Since the last patch you have to complete the Battle for the Undercity quest line in order to fish in Orgrimmar.&#60;br /&#62;
I tried picking up the Shattrath City Crocolisk daily but it no longer works.&#60;br /&#62;
This was confirmed by a GM this morning.
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			<title>Usagija on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 06:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Usagija</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It DOES work. I am proof! I caught Old Crafty in 7 casts while it was phased at max fishing, no lures. My boyfriend was also there to witness because I was slightly disappointed in how easy it was. I could have just logged there. I then proceeded to do the Ragefire Chasm achievement just because I didn't want to waste the opportunity.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Strange, like francislam44 I caught it 04/09/09, maybe it was bugged? But Crocolisks in the City was not the daily for that day.
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			<title>suutar on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I tried this last night. I got the port to phased Org, watched the scripted conversation, and then before turning in the quest step I ran out to try to fish. I could cast, and the bobber would jump, but when I clicked, I got no fish and no message. I did get a skillup, though. *sigh* Oh well.
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			<title>Talathan on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 16:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Talathan</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;heathisrael &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar#post-4177&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;&#34;Phased Orgr&#34; ...the epic quest chain in Dragonblight that ends in the cinematic...after the cinematic, you go to Ogrimar to talk to Thrall. Orgrimar is phased and there's no 'hostile' guards, or any Horde, the whole city is open to you...and there's no travel time as you use a portal from SW.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;Ok, I've done one Dragonblight quest line that ends in a cinematic - no phased Orgrimmar.  Can you recall the quest name? I tried WoWHead to see what quests start or end with Thrall - but it lists only Horde quests.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edit: Ok, after doing more research I did find the info I needed. The quest chain for both Horde and Alliance is listed among the posts at &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=547&#34; rel=&#34;nofollow&#34;&#62;http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=547&#60;/a&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I'm glad I came here before I went too much farther. I got the Veteran of the Wrathgate achievement, but I didn't finish the entire chain. I'm hoping that, like Stormwind, it doesn't need more than Fishing 1. (Ok, he CAN fish - he just hasn't. Skill's somewhere around 100)
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			<title>cpengel on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 21:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;You can definitely catch Crafty while phased, and get the diplomat achievement.  I did both last week.
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			<title>francislam44 on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 07:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Just got it on 04/09/09 in phased Orgrimmar. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Made roughly 1000 casts without the Crocolisk daily at Valley of Spirits. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;However, could not gain the The Fishing Diplomat at the same time. =(
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			<title>Tanlos on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 16:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Tanlos</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;As of 3/28/09 (Version 3.0.9) Old Crafty is still fishable in phased Orgrimmar. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Roughly 1500 casts over 3 sessions (about twice as fast as the rat)
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			<title>Wolfang on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 03:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Wolfang</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Agreed.  It took me 3950 casts but I finally got him today.  I died about 20 times or so from Hordies...most were kind, but a few were really nasty.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Odds of taking that long to catch him:  1.92%&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Good luck to all...hope yours is better than mine was.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;W
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			<title>spam1107 on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 18:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It took me over 3000 casts over the last couple days to catch Old Crafty in phased Org, but I finally did it. I definitely started to think it was broken as I past 3000 casts but woke up this morning, fished twice, and there he was. So as of today, he is still catchable.
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			<title>Wolfang on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 05:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Wolfang</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Been fishing for days now in Orgrimmar...over 3000 casts.  Got the 1 ring, 17lb, 19lb and 22lb catfish...no Old Crafty.  I think it's broken.
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			<title>Keff on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:41:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Keff</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Can confirm that I was able to fish up Old Crafty in phased Orgrimmar today. Checked the daily in Outland before going but wasn't the crocolisk quest so figured I would just skill up anyway and try my luck.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Took about 3 hours, roughly 600 fish and a handful of the usual odds and sods before I pulled him out. Relatively lucky but nothing to suggest that the patch changed anything.
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			<title>heathisrael on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>heathisrael</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;&#60;cite&#62;Kylkiluut &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/old-crafty-still-fishable-in-phased-orgrimmar#post-4174&#34; title=&#34;View original post.&#34;&#62;wrote&#60;/a&#62;:&#60;/cite&#62;&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62;Whoa!&#60;br /&#62;
I am SOOO far behind...&#60;br /&#62;
First... 'phased' Orgr?  What is that?&#60;br /&#62;
Second... 6 in one night, one in 20 casts to catch Ol' Crafty?  I bet I have over a 1000 casts in Orgr and SW and have never caught the 'Big' one.  Perhaps the quest makes it a non-rare drop?  Or am I just world-class confused?&#60;br /&#62;
Thanks.&#60;/p&#62;
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&#60;p&#62;you're world-class behind....go get the 'Crockolisk in the City' outland daily quest.  for some reason, just having the quest GREATLY increases your chances of catching Ol'Crafty (make sure you TURN AUTOLOOT OFF...you'll catch the crock every time, just don't loot it and keep casting till you get ol'Crafty.  like insanely better odds.  6 of us caught him in one night...everyone in less than 30 casts.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;&#34;Phased Orgr&#34; ...the epic quest chain in Dragonblight that ends in the cinematic...after the cinematic, you go to Ogrimar to talk to Thrall. Orgrimar is phased and there's no 'hostile' guards, or any Horde, the whole city is open to you...and there's no travel time as you use a portal from SW.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I tried the ol'crafty bug in IronForge as well...after 50 casts i gave up. never read anywhere that it works in IF...just Org for some reason.
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			<title>Kylkiluut on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:02:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Whoa!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I am SOOO far behind...&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;First... 'phased' Orgr?  What is that?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Second... 6 in one night, one in 20 casts to catch Ol' Crafty?  I bet I have over a 1000 casts in Orgr and SW and have never caught the 'Big' one.  Perhaps the quest makes it a non-rare drop?  Or am I just world-class confused?&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Thanks.
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			<title>heathisrael on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>heathisrael</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Actually, fishing up ol'crafty in phased Orgrimmar did work as of mid January 2009. I was unaware of the fishing daily -ol'crafty bug until that night.  &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;About about 6 of us in my guild all caught him the same night. One of us still had the quest where you go to Orgrimmar and he caught ol'crafty in about 7 casts...in phased Orgrimmar.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Took me about 20 casts in regular Orgrimmar.
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			<title>Anaxiamander on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 11:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Anaxiamander</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I suspect not, actually. I just got the quest after the patch, and fishing in phased Orgrimmar didn't even give me The Fishing Diplomat. Judging by that, I'd wager that phased Orgrimmar doesn't even count as Orgrimmar at all.
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			<title>Azaguth on "Old Crafty still fishable in phased Orgrimmar?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Azaguth</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;There is a two day overlap between the Elders event and the Love is in the Air event.  The 11th and 12th, both events will be active.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That being said, I'll be on a unit sponosored marriage retreat (US Army) from the 13th through the 16th.  So I'll be trying to do all the elders before the 11th, so on the 11th and 12th I can focus on the Love achievements.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;That being said, I thought about the phased Orgrimmar for old crafty, and I don't know why it'd make a difference.  It took me quite a few more casts than 500 in a non-phased orgrimmar, so don't give up just yet.  The quest chain only takes a couple hours to complete, and if you have all the other elders you can fish up til the 12th, run through the quest chain, and get your orgrimmar elder (and the undercity one) for the elder achievement completion.
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