http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:55:24 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6270 Tue, 19 May 2009 10:57:35 +0000 heraklen 6270@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>anakhahawk <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6259" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>I've not attempted the Extravaganza but am keen to give it a go when I can free up a Sunday afternoon. I have a quick question about handing in:<br /> Is there a shortcut key to target the NPC and initiate chat to hand in the 40 fish. Was wondering if there was a way to get around the problem of people on mounts covering the NPC ?<br /> Thank You</p></blockquote> <p>You can also press V to get up the name/healtbars to be able to klick on that bar to target the NPC. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6268 Tue, 19 May 2009 07:39:19 +0000 anakhahawk 6268@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>wyrmsmom <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6267" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Alas, I haven't yet had to deal with this particular problem, but applying some baby spices (from Dalaran cooking quests) often helps me find a flight master when someone is on a mammoth mount sitting on top of him/her. Also helps when the offending player is sitting on a tasty fish school.</p></blockquote> <p>Don't know why I hadn't thought of that!<br /> Thanks wyrm :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6267 Mon, 18 May 2009 22:48:46 +0000 Al 6267@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Alas, I haven't yet had to deal with this particular problem, but applying some baby spices (from Dalaran cooking quests) often helps me find a flight master when someone is on a mammoth mount sitting on top of him/her. Also helps when the offending player is sitting on a tasty fish school. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6259 Mon, 18 May 2009 11:41:59 +0000 anakhahawk 6259@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I've not attempted the Extravaganza but am keen to give it a go when I can free up a Sunday afternoon. I have a quick question about handing in:<br /> Is there a shortcut key to target the NPC and initiate chat to hand in the 40 fish. Was wondering if there was a way to get around the problem of people on mounts covering the NPC ?</p> <p>Thank You </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6257 Mon, 18 May 2009 09:43:52 +0000 Deatharon 6257@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won this event today. I went to the east coast, as far north as possible, around 20 minutes before the competition started. 15 minutes before the start, I was ganked by 3 Horde. I decided to spirit rez and run as quickly as I could go Gazban's Isle, remembering a post on this forum.</p> <p>It worked. I stayed on the isle, or the coast 50yds in either direction. One Horde (part of the gank squad) rode by, but I saw him before he saw me, and managed to run westerly enough to avoid him. A fellow Alliance stopped for a bit to compete with me for a node, but quickly left when he saw that there were so few nodes around.</p> <p>I used most of the tricks I found here and on wowhead(macro to keep track of tastyfish, re-casting when in even the slightest doubt about whether the bobber was on target, etc) and basically got to 40 with no trouble at all. I hearthed, claimed the hook, and that was that. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-6253 Sun, 17 May 2009 21:40:31 +0000 Faderaven 6253@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>mart4510 <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2444" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Hi all,</p> <p>I've won this event twice now. I have it easier as I'm not on a pvp server...and I've never seen a mammoth blocking a fishing pool.<br /> - Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?<br /> I used Water Walking potions, a Glowworm (only have to apply one bobber for the whole event) and made some Captain Ramsey's Lager. I had caught the turtle mount earlier that day but I'd go with the WW potions - much faster.<br /> - Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?<br /> No.<br /> - Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?<br /> I found a good spot. Its a cove below Grom'gol. Many pools spawn there and respawn like crazy during the event. Also, since it's a cove the curved shoreline means there is less travel time between pools.<br /> - Have you ever won the tournament from solely fishing at the lake and rivers outside of ZG by those venture mining company goblins?<br /> No. </p></blockquote> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-5094 Sat, 04 Apr 2009 09:41:15 +0000 Oom 5094@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>mart4510 <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2444" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Hi all,<br /> I have a question for those of you who won the tournament in the past through regular means (ie: won because of a server restart, low number of competitors...etc)<br /> I'm mainly interested in non-twinks as twinks obviously need to work much harder then level 70 toons:<br /> - Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?<br /> - Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?<br /> - Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?<br /> - Have you ever won the tournament from solely fishing at the lake and rivers outside of ZG by those venture mining company goblins?<br /> I am interested in hearing from you and I would like to see what strategies past winners have used. Clearly it comes down to luck... where you are on the map relative to other people... spawns of the pools... etc.</p></blockquote> <p>I've attempted the fishing contest 4 times, 3 for myself, once for a friend. I've won 2/4 times (both on different characters)</p> <p>My first attempt I didn't do much reading on it, just decided I'd try it. Didn't even set my hearth to BB. I hung out south of BB and that was a terrible idea. The 2 times I did win, I had my hearth set, I scouted the area before hand (west coast, north and south of Grom'Gol) and I had swim speed pots (for my mage) just incase. I won both times in BC, pre-achievement patch :P</p> <p>Stay away from the pools half buried, you will have Los problems. Stay away from crowded pools as well. I didn't have any guildies helping me.</p> <p>Best of luck to you! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-5092 Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:44:16 +0000 Zallanada 5092@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won STV Sunday the 29th of March, 2009 on Korialstrasz, a PvE realm.</p> <p>I used my epic mount, crusader aura, two potions of water walking and three sharpened fish hooks to secure my victory. I used my <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=6367">Big Iron Fishing Pole</a>. This pole has <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19971">High Test Eternium Line</a>, and has now won me two STV tourneys, as it is the best pole that can be passed from toon-to-toon. I had no fishing enchants, no other fishing gear, and ~325 fishing skill.</p> <p>I flew to BB 15 minutes prior to the start of the contest and set my hearth there; this gave me the power to end the contest when I caught my 40th tastyfish.</p> <p>I moved fish to actionkey 1, and assigned mousewheel up as a secondary key for actionkey 1; this let me mousewheel up to cast/re-cast. My rod was also hotkeyed, as were my lures and my potions. I enabled autolooting. The fishing process was as simple as wheeling up until a good cast hit, and right clicking to autoloot. Since my rod was hotkeyed next to my bait, that was another short click-cast away. I cleared my main bag and kept it open to track my progress. (I will look into writing a good STV macro... there must be an elegant solution.)</p> <p>I positioned myself prominently on the peninsula opposite north of Gazban's Isle prior to the start of the contest; this placed me within easy reach of the nodes immediately along the coast to the west. It also made this stretch of land more crowded, discouraging fishing there from the start.</p> <p>I baited up at 13:57 server time, so I would start the contest with a lure on. Once it did, I fished out the nodes on the peninsula and to the west. After competitors arrived, I popped the water-walking potion, mounted up, and hit the nodes on Gazban's Isle. By alternating between the isle and the shore, I could avoid knots of competitors. I rebaited and potioned on the island, and stayed in this general area until my third bait. Then I hit the shore and went southeast until I hit my quota and hearthed.</p> <p>A rude surprise awaited me in BB. A flagged Night Elf on a warbear had positioned himself right over Bassbait at the turn-in. The jerk was spinning around and it took me about a minute to double click past him to end the competition. Heaven help me had I been horde. =P </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-5061 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:57:36 +0000 Pipre 5061@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The biggest advantage in the fishing tourney right now is path of frost or waterwalking, which allows you to quickly get to pools that are offshore. Pools that would otherwise be off limits. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win/page/2#post-5057 Tue, 31 Mar 2009 12:25:03 +0000 Gihelle 5057@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I help my guildies with my DK, nowadays... she has a Sons of Hodir mammoth and she's Unholy with the 15% speed aura. </p> <p>It's not as fast as Crusader Aura, but it saves the time to mount/dismount. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-5030 Sun, 29 Mar 2009 21:45:26 +0000 Toli 5030@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I just won today and I only used walking on water potions. I stayed on yojumba isle and the isle next to it with the water elementals. No one helped me. Last week the isle had like 0 spawn pts and tons of players there this week it still had a lot of players about 4 but also a lot of spawn pts. I followed what it said on here if another player was there I cast one to two times and then moved on. If I doubted that my bobber was in the pool I'd recast. I just wanted to let people know what I did to win so maybe it would help some other people out in the future!</p> <p>Toli-Nordrassil realm </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-3133 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:24:35 +0000 erin 3133@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Thank you all for contributing your tips, and the OP for introducing this topic. I've been trying for several months, I'll get there eventually! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-3040 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:07:01 +0000 Sharina 3040@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>-Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?<br /> I am a warlock so I don't really get "running" bonuses.<br /> I just used a riding crop and my epic land mount.</p> <p>- Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?</p> <p>No. This is extremely important as I am in a guild with a lot of people.<br /> Absolutely nobody helped me. Most of them don't even bother with the contest and many of them think fishing is boring and worthless. No help whatsoever from those people.</p> <p>- Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?</p> <p>I traveled up and down the coast until I saw a pool that spawned that NO ONE is fishing at.<br /> Consider that if you "wait" for pools to spawn, this is adding time to your strategy. You will not win using this strategy. You want to minimize time spent "waiting" and spend more time fishing. So you need to move on.</p> <p>The strategy I used is KEEP MOVING. Fish at pools where no one is there. If someone shows up to your pool, finish your current bobber and MOVE ON. Abandon the pool. Consider if you stay at that pool, you will fight with the other person or people for any remaining fish. This adds time to your strategy and will make it difficult for you to win.<br /> Don't get mad because they "stole" your pool. Mount and move on to a new pool.</p> <p>Keep moving along the coast and fish where no one is fishing. DO NOT engage the opposite faction. I repeat, DO NOT take time to kill the opposite faction -- this will only hamper their efforts, cause them to get mad, they will come after you. In addition, the time you spend killing the opposite faction is precious time you could be spending fishing.</p> <p>You're not here to PvP, you're here to win the contest. If you want to PvP, there is plenty of time for that OUTSIDE of the fishing contest. Winning is 1st priority.</p> <p>If you die even once, you've already lost. I'm not even kidding about this. The extra time to run back to your corpse will cost you the win on more competitive servers. I found that on my server if I died, I lost. Those precious few seconds/minutes cannot be wasted.</p> <p>Do not stop to help people who are getting ganked -- This is extremely crucial. You want to minimize ANYTHING that could take away time from fishing, including helping someone who is getting ganked. I know that's terrible for "pvp" mentality, but don't help them.</p> <p>All you're doing is risking yourself and again, if you die, you've lost it. We're talking about at best a 20 minute window in order for you to win. Every minute counts.</p> <p>This contest is every man or woman for him/herself. Remember that and don't expect anyone to help you.</p> <p>- Have you ever won the tournament from solely fishing at the lake and rivers outside of ZG by those venture mining company goblins?</p> <p>I tried this initially and it failed. On my server low level twinks "hired" high level players to guard them when they fished these 3-4 pools. To me it's a waste of time, but this highly depends on your server. If you find that no one is out there, try it, but I think that eventually you'll get to a point where the pools don't spawn fast enough. This is where this strategy could make you fail because you'll have to swim to the main land and that wastes precious time.</p> <p>I won only after several months of attempts, on a Day 1 (2004) PvP server. The contest has been extremely popular on my server since it was introduced, so it was extremely difficult to win during the days of no achievements.</p> <p>When I finally went into the contest with a "don't help anyone, avoid ALL PEOPLE" mentality, I won the contest.</p> <p>Be sure to set your hearth to Booty Bay. If you die, keep trying until a winner is announced but brace yourself for the loss. If you lose, remind yourself that there is always next time.</p> <p>Most of the people who win, at least on my server, win after repeated attempts, frustrations, and the like. Acknowledge that you'll have to endure these hardships to win.</p> <p>Remember, fish where no one is fishing. If someone starts fishing in your pool, finish your bobber and abandon that pool. The precious time is not worth fighting with other people for the remaining fish. Move on to a fresh pool. Keep yourself moving and AVOID ALL PEOPLE - HORDE/ALLIANCE/TWINKS - avoid people period. Fish where no one is fishing.</p> <p>If everyone is going south, go north and vice versa. Keep in mind the pools respawn regardless if anyone is actually there or not -- so it benefits you to explore areas where there are no people.</p> <p>Don't stop to help anyone getting killed (are you here to PvP or are you here to WIN?)</p> <p>I should also add here that if you see someone getting ganked, DON'T fish the new pool right next to where the fighting is going on. Go FAR AWAY from wherever that person is getting killed so you don't risk the same thing happening to you. Hardcore PvPers, I know it's hard to think like this, but you're here to win a contest involving fish...you're not here to PvP, you're here to win a contest.</p> <p>Avoid any PvPing - if there's ganking, go far away from those people unless you want the same thing to happen to you. Even if you see 2 pools nearby, don't stop and fish those...continue moving until you're far enough away that you can fish safely.</p> <p>If you catch 2 fish but you die and it takes you 2-3 minutes to run back to your corpse, that can contribute to a loss.</p> <p>Don't bother attacking the opposite faction unless you're sure you can kill them in like 15 seconds or something. I didn't stop to kill anyone during my win. If I had, I would have lost. Don't waste time on that.</p> <p>Even then, all you're doing is putting yourself at risk of getting camped by that person and potentially any friends he calls in. By then you've lost.</p> <p>Stay positive. If you lose, think about the things during the attempt that contributed to your loss. Try to make sure those same things don't happen again the following week. Take each loss and LEARN from the experience.</p> <p>If something happened in this week's attempt that you're sure contributed to your loss, try to adapt so the same thing doesn't happen in the next attempt. Each time you lose, you have valuable experience and information you can learn from for the next attempt. It is important to look back on what you may have done wrong (fishing around too many people, not abandoning pools when you should have) so you can adapt and win.</p> <p>-Salty Sharina, Azgalor (US) PvP </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-3036 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:10:03 +0000 Kunjana 3036@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Secretsauce! I think I was standing next to you at the fountain when you made Salty. :)</p> <p>Congratulations on that; Salty is an AWESOME title for your name. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-3027 Tue, 25 Nov 2008 07:36:42 +0000 Sauce 3027@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won the competition for the second time this past Sunday, got my trinket and it is awesome. I started this game on a PvP server, within the past year I rerolled PvE so that's the server I do my fishing on. I would say I've only seriously fished the competition about 10-12 times, which is not bad considering I'm on a densely populated server. My favorite spot is the area south of Grom'gol, which El describes in the guide; however, I have helped people win the contest in other locations, so there is no best spot.</p> <p>- Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?</p> <p>Mostly mount, but I'm a shaman so I have water walking so that helps a lot for certain pools. In my last win, I was mounted over water for the entire event. Also, I keep a swiftness potion on me to sprint from the inn to the turn in guy just in case.</p> <p>- Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?</p> <p>Never. All my attempts have been a solo show. I'm not against helping people though as long as there is no foul play (jumping on bobbers, camping the turn-in guy, etc). I coordinated with a guildie on vent, acted as a scout for pools and provided water walking, and that guildie ended up winning. So sometimes 2 heads are better than 1.</p> <p>- Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?</p> <p>I have a certain route that I like to stay on, which consists of "end points" that I mark on the map. So instead of camping a few pools, I do a little bit of traveling. Keep in mind that the extravaganza is a dynamic event, I don't mindlessly run the same route over and over again, you probably won't win that way. I always look to see which direction people are traveling, then try to predict where the pools will be based on that. The majority of my finishes have been with more than 35 tastyfish.</p> <p>If you want any more advice, hit me up on the Medivh server. I'm retired from the competition now but always willing to help others win. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2587 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 16:52:12 +0000 Kunjana 2587@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won without anything fancy, not even a click-to-cast fish mod or autoloot on. </p> <p>All I did was set my hearth to BB then work my way down from the top of the western coast, hitting non-occupied nodes along the way. This was a while ago so there was no Track Fish ability; I had to swing my camera out to keep an eye out for tastyfish schools.</p> <p>I would imagine waterwalking elixirs would be extremely helpful, but even without all the new-fangled bells and whistles you can win. Just make sure your hearth is set to BB and don't waste your time with any pool that has more than 1 person at it. Also if you're really dead-set on winning this thing, take advantage of the leveling and exploring WotLK madness and prioritize hitting the tourney for the next few weekends. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2579 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 09:32:28 +0000 Analith 2579@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>My favorite spot was Yojamba Isle, by far.</p> <p><strong>- Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?</strong><br /> I once used up 10 Elixirs of Water Walking, and I had some pots of swiftness on hand too.<br /> <strong>- Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?</strong><br /> On Maelstrom I had a few people that helped me out, needed escorts. On Sisters of Elune though, totally solo.<br /> <strong>- Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?</strong><br /> Once I found a spot I liked I stayed there. If others moved in, I just went down the coast and back to my spots soon afterwards.<br /> <strong>- Have you ever won the tournament from solely fishing at the lake and rivers outside of ZG by those venture mining company goblins?</strong><br /> What. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2575 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 08:10:50 +0000 Yoco 2575@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I won three times, spread over two characters on two realms. Both were high level characters at the time of their win (level 70 and 68), and both are on pve realms.</p> <p>The first two wins were long ago, back in the time when the fishing casting bar was still 30 seconds, but after the initial popularity of the tournament. The last win was more recent, but long before the achievement system increased the popularity of the tournament.</p> <p><em>- Do you use running or swimming speed potions or do you just rely on your mount to get you places?</em></p> <p>Just mount and having 'track fish' active</p> <p><em>- Do you have guildmates / other people helping you to win the tournament?</em></p> <p>Nope. Being high level and on a pve realm, I don't see how guildies would be helpful (except to sabotage others - but I won't go there)</p> <p><em>- Do you camp the same pools and patrol them until one spawns or do you just travel up or down the coast?</em></p> <p>For the earlier wins I mostly traveled, trying to find stretches of coast with few others. For the last win I mostly stuck to northmost coast (avoiding the troll island and its twinks, but definitely including the water elemental island). If you understand how the fish pools work, you would realize that camping a single pool is probaly not a good strategy: whenever any pool is emptied another one spawns, chosen randomly from the 'inactive' pools. If you wait at an inactive spawn spot you are not emptying other pools, so you are not causing respawns. In the extreme case, if you were alone, you would wait indefinitely, because 'your' pool won't ever respawn as long as others are up. No, there is no such thing as a 'respawn timer' - respawns are purely caused by other pools being emptied.</p> <p><em>- Have you ever won the tournament from solely fishing at the lake and rivers outside of ZG by those venture mining company goblins?</em></p> <p>Nope. I didn't even realize there were tasty fish pools there. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2561 Wed, 12 Nov 2008 00:17:05 +0000 Gummo 2561@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I don't use special potions/gear, but the new rogue glyph "blurred speed" that lets rogues sprint on water really helps. I've only done 2 serious attempts at the contest with it, first time I had 39 fish when the winner was announced, and the second time I just caught my 40th when the winner was announced. I usually fish around the southeastern tip, starting at the islands by the ships. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2556 Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:36:23 +0000 Yender 2556@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Morbanth <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/open-forum-to-past-champions-do-you-use-special-potions-gear-to-win#post-2527" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>-I camped the small stretch from the waterfall south of Grom'Gol to the bend in the coast, there's about 5 pools there but they kept respawning constantly. Hardly ever had to move. </p></blockquote> <p>I too used this fishing spot to win the competition. Even as alliance this is one of the best places to fish and I highly recommend you try it. </p>