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El's Extreme Anglin' - WoW Fishing Guide » Topic: Sea Turtle Problem http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:04:55 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 <![CDATA[Search]]> q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php kirby on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-7847 Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:24:45 +0000 kirby 7847@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ LMAO i caught it in 1 cast found it in an imperial manta ray school gubiithefish on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-7831 Sat, 20 Feb 2010 02:59:03 +0000 gubiithefish 7831@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Ehh, no offence but I was boored and wanted to get some time going. So I went down to a fishing spot, say a pool and tought "wtf?" After 3 fishes I get the turtle, Guild reaction; HOW THE #@$£ DID YOU GET IT? I was like, fishing in a pool i guess? and when I read ppl online they are like OMG I BEEN FISHING FOR 27 MONTH EVERY DAY ABOUT 24293 FISHES (even having controle over the number is crazy) AND I HAVEN'T CAUGHT THE FRIKKKING TURTLE YEEEEEEET... - So, I was lucky. 3 catches guys and the turtle was mine :) - - Regards Gubii - Kul'Tiras Clocked on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-7829 Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:24:58 +0000 Clocked 7829@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ 25 hrs of fishing over 5 days and i finally got this beast, wasnt even paying too much attention and off the coast of Moaki in a pool the little guy finally came to me :) justBrando on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6498 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:05:23 +0000 justBrando 6498@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ I think its listed under the guide, but a great point is that the Dalaran fishing dailies require players to normally fish in open water. Considering the incredible number of people who do this, we would have known by now if the mount could be caught in open water. Xi on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6492 Tue, 16 Jun 2009 01:02:59 +0000 Xi 6492@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Wow. 0.01% doesn't seem quite right, then? Quite a few people have the turtle, most seem to get it before 5000 catches. I would guess 0.02% is more likely. Gummo on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6489 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:10:21 +0000 Gummo 6489@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ To have a 90% chance of catching it from the word go, assuming it's a 1/10,000 chance per cast, you'd need 23,025 catches. Chance of missing on every cast: (9999/10000)^23024 = .100006996776643337166645285289 (9999/10000)^23025 = .099996996076965672832928620761 For a 50% shot, you'd need 6,932 casts. Xi on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6488 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 20:27:53 +0000 Xi 6488@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ So that's 1/10000? How many fish will I need to catch in order to have a 90% chance of getting it?/10% chance of not getting it, or however it works. Bogath on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6487 Mon, 15 Jun 2009 19:12:17 +0000 Bogath 6487@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ I've spoken to a GM about this issue, he told me that "you need to be fishing in schools and the drop rate is the same everywhere". AND he told me the drop chance is about 0.01%. Screenshot: <a href="http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt273/bogath/Turtle%20Mount/?action=view&current=GM1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt273/bogath/Turtle%20Mount/?action=view&current=GM1.jpg</a> Xi on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6478 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 20:12:47 +0000 Xi 6478@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ The thing is, I know someone who fished it up from open water, and that person is trustworthy. If it's only supposed to appear in schools, then maybe the item is bugged. I've seen several posts online of people claiming to have fished it out of open water, too. I've no reason not to believe them. Thing is, people only really fish in schools, so most of the reports of people finding it are obviously going to be from schools. seaborn on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6476 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 19:04:44 +0000 seaborn 6476@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ This one is a tough subject. You seem to have a Gm saying one thing, other GM's saying another. my opinion is they put this mount in the schools so that the fish bots, as there are many, could not catch the mount. I don't know for a fact that it cant be caught in open water, but if it could, I think we would see a lot of the fish bots talking about how they got it in open water. Isa on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6474 Sun, 14 Jun 2009 16:49:07 +0000 Isa 6474@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ I got it out of a pool. Alaylith on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6453 Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:40:42 +0000 Alaylith 6453@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <cite>Azaguth <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6432" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite> <blockquote>an 80 mob in Skettis? Sounds like a fluke...</blockquote> It was lvl 70, the highest level back then. ;) The cat's name was Hawkbane. Azaguth on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6432 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:29:12 +0000 Azaguth 6432@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ an 80 mob in Skettis? Sounds like a fluke... Celwinde on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6431 Mon, 08 Jun 2009 14:08:49 +0000 Celwinde 6431@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Spoonzilla, I've been given misinformation from GMs before. There was a level 80 white tiger mob in Skettis at one point. He was an elite rare mob that spawned in the back of the cave where the black tigers are located. When I found out about this mob and went to tame him on my Hunter, I discovered he didn't seem to be in game anymore. After a countless number of tickets were submitted to GMs by many Hunters, we were told by most of them they can't give out game tips and tricks. A few of them confirmed he was still in the game, but may have changed location, and some of them said he was no longer in game. Suffice it to say, it wasn't too much longer we found out for sure the mob really had been removed from the game without explanation. So even though it's a GM, take the information they give you with a grain of salt. Spoonzilla on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6425 Sun, 07 Jun 2009 23:36:56 +0000 Spoonzilla 6425@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ I was looking up this achievement on WoWhead (<a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=3218" rel="nofollow">http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=3218</a>) and ManBearPgg linked a chat with a GM, who confirmed that this mount can be caught in open water. Chat: <a href="http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/431/seaturtlegmchat.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/431/seaturtlegmchat.jpg</a> el on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-6383 Sat, 30 May 2009 08:21:11 +0000 el 6383@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <a href="http://blue.mmo-champion.com/1/17367981451-sea-turtle-looking-for-blue-confirmation.html">Crygil</a>: <blockquote>"The word from on high is thus: 'The Turtle mount should, currently, only be found in pools throughout Northrend.' ... There has been some genuine confusion on this topic, largely due to reports of players receiving the Turtle Mount from something other than a pool. Hopefully, this alleviates some of that confusion. We're also looking into the legitimacy of claims to have acquired the mount, from other bodies of water."</blockquote> el on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-5672 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 11:01:39 +0000 el 5672@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Open water <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/sea_turtle.html" title="Fish Finder - Sea Turtle." class="nocolor" rel="item=46109">Sea Turtle</a> catches... <ul> <li>One-off claims are difficult to confirm. For example, there is no combat log record of where fish came from. And there are a plethora of freak events that can lead to such claims, such as a pool respawning where someone was fishing: It is statistically very unlikely to happen, but with enough people fishing, it will occur.</li> <li>"Pools" is easy to mis-translate, because a pool could also be read as a body of water, like a lake. "Pools" isn't a Blizzard word. They would normally refers to "schools of fish", although they've used other words in the past, like "shoals". I use "pools" here because so many of these "fishing nodes" aren't schools of fish at all - <a href="/fish/?s=Pure Water" title="Fish Finder - Pure Water.">Pure Water</a>, <a href="/fish/?s=Floating Wreckage" title="Fish Finder - Floating Wreckage.">Floating Wreckage</a>. Node is a programming term, which I try and avoid using here.</li> <li>Some GMs have also been reported as saying the turtle can be caught from any water in Northrend. I'm surprised they are giving game-play information out. Unfortunately most GMs simply read documentation, so are prone to the same misunderstandings as translators.</li> </ul> In contrast: <ul> <li>The English patch notes, and the achievement, very clearly state "pools". Those tend to be written by developers/designers, so are likely to be more reliable.</li> <li>One of the reasons most anglers are reporting pool catches is because the patch notes, achievements, guides, and the experience of everyone else they know says "pools", so that's the only place they are trying. But there is also a lot of open-water fishing happening. Most of the daily quest catches are not fished from pools. Millions of open-water catches: If there was anything unusual in the water, we would have heard about it by now.</li> </ul> So... I cannot rule out the possibility that the <a href="/fish/?s=Sea Turtle" title="Fish Finder - Sea Turtle.">Sea Turtle</a> can be caught from open water. But "weight of evidence" is strongly towards pool catches. That said, I'm very interested in detailed confirmation of open-water catches. Added a bit on the word "pool": From a <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pool">US dictionary</a>: <blockquote><ol> <li>a (1): a small and rather deep body of usually fresh water (2): a quiet place in a stream (3): a body of water forming above a dam b: something resembling a pool (a pool of light)</li> <li>a small body of standing liquid</li> <li>a continuous area of porous sedimentary rock that yields petroleum or gas</li> <li>swimming pool [recreational]</li> </ol></blockquote> Curiously, that source cites an old-Germanic word " pfuol" in the etymology. None of those definitions can apply to seas, or large bodies of water. And therefore "Northrend fishing pools" are not the same as "fishable open water in Northrend". Nonzor on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-5662 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 05:44:15 +0000 Nonzor 5662@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ I've talked to a few people on my server who have gotten the Sea Turtle, and we all got it from fishing in a pool/school/node - that is, a specific, sparkling place that is named when you mouse over it. It's my understanding that it comes only from the pools. Best of luck! Sevira on "Sea Turtle Problem" http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem#post-5656 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 02:43:38 +0000 Sevira 5656@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ the main problem I have is not that i have over 3k fished objects and yet no turtle the problem is that I don't know if the turtle is really only fishable in schools in the english patchnotes it says "fishing pools" in every achievement-description where blizz talks about interaction with schools they call them "nodes" or "schools" in the german version they text implies that you can fish the turtle in every open water where you can fish additionally a friend of mine just got the turtle today and told me he was fishing in open water so, what to believe now? all I see on the internet is people claiming they got the turtle from schools but actually getting it from a school doesn't mean you won't get it from open water as well, right? I mean, is this just a bad translation in the german version or could it possibly be that hundred of people just missunderstood something? my english is a bit rusted and therefore I'm totally unsure if I just misunderstood something in the german and/or english patchnotes or if they just misstranslated it I mean, did anyone hear from someone else getting the turtle from open water?