http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sat, 20 Mar 2010 02:58:44 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/3#post-5902 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 16:21:19 +0000 Zarkano 5902@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Something I've done every fishing tournament is to have my non-combat pet Egbert out. His constant running around and splashing serves as a distraction to others, especially those that rely on sound to hear their bobber. I've noticed on more than one occasion that a rival will mistakenly click on his bobber when Egbert runs near the pool.</p> <p>And the most success I have is fishing the 6 pool nodes at the Ruins of Aborraz. Fewer twinks and when there are no pools spawned, everyone rides south to find another. I just patiently position myself at the tip of the land between the 2 sets of 3 proximal nodes and wait for the pools to appear. Yes, I lose a minute, but when the pools pop, there's no one around and I've seen as many as 3 pools appear at once. I usually empty at least 2 of those pools before anyone shows up. </p> <p>Additionally, I always fish this area. Persistence will guarantee that sooner or later, the RNG will spawn the number of pools in this particular area you need to win the tourney. The week I won it, the pools popped non-stop and it took 19 minutes to win.</p> <p>And perhaps it's my imagination, but I get a much higher proportion of junk fish when the pool I fish is shared with others.</p> <p>edit:</p> <p>And the week I lost it, i was in this same area. Had 40 tastyfish in my pack and found out my hearth still needed 4 minutes. Tried riding to town and made it to the entrance of BB just as the winner was announced. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/3#post-5898 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:32:30 +0000 Kamaria 5898@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>moose <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5897" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Still no win for me. This week I had 37 when winner was announced. I was kinda hoping that less people would be there and would be out working on Noblegarden, but it seemed there were about the same number of people. But I shall keep trying!</p></blockquote> <p>I won my second tournament on Easter Sunday.<br /> Perhaps your chances will be better at waiting for a national holiday rather than an in game one. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5897 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:14:18 +0000 moose 5897@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Still no win for me. This week I had 37 when winner was announced. I was kinda hoping that less people would be there and would be out working on Noblegarden, but it seemed there were about the same number of people. But I shall keep trying! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5879 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:42:31 +0000 Kamaria 5879@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Gonah <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5872" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>From the years I spent fishing in the full 2 hours as a twink, I was able to notice where the higher concentration of alliance are and where the horde are. To me the absolute most important thing to really win it is to bring help. You don't want to sit there and fish in a crowd of your own faction. Sounds weird but if you can bring enough help.. maybe only 4-5 people. You are able to clear out the other faction and have a whole area just to yourself, and your own faction won't be there stealing your pools.<br /> Of course if you can't bring help, or I guess on a pve server. Then you need to fish where people aren't at. Whatever you do avoid the crowds and of course you need to do most of what is suggested above (setting hearth stone, using water walking... etc) but all of that is common knowledge at this point.</p></blockquote> <p>To end the un-nerving effect of fishing with the opposite faction, I always wear the Belbi's Eyesight Enhancing Romance Goggles.<br /> Hell, winning a fishing tournament is only easier if all you see is gnomes. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5878 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:39:09 +0000 Kamaria 5878@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I am really sorry to hear that.<br /> One player I really felt for , was my second tournament victory.<br /> After I turned it in, there was a flagged horde right next to me.</p> <p>Not sure what his story was, but I am willing to say he was eight seconds too late. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5872 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:06:27 +0000 Gonah 5872@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>From the years I spent fishing in the full 2 hours as a twink, I was able to notice where the higher concentration of alliance are and where the horde are. To me the absolute most important thing to really win it is to bring help. You don't want to sit there and fish in a crowd of your own faction. Sounds weird but if you can bring enough help.. maybe only 4-5 people. You are able to clear out the other faction and have a whole area just to yourself, and your own faction won't be there stealing your pools.</p> <p>Of course if you can't bring help, or I guess on a pve server. Then you need to fish where people aren't at. Whatever you do avoid the crowds and of course you need to do most of what is suggested above (setting hearth stone, using water walking... etc) but all of that is common knowledge at this point. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-5855 Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:16:34 +0000 jonhuddo 5855@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>My server is Blackrock (US)</p> <p>It is a historically Australian server though so all my friends and I are still on it. This means for me every week I have to stay up/ wake up at FOUR THIRTY AM Monday morning for the comp which starts at 5am my time ;-(</p> <p>I can't get any friends to wake up at this hour and help...</p> <p>What's worse is the last 4 weeks the comp has been won in under 17mins</p> <p>FML </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4425 Mon, 16 Feb 2009 23:00:25 +0000 Triseult 4425@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Don't give up... The good news is, if you came THIS close to winning, it means you used a winning strategy and just need a little more luck. It happened to me, and the next week after I won the tournament. :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4413 Sun, 15 Feb 2009 20:39:04 +0000 moose 4413@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>*cry* I had my 40 fish, hearthed back to BB and right as I was walking up to the guy someone else won it. Sad thing is I had eleven non-tastyfish catches like the stranglekelp, etc. There were at least 2 times were I felt like I should've moved to a different spot but stayed. So I know I could have won if I played a little smarter. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4178 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 20:42:50 +0000 Triseult 4178@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I don't know that it ever relents... I did the Tournament the Sunday following the release of WotLK, and it was still a very competitive thing. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4175 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:03:38 +0000 heathisrael 4175@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>the thing is, preLK, you could win the tourney with strategy....postLK, it really does just take luck to win because there's so much more competition and everyone's using all the tricks at their disposal. </p> <p>The must luck I've had in WoW can be summed up in the tourney (preLK mind-you...just after BC released I believe):</p> <p>1st tourney= win<br /> 2nd tourney= win<br /> 3rd tourney= stopped fishing after 1 rare fish catch<br /> 4th tourney= stopped fishing after I cought the other 2 rare fish</p> <p>I'm a crappy roller...never had a random epic world drop...but i'll take my tourney luck thank you. :)</p> <p>***one other thought is...you might have better luck towards the end of the school year...a lot of the Christmas Gift players won't be on any more...parents who are paying for their kids' subscriptions will be tired of paying (economy factor thrown in)...and the college kids will be theoretically cramming for finals. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4173 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:02:02 +0000 Triseult 4173@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>From reading the advice of those who won pre-3.0.1, I do believe there's a LOT more competition for the Contest now. I've never been able to fish by myself, because all pools were shared; when I tried to just move on whenever a pool was being shared, I ended up simply not getting any fish.</p> <p>New times... Definitely more competitive, and I don't see how that's gonna ever slow down (there are potentially a lot more people interested in the title than there are weeks in a year.) But it makes winning it all the sweeter. :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4168 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:29:13 +0000 beachmystic 4168@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Before the achievement system I had won the Tournament twice, and then abstained from it so others could win. I was around lvl 40 and skill was around 260-275. Both times I used the eastern shore. I had also caught 2 of the tournament rare fish in addition to three or four of the "one that didn't get away" fish, most notably the rockhide strongfish. Then about a year and half ago I decided to stop playing WoW as it was taking up way too much of my time, and was negatively affecting my health. I was the leader of a 100+ member guild at the time, I sold ALL of my possesions and gave the proceeds to the next guild leader. I was done with WoW, or so I thought. I then deleted my character. After about a year off, I got the bug again and started playing Guild Wars, it was OK for a while, but it still pales in comparison to WoW. I started a new account, as it was too long a time to revive my deleted character, used the same name from my deleted character and started playing again. Rejoined my guild, though I am no longer Guildmaster, and started out at level 1 once again. Now I am lvl 72 and have only the Tournament, The one that didn't get away, and a still need a few more coins from Dalaran fountain to get the Title.<br /> I was shocked at the difference between the pre-achievement Tourneys and the current ones. So many more people, it was crazy. Very few unshared nodes. My first attempt left me with only 27 fish by the time a winner was announced. I tried again last week and got to 36, using the area between bloodsail compound and Grom'gol. Fishing skill at 450, this will be tough road. Going to try to fish the extreme Northeast coast next week, wondering if anyone has had any luck there. Its a PvE server so I dont have to worry bout ganking, plus at my level, aggro is not too much of an issue.<br /> I have a plan of attack for minimizing non-fishing time, which I will galdly share with the forum once I have won. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-4147 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:02:38 +0000 Kiki 4147@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>You need an escort...2 or more friends...that would make a huge difference.</p> <p>I won it like that...on Yojamba Isle </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3924 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:46:15 +0000 Balazar 3924@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I'd be confident that the stuff in the list is legal, except for the jumping up and down on the bobbers part. Two things come to mind for that:</p> <p>1) I would expect that to actually fall under harassment; </p> <p>2) Even if it's not currently, were it to become common, I'm sure it would upset folks enough to become a customer service problem, and become harassment. </p> <p>Except perhaps on a PvP realm, in which case you just kill the opposing faction folk anyway. </p> <p>My personal view is; if you are using scouts, that's just good planning. If you are fishing out other pools (or fake fishing); that's a little more borderline. It's becoming more about degrading others fishing skills, rather than enhancing your own. Interfering with others bobbers seems clearly across the line to me. </p> <p>If I'm in a competition (or race, or whatever), I'd like to think I won based off of my skills (and perhaps cleverness and planning), but not off of holding other folks back. Just my view. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3910 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:04:49 +0000 LucyInTheSky 3910@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Oh, and one more thing: Clearly Ruins of Aboraz isn't working for you. Try Grom'Gol heading north for a while. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3909 Tue, 13 Jan 2009 23:02:43 +0000 LucyInTheSky 3909@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>There are a couple of things I haven't noticed have appeared as suggestions on this thread yet:</p> <p>First, never ever fish from half-pools. It's a black hole that you'll throw time into and never get anything out of. Especially not if you've got 38 or 39 fish. Then all you've got is another horrible story to tell on this board.</p> <p>There are also a couple of tricks you can use. They're legal, though as el has pointed out, perhaps not precisely "ethical."</p> <p>1. Get two or three friends to <em>pretend</em> to fish the pool you're currently using. Make sure they understand they <em>mustn't</em> right-click their bobbers or they'll deplete a tastyfish from your pool.</p> <p>2. Get three or four friends to <em>pretend</em> to fish a pool you're NOT currently using, but will be moving on to next. They, too, mustn't actually right-click their bobbers.</p> <p>Both these stunts will cause other fishermen to avoid the pools you're using. After all, everyone is following the same (reasonable) strategy you are, avoiding pools that already have multiple fishermen in them.</p> <p>3. Get one or two friends to scout out other pools for you. They can then be used for #2.</p> <p>4. Get one or two or thirty friends to go to every other pool and jump up and down on people's bobbers. It'll make them d!cks, and they'll get a slew of nasty tells from half the people they do it to. (The other half will be opposite faction Alliance. kek.) But it's not illegal, and not an exploit. If you're going to pull this stunt, I reccommend using Tauren.</p> <p>5. Get one or two or thirty friends to go to the other side of the zone and just fish up the pools that you are never ever going to use. That way they deplete the pools faster, and the competition gets fewer fish per pool. This'll slow everybody on one side of STV down quite a bit.</p> <p>You can even do both #2 or 5, <em>and</em> #4 to someone, both at the same time. That's a terrific way to encourage them to move along and leave a pool. It's also guaranteed to piss them off something awful. Expect to get reported to a GM even if what you're doing is legal.</p> <p>You're on a PvE server, so you cannot mobilize your guild to gank half the competition. But you CAN use them to make ALL the competition miserable.</p> <p>These are all gray area tricks, so use them with caution. If you ever find a blue post that calls them "exploits" I'd stop immediately. But if you're not afraid of being a d!ck and you have guildies to ask for help, well hell: Knock yourself out.</p> <p>Fair notice: I have never used any of these tactics before. I won STVFE the old fashioned way. But then: I'm a <em>good</em> fisherman. YMMV. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3750 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 10:42:34 +0000 Isa 3750@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>On two to go, a winner was declared. However, I still don't feel the blinding rage when I've not won. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3747 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 02:40:15 +0000 Gihelle 3747@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>2 weeks ago I was helping a guildie... he got all 40 fishes and hearthed.</p> <p>He started talking to the NPC to retrieve his prize, and someone else won. :( </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/the-rage-of-not-winning/page/2#post-3735 Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:59:35 +0000 Shiraki 3735@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>*sigh* Even though I've already won it, today was a sad day.</p> <p>I logged in with my bank-alt and checked the auctions and when I switched to my main I saw the fishingbuddy notice "Tournament in 0:04". "Damn" was my thougt while I rushed to the airship, luckily I stood in Orgrimmar. Waiting.. waiting ... "0:01", waiting ... when I finally arrived it already started but oh well, rare fish were my primal goal. So I fished, and a lot of pools were shared and then it happened. I caught my 40th tasty and yet there was no winner. D'oh, being late already at the start I couldn't set my stone into the booty bay so I rode the coast down.. 15 seconds, no winner, 20 seconds, no winner and then at the 27th second whe I were in the tunnel, the announcement came. :(</p> <p>/me votes for a Dalarangate in BB so I could lay my HS always there.</p> <p>Edit: Oh and of course I didn't catch any rares &gt;_&lt; </p>