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		<title>El&#039;s Extreme Anglin&#039; - WoW Fishing Guide &#187; Topic: Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?</title>
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			<title>surpsycho on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/turtle-in-how-many-catches-did-you-get-it/page/13#post-7280</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>surpsycho</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I caught himm last night, at skill lvl 283, just leveling my skill when i caught a sea turtle, didnt think to much of it, didnt even check the ach. Guild started goin crazy, congradulating me, so i looked, and it was a mount, pretty cool...GL all, was on a borean man of war pool right there by the frozen elementals in BT.
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			<title>ProfP on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>ProfP</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;About open water. I have ~86.000 casts in Northrend in open water for last 6 months, no turtle. So, I think, you must catch one in pools only.&#60;br /&#62;
Now I have ~300 casts in pools (Grizly Hill). No turtle. From articles in this topic, I think, that probability ~1/3000.
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			<title>Ninf on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 12:08:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Ninf</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;After around 12-13k of fishes caught i finally got it. I nearly lost all my hope after i fished for 7 hours straight without getting it.
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			<title>Al on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/turtle-in-how-many-catches-did-you-get-it/page/12#post-7165</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 23:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;blockquote&#62;&#60;p&#62; - for example, ever killed a mob, but been unable to loot it because you &#34;were not close enough&#34;, in spite of standing on it? The game server and your game client disagreed about where the corpse is. .
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&#60;p&#62;Yes.  This has happened to me.  I always think it's something wrong &#34;at home&#34; and re-log.  Thanks for this explanation.
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			<title>el on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
			<link>http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/turtle-in-how-many-catches-did-you-get-it/page/12#post-7164</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>el</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Does &#34;in Valiance Keep&#34; mean in the dock area, right in the middle, where the moored ship is? This would be interesting, because, as far as I know, there are no pool-spawning points inside that dock, except &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/pool_of_blood.html&#34; title=&#34;Fish Finder: Pool of Blood.&#34;&#62;Pool of Blood&#60;/a&#62; (which can appear anywhere in Borean Tundra, and are reported to sometimes contain a turtle). &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I generally look for how anglers can become confused about events, by missing some information. That tends to happen in the excitement of catching something like this. A pool spawning right under the bobber at the moment the angler caught the turtle is one such confusion. Another example of confusion might be the bobber landing in a different named area to the place the angler was standing (which used to explain a lot of &#34;weirdness&#34; in &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/azshara.html&#34; title=&#34;Fish Finder: Azshara.&#34;&#62;Azshara&#60;/a&#62;).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;The basic arguments against Blizzard intending Sea Turtles to be caught from open water &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-turtle-problem&#34;&#62;are here&#60;/a&#62;. 80% of all casts in Northrend  &#60;a href=&#34;http://timhowgego.com/where-we-fish.html&#34;&#62;are in open water&#60;/a&#62;, so if this was anything other than a freak event, these forums would be flooded with people that caught the Sea Turtle from open water accidentally.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;One explanation is a &#34;sync bug&#34;. The game server momentarily got confused about where your bobber was, and so sent you a fish from another location, not the place you were. WoW does this more than it should - for example, ever killed a mob, but been unable to loot it because you &#34;were not close enough&#34;, in spite of standing on it? The game server and your game client disagreed about where the corpse is. Unfortunately there's no reason why Northrend should be the only place this happens. Nobody ever reported catching &#60;a href=&#34;http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/mr_pinchy.html&#34; title=&#34;Fish Finder: Mr. Pinchy.&#34; class=&#34;nocolor&#34; rel=&#34;item=27388&#34;&#62;Mr. Pinchy&#60;/a&#62; while idling in Stormwind.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Another possibility is a freak chance of breaking the &#34;loot table&#34;. For example, the server might try to roll somewhere between 0 and 1, but due to a quirk of the way computers aren't perfectly accurate, calculates the result as 1.0000...00001, producing an unintended loot. But again, there's no reason why such a bug would only influence the Sea Turtle.
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			<title>Gladkathie on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Gladkathie</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I was leveling in the open sea, in Valiance Keep. It was between 1000-3000 catches, while I got my turtle. So it can be found in open water, too. You can imagine how happy I was, cause I red it everywhere, I cannot get it, unless I fish from a pool, I was completely shocked, when I saw, that In my catch there were 2 pages... And on the second, there was a blue item... &#34;What the heck-I thought&#34; and I saw it is my brand new, little, dear, precious(yeah, preciousssSSSsSSS) cute turtle!!!!! Maybe it was a bug, or you can really get it on every water, but anyway, something is sure.&#60;br /&#62;
I was lucky like hell! :D
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			<title>icechief on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 08:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>icechief</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Hi I was just fishing last week for food type fish and I caught the Turtle Mount.&#60;br /&#62;
I have did not try an catch the turtle just lucky,
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			<title>Utopia on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Utopia</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Finally got mine last night after only about 60 casts, but I have been fishing like a woman possessed for it since it was implemented, and Pow! it drops when I'm least expecting it :D
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			<title>Solanis on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Solanis</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I hang my head and have to say I'm one of the lucky ones. I was fishing a monsterbelly pool and got both &#60;strong&#62;Northrend Angler&#60;/strong&#62; and &#60;strong&#62;Turtles All The Way Down&#60;/strong&#62; simultaneously.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Just an update to swim speed: druids' aquatic form is +50% and (at least in plain vanilla WoW when I tested it against a  friend), the STV fishing quest reward was the same speed as that. This makes the turtle 10% faster, not 5% as C Rage notes in the write-up.
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			<title>Shircon on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Shircon</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;i respectfully withdraw myself from this catagory as i caught him in BT during the Blood is Thicker Dailey,and i met another person in game who caught it on the same daily that day....possible seaturtle glitch? i saw 2 pools after i completed quest and BAMMO...
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			<title>Xi on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Xi</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I finally got it! I posted a few months ago to vent my frustration about not getting this, and I said I'd stop trying. In the end, I did. It took around 4,500 casts back then, and I haven't fished for months, tonight was the first time. I went fishing in Howling Fjord by Scalawag Point (on the river where you need to get two of those walrus-looking things to mate), simply trying to fish for imperial manta rays for my cooking/buffs. The moment I stopped hoping for that turtle, I got it. It took about 20 casts, but I got it. And it was totally worth it!
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			<title>Renetta on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 01:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Renetta</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I feel with you. I basically spend two full vacations to get the one that didn't get away (7.5k on that one) and about 12k on my attempt to get the turtle (to no avail).&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;At some point watching TV and clicking when the bobber make a sound, is the only way to cope.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;I pretty much stopped when I realized that these ultrarare drops had killed all that time, in case of the turtle for nothing.
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			<title>seaborn on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 13:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>seaborn</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I have slowed down a lot. After the first couple months of not getting it I gave up the solid farming.&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Last night I reached a milestone.  50,000 fish (50k). Still no turtle.  And yes, i fish in pools. No  I don't use a bot. I sit in my recliner with a wireless mouse while watching TV.  I have officially decided to stop farming this.
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			<title>jeraz on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>jeraz</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;i got it in the river hearth, in about 900 catches...
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			<title>Enygma on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Sep 2009 02:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Enygma</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;I've stopped counting pools or individual casts ages ago. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Got the Herring around 8800 fish and other things caught. I'm at 20885 now; been fishing in pools only, except for the Crocolisk quest. &#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Still no turtle. :(
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			<title>Shircon on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 12:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Shircon</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Ive been fishing the frozen sea and im about 1200 catches in,with about 300 throughout the rest of NorthRend as i see them randomly....still nothing,and im running out of water walking potions....went through 25 last night.
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			<title>Balgair on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Balgair</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Guessing I've been lucky, no idea how many catches exactly but I've been fishing Fangtooth Herring pools occasionally for both the turtle and dark herring, and the turtle popped tday :-) Doubt I've fishing more than 300-400 casts as I don't recall selling all that much fried herring, just a dozen or so stacks over time. Was very surprised to see that achievement pop up! Now wondering where to go for the one that got away...
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			<title>Leny on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 21:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator>Leny</dc:creator>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;It took me ~5750 catches to get mine.... 2 people in my guild got it on one cast 0_o
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			<title>Bartiler on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 20:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;Been gone for several months due to finances but back on my first day of actual fishing...&#60;br /&#62;
Caught mine in 25 casts...lucky since im still after my stinking salty title...Darn you &#34;one that  didnt get away&#34; Achievement!&#60;/p&#62;
&#60;p&#62;Edit: after a rough night at work fishing was my relaxer.  After cooking  180+ Herrings I emptied my bags and headed to a pool in Howling fjord... 3rd cast into the pool and BAM! my dark herring showed up.
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			<title>Pj on "Turtle, in how many catches did you (not) get it?"</title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description>&#60;p&#62;im at about 4,000 casts&#60;br /&#62;
all in fangtooth pools&#60;br /&#62;
no herring either&#60;br /&#62;
=[
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