http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:12:19 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs/page/2#post-6054 Tue, 05 May 2009 16:23:56 +0000 Keirelle 6054@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Does anyone else find this thread just plain hilarious? The OP states how much Horde sucks for ganking him... but, if you are Horde on a pvp sever, the exact same thing happens. Really now, ask me how I know ;) Such is PVP!! That's why I switched to PVE.. that way I can choose when i want to PVP, but I can lvl in peace or do marathon fishing sessions without worrying about being ganked and camped. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs/page/2#post-6047 Tue, 05 May 2009 13:07:45 +0000 Azaguth 6047@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>And your higher level friends/alts would then be on my to-do list...but I'd never make the connection that it was because I killed a twink during STV a few times. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs/page/2#post-6026 Mon, 04 May 2009 15:32:44 +0000 Abra 6026@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>"Twinking" is simply a strategy, no less valid than any other. On a PvP server it's almost a survival necessity, particularly when there's a high Horde/Alliance imbalance. I got into STV because I enjoy fishing, and the hat/boots would be a nice bonus item. I spend an hour or two a night fishing - usually in Dal - because I find it relaxing and I like the lore attached to each coin I fish up. Assuming I'm a pure WSG twink/not a "real" fisherman/have no "right" to certain gear because I'm a low level &#38; geared isn't going to stop me from fishing STV.</p> <p>On the other hand, I accept a certain amount of ganking in the contest. As strategies go I think it's lame, and I was *highly* amused recently listening to [TRADE] when someone who had recruited their guild to kill/grief other players found themselves being camped/killed in BB until someone else turned in the fish and won. </p> <p>Also, after the contest is finished, repeatedly ganking/camping my corpse is good way to find yourself on my higher level friends/alts to-do list. Just sayin' </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs/page/2#post-4267 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 03:57:01 +0000 scrowjob 4267@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I can relate to the horde ur talking about, if ur on a pvp server then expect to be ganked. Personally I hate twinks, I used to take my lvl 18's to WSG and get them a piece of gear before twinks completely consumed battlegrounds, so every twink I see i give em a quick flame shock and see them running around before they die, I'd rather get the fishing gear myself than have another twink geared for WSG </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs/page/2#post-4239 Mon, 02 Feb 2009 00:46:38 +0000 Talathan 4239@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Micha <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4233" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p> As a side note, there is no such thing as a twink reward. Blizzard has stated neutrality on the idea of twinking, meaning that they don't condemn it, but they will also do nothing to foster or encourage it. Nothing in the fishing contest was made for you. Those items were made for fishing. Since you can't defend what you have arbitrarily claimed as your own, I guess they're not yours, are they? </p></blockquote> <p>I don't have a twink (not even a blinged out banker :D) but here's how I would reply to your last statement:</p> <p>I caught it, it's mine. Why I want it is none of your business. The only thing arbitrary about the whole thing is who the game decided to award it to. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4233 Sun, 01 Feb 2009 16:33:42 +0000 Micha 4233@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>A lot of people aren't too fond of twinks. I'm not really going to go into why, as this thread isn't about that.</p> <p>The bottom line is that if I see a flagged twink, I'll kill them on sight. And this is coming from somebody who actually makes it a point to avoid killing flagged actual lowbies. I honestly wouldn't even give it a second thought, and there are many others like me.</p> <p>If you have a problem with people killing your twinks, you really only have three choices.</p> <p>1. Reroll on a PvE server.<br /> 2. Don't leave Stormwind.<br /> 3. Level up and defend yourself.</p> <p>As a side note, there is no such thing as a twink reward. Blizzard has stated neutrality on the idea of twinking, meaning that they don't condemn it, but they will also do nothing to foster or encourage it. Nothing in the fishing contest was made for you. Those items were made for fishing. Since you can't defend what you have arbitrarily claimed as your own, I guess they're not yours, are they?</p> <p>If you want to know why people want them, look at it this way:<br /> If you have the +fishing items from the contest, you can fish anywhere with a +75 lure only and avoid getaways. If you don't have _all_ of them, you need a +100 lure. +75 lures can be easily obtained from vendors. +100 are either sold in very limited quantities by the same vendors, gained in small quantities from a daily, or crafted using lowbie mats. +100 lures aren't hard to get, but it requires a lot more effort than simply going to a vendor. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4209 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:33:32 +0000 Utopia 4209@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Talathan <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4202" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Since there's no effort necessary to make them, those who create them <strong>must be doing it just for the fun of it.</strong> </p></blockquote> <p>Surely that's the whole point? :P</p> <p>Not that I have twinks,but I do have a blinged-out banker :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4202 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 11:16:33 +0000 Talathan 4202@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Yeah, I suppose for a lvl 19 these would be considered twink rewards. They ought to raise the fishing level required for STV to 205... and then make Fishing the same as every other profession I can think of - in that, in order to progress past 150 you need to be lvl 20. The number of "got away"'s these so-called twinks (*) would receive even with maxxed out gear and lures would be discouraging to say the least.</p> <p>(*) I call lvl 19 twinks "Twinker Toys." Since there's no effort necessary to make them, those who create them must be doing it just for the fun of it. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4196 Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:43:31 +0000 Norrinir 4196@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/stranglethorn_rewards.html">http://www.elsanglin.com/stranglethorn_rewards.html</a></p> <p>Scroll down to Rare fish part, you have both twink rewards + line fish there. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4182 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:59:39 +0000 Triseult 4182@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The Lucky Fishing Hat, at +15 Stam, is an excellent choice for a level 19 twink. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4180 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 23:28:15 +0000 Talathan 4180@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Ok, allow me to rephrase my question: I was not aware that certain fish that can only be caught during the extravaganza that have twink rewards. Which fish are those? </p> <p>I saw nothing on the linked page that is even remotely "twink like," or did I miss something. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4161 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:54:03 +0000 Pipre 4161@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Talathan <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4160" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>I wasn't aware that certain rare fish can only be caught during the extravaganza. Which fish are those?</p></blockquote> <p><a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/stranglethorn_fishing_extravaganza.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.elsanglin.com/stranglethorn_fishing_extravaganza.html</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4160 Wed, 28 Jan 2009 03:15:00 +0000 Talathan 4160@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I wasn't aware that certain rare fish can only be caught during the extravaganza. Which fish are those? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4156 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:58:13 +0000 Azaguth 4156@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>They AREN'T fishing to win the extravaganza...they're fishing for gear. But they hinder every person they come across who IS fishing to win the extravaganza. Hence the ire. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4125 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:05:03 +0000 Norrinir 4125@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Rare fish that can be caught during Extravaganza do not have level req and provide huge stamina boost. So basically, twinks are fishing for gear. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4122 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:02:29 +0000 Talathan 4122@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I think I'm missing something here. It was my understanding that a "twink" (in the WoW sense) was a low level toon that was equipped with high powered gear (such as a lvl 19 toon whose gear included pants that had been enhanced with Nethercobra Armor) in order to have an advantage in BG's and Arena battles. If this is what is being referred to, what does any of that have to do with fishing - much less whether or not that toon wins the extravaganza? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4121 Tue, 27 Jan 2009 08:08:46 +0000 Pipre 4121@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Most high level characters, myself included, consider twinks to be a nuisance during the tournament. They tend to fish any pool they come across whether someone is already there or not, and they tend to move in packs. The reward they are looking for was not designed for twinks but rather for fishermen, so there is a tendency to view what they are doing as sort of exploiting in a way.<br /> On my server avoiding the twinks practically guarantees a win. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4115 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 19:45:48 +0000 Azaguth 4115@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>Marlburo <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4082" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>kind of an old thread but a little advice for all you twinks. your gonna have a REALLY tough time winning the tournament. come at 2:20....if i see someone fishing that is an easy kill during the tournament, consider yourself dead. Once a winner is declared, everyone pretty much cools off and you still have over an hour and a half to catch a rare!</p></blockquote> <p>Except both times I won, they didn't "cool off", about 10 horde came in both times and killed me after I won, most likely because I won. Then they turned and fought off the booty bay bruisers...</p> <p>But yeah, for the most part the killings decline after a winner is declared. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4112 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:33:44 +0000 Triseult 4112@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I just want to add: I'm not on a PvP server, but MAN did I hate seeing twinks before the contest was won. They were admittedly only after the hat, and they still fought me for my pools. I wish I could have ganked them, and would gladly have done so.</p> <p>If I ever roll a twink, I'll wait for the winner to be announced THEN go fishing. I've heard a few twinks comment that the rare quest fish are once per Tournament, though... Which I'm pretty sure is patently false. But they think they have to aggressively fish during the tournament as a result. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/why-are-people-just-pigs#post-4110 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 13:39:36 +0000 Talathan 4110@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I'm certain you believe yours to be a "real" server. However, there are people who have absolutely no interest in PvP whatsoever. IMO, if WoW was a <strong>real</strong> MMORPG (and not just an "FPS wannabe") there wouldn't be any PvP at all. </p>