http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:11:52 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6627 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 05:17:12 +0000 darkelf56 6627@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>TheTacoMan,<br /> LOL....I wondered how long it would be before the name calling started. Thank you. I dont have to wonder anymore. First off, I am not an idiot. I am entitled to my opinion like anyone else. You obviously dont agree...Oh wait! Is that a "salty" title i see by your name. Why my my ...it sure is. (chuckle)</p> <p>Flying to Dalaran and skipping content is not anything that we are talking about. Secondly, I didnt say I couldnt do Lurker Below and ZG, the point I was making was I shouldnt have to. </p> <p>So how would like your "mercury lined hat" ...with a scoop of ice cream or maybe some motor oil to make it go down easier. Right now Alliakazham is reporting dragonfin angelfish at 58 gold per stack. On Hydraxis there are in the AH for 57g per stack. Blackened dragonfin is currently listed at 7g each or 140g per stack Its counterpart dragonfin filet is 3g shy of that...coming in at 137 gold per stack. The sad thing is no one or very very few people are going to pay that price. And yes the price will tumble and has over the last 2 weeks. People like yourself will cut the living crap out of it by underbidding it and the price will drop like a rock. This is what I was referring to. If the price gets too high, not only will people not buy, but instead it becomes economically feasible for them to now spend 10 mins and get there own. So there is a happy price that you try and maintain. But wait you can't do that because now there are tons more people out here who are fishing for achievement and dumping what they catch on the AH at a much reduced price continuing the spiral downward. The only thing in our favor is that people simply dont like to fish...AMEN! They will cook, but they dont like fishing...too boring for them. Goodie Goodie</p> <p>Tsk tsk tsk...achievements are designed to do one thing...give the level 80 raid groups something to do while they cant get a raid or bored out of thier skull. That is all they were ever designed for. So how many week(s) did you spend getting the STV tourney, or the One that didnt get away...you know the rare than rare fishie. I would almost bet that you are one of "those" who on the second cast caught the dark herring while fishing for the turtle. You probably hit the tourney on your third or fourth try. Well Koodoos for you. Congratulations! </p> <p>I am happy for you! But not all of us are that lucky. And when you really look at this journey, it really doesnt make sense to require a group or raid for fishing. It doesnt make sense to require something that is only once a week that lasts for 20 mins where some people cant attend at all and you are denying them the opt to get their hook wet. But they are selling and you are buying it that it is an "achievement" to exploit a loophole in the game mechanics and take advantage of those who could not attend the tourney. Now certainly these are all things you can do...but should you? </p> <p>Please lets dont start with name calling. I value your opinion same as anyone else. At the very worst...lets just say we argree to disagree. :) When you have to resort to names then you have discredited your argument, </p> <p>thanks for listening and thanks for posting</p> <p>Dark Elf </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6626 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:55:15 +0000 TheTacoMan 6626@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Let me get this straight, this guy is not complaining about the STV achievement, which most people who don't have salty complain about, but rather, the lurker below and the ZG one? </p> <p>You CANNOT be serious.</p> <p>Unless you are a gigantic looser, you will have at least 1 friend who plays world of war craft that is willing to make a raid group with you.</p> <p>Saying that the solo guides that skip content to get to the fish is an exploit? Excuse me, but that's a rather dumb thing to say. When you are flying to Dalaran after finishing say, the daily fishing quest at the northern sea, do you stop and kill every single mob that is below you, that would have gotten in your path if you had not been on a flying mount? No? Well according to your logic, you are exploiting to skip content.</p> <p>Also, you are complaining about the price of fish being too high? Are you MAD? First of all, if you can find me ANY server that sells a stack of Dragonfin for 160g, i will eat your obviously mercury lined hat. Secondly, why is this a bad thing? It means that you can undercut them and make lots of money. With more and more people taking up fishing due to the recent changes, the market is only heading in one direction. Down.</p> <p>Lastly, these fishing achievements are just that, ACHIEVEMENTS! You have to actually Achieve something to get them. If you are really, REALLY agaisnt skipping content in instances, maybe you should talk to your guild and ask them if anyone is up for a classic/burning crusade dungeon master run? You can clear SSC and ZG with about 10 lvl 80's, and aswell as getting your achievement, you'll have a great deal of fun, and get to experience some content that you obviously never had before</p> <p>Dark Elf with all due respect, you are an idiot. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6624 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:47:07 +0000 darkelf56 6624@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Shimarenda,<br /> I truly thank you for your concern. And its not misplaced...i AM frustrated beyond belief and all doesnt have to do with this title...but rather the fishing achievements as a whole. The title is but a bone to pacify me provided I dont have to jump thru too many hoops to get it. I have read several tuts that talk about how to solo the instances and I most certainly appreciate the fine work these people did and took upon themselves to share that info with us. But there proves my point. There method in my humble opinion is exploiting a loop hole in the raid system. </p> <p>Mr. Pinchy is not an easy "crawdad" to come by...takes time and patience and a flying mount ...and a little luck to snare that grumpy crustecean and thats as should be. But it is SOLO...I do not have to pester someone to join a raid group with me or nag my guildies into it. It is well within the realm of game play for TBC. </p> <p>When WoLK came out ...i financed a great deal of my first two level 80s with nothing but fishing! After that...two things happened to destroy the fish market, the achievements gave too many people the opportunity to find out how easy it was to snag 5 stacks of dragonfin in an hour and sell it for 40g on the AH. It wasnt long till they did the math and 200g an hour aint chump change. Given that exposure...came the greed mongers. Why only 40? Why not 80? Or 160g per stack of dragonfin? The achievements gave us "exposure" and i dont see too much of anything else...all things consider. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6623 Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:26:17 +0000 Gandonar 6623@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I agree a little bit with Dark Elf.</p> <p>Personally I only need to win the STV turnament. But I am also a raider, so to get into a raid group, and do Lurker Below, was not a problem for me.</p> <p>But why should an achievement for fishing be dependent on what level you are?</p> <p>If your not level 70 you cant enter.</p> <p>I agree that the fishing achievements should all be possible to do alone. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6622 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 23:34:35 +0000 Shimarenda 6622@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Dark Elf,</p> <p>You don't need to get an entire raid group. You only need to have one person form a party with you, then you can convert your party to a raid. That person doesn't have to come to the instance with you. There are guides here to get to the place in the instances you need to be.</p> <p>Sorry you're frustrated,<br /> Shimarenda </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-6621 Thu, 09 Jul 2009 22:05:35 +0000 darkelf56 6621@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I am gonna throw my two cents into the hat as well. </p> <p>Personally, up till about 20 minutes ago...I was gung ho to get the salty achievement. Now, I could care less. They have taken something I enjoyed and turned it to something I despise. And here is why:</p> <p>First off, fishing has never ever been a "group" sport. To stuff an acheivement behind an instance negates the whole concept of fishing in the first place. You would have to create a specific raid group with eveyone understanding what "your" goals are...dont know about anyone else but the raid groups I have been in are not about to sit around and wait till you catch a fish...lol</p> <p>Secondly, luck has always played an important part of fishing...even in real life. So, while i dont catagorically dismiss the STV tourney as part of the acheivement, I do think it could be overhauled to at least let people get thier hook wet. </p> <p>Last be not least and this is where the rub starts, all those who already have the Salty title...what i have just stated is not gonna go over real well and i understand why...completely. Any change and it would cheapen or lessen your achievement. But even you would have to agree that LUCK played a huge part in your ever completing this acheivement...and I am not talking about "fishing" luck ...I am talking "lottery" luck. That "1 in 13 wilth all the zeroes behind it type" luck. But look at this way. If I have to go in and exploit a loophole in the game mechanics in order to win...doesnt that just scream volumes!</p> <p>Ok I am off my soap box. To each who STILL wants to pursue this, good luck to ya cause you are going to need it. Now I will stand over with the group that says enough is enough</p> <p>Thanks for listening</p> <p>Dark Elf </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-2897 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:13:42 +0000 Traeh 2897@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Ah! Nice to know the titanium seal comes in the mail. I didn't get it when I got the achievement, so I was about to ring the gamemaster :)</p> <p>I know I casted a minimum of 800 times to get all three coins. I got 600 fountain goldfish and of course tons of coins. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1450 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:57:52 +0000 Baiya 1450@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I managed to get "The Coin Master" Achievement this night. The reward is a blue quality Coin sent by Jepetto Joybuzz, a "Titanium Seal of Dalaran". You can flip this coin and it shows either "Head up" or "Face down". (Achievement: <a href="http://666kb.com/i/b2cd75buffh0uhpb7.png" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/b2cd75buffh0uhpb7.png</a> , Mail from Jepetto Joybuzz: <a href="http://666kb.com/i/b2cd5ivzya4yfaa1v.png" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/b2cd5ivzya4yfaa1v.png</a> , Flipping the Coin: <a href="http://666kb.com/i/b2cctoiaccjv88pr7.png" rel="nofollow">http://666kb.com/i/b2cctoiaccjv88pr7.png</a> ).</p> <p>I'm sorry that i can't provide details how much and how long I fished and how the drop percentages were. All in all i think i fished about 6-8 hours in the Dalaran Fountain. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1448 Mon, 22 Sep 2008 20:37:51 +0000 el 1448@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The Old Gnome and Sea just triggered for me from open water. I caught an <a href="/fish/?s=Oily Blackmouth" title="Fish Finder - Oily Blackmouth.">Oily Blackmouth</a>. I have a hunch that this isn't coded as a catch from a pool, rather a catch of any fish that can be caught from a pool. Any confirmation would be useful, particularly for other fish that can be caught from open water and pools. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1409 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:57:08 +0000 C Rage 1409@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1401" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043234288&#38;sid=2000">Tigole</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>"Dalaran coin and fishing achievements will be in an upcoming build (maybe the next build - we're so many builds ahead of beta at this point I lose track)." </p></blockquote> <p><strong>Update:</strong> The latest beta client has these in the data files:</p> <ul> <li>A Penny For Your Thoughts - Fish up the copper coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>Silver in the City - Fish up the silver coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>There's Gold In That There Fountain - Fish up the gold coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>I Smell A Giant Rat - Fish up the Giant Sewer Rat from The Underbelly in Dalaran.</li> </ul> <p>Looks like there is a new title too, for catching all the coins: "Titanium Seal of Dalaran". Obviously that needs to be confirmed in-game. It seems relatively easy to gain, merely requiring the willpower to stare at a fountain for several hours. [Edit:] Seems more likely the Titanium Seal of Dalaran is an item, not a title.</p></blockquote> <p>I can confirm, at least on the PTR that all of these achivements are in place. Naturally since the PTR does not have access to the city, but I can confirm I see it on the achievement window. :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1408 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 18:10:02 +0000 Pipre 1408@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Items that are tradeable absolutely won't count towards acidvements. This is why you guys didn't recieve credit for it, since all you'd need to do is head to the AH and pick one up otherwise.</p> <p>I'm really excited about all the fishing achievents in Wrath, finally my favorite WoW hobby is getting some love! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1407 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:43:27 +0000 Oberweiss 1407@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1406" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>As far as I am aware, The One That Didn't Get Away is <strong>not retrospective</strong>. Since none of this is live yet, I would not try and catch any of these items - you will have to catch them once achievements are in the live game.<br /> The achievements are for the specific fish listed. So in your example, only the <a href="/fish/?s=68 Pound Grouper" title="Fish Finder - 68 Pound Grouper.">68 Pound Grouper</a>.</blockquote> I have also found that The One That Didn't Get Away is not retroactively applied to your achievements. For example, I caught the <a href="/fish/?s=Rockhide Strongfish" title="Fish Finder - Rockhide Strongfish.">Rockhide Strongfish</a> and immediately equipped it, which makes it soulbound, and I did not get credit for the achievement on beta. I know I have caught other non-binding "pound fish," specifically the <a href="/fish/?s=103 Pound Mightfish" title="Fish Finder - 103 Pound Mightfish.">103 Pound Mightfish</a>, and those also did not count toward the achievement.</p> <p>Unfortunately, we must catch at least one of these rare fish again (after the achievements are implemented) if we are to earn credit for this achievement. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1406 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:34:12 +0000 el 1406@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>As far as I am aware, The One That Didn't Get Away is <strong>not retrospective</strong>. Since none of this is live yet, I would not try and catch any of these items - you will have to catch them once achievements are in the live game.</p> <p>The achievements are for the specific fish listed. So in your example, only the <a href="/fish/?s=68 Pound Grouper" title="Fish Finder - 68 Pound Grouper.">68 Pound Grouper</a>. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1405 Thu, 18 Sep 2008 15:10:18 +0000 Silkath 1405@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Keen (wow) angler that I am I've obviously been preparing for the expansion by trying to get all the fishing achievements done that I can. So I've been looking at doing The One That Didn't Get Away. Sadly I've caught a couple of Rockhide Strongfish in the past but given them away to guidies to use in various screenies, so I'm still working on it. But I was wondering, does it have to be a <a href="/fish/?s=68 Pound Grouper" title="Fish Finder - 68 Pound Grouper.">68 Pound Grouper</a> or will the 47 Pound Grouper I caught in STV the other day still get me the achievement?</p> <p>Silky </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1401 Wed, 17 Sep 2008 19:30:25 +0000 el 1401@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=10043234288&#38;sid=2000">Tigole</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>"Dalaran coin and fishing achievements will be in an upcoming build (maybe the next build - we're so many builds ahead of beta at this point I lose track)."</p> </blockquote> <p><strong>Update:</strong> The latest beta client has these in the data files:</p> <ul> <li>A Penny For Your Thoughts - Fish up the copper coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>Silver in the City - Fish up the silver coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>There's Gold In That There Fountain - Fish up the gold coins listed below from the Dalaran fountain.</li> <li>I Smell A Giant Rat - Fish up the Giant Sewer Rat from The Underbelly in Dalaran.</li> </ul> <p>Looks like there is a new title too, for catching all the coins: "Titanium Seal of Dalaran". Obviously that needs to be confirmed in-game. It seems relatively easy to gain, merely requiring the willpower to stare at a fountain for several hours. [Edit:] Seems more likely the Titanium Seal of Dalaran is an item, not a title. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1382 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 13:13:18 +0000 Oberweiss 1382@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><cite>el <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1377" title="View original post.">wrote</a>:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>Oberweiss: I made a few changes yesterday, but I may have missed something. I certainly have "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" on beta-El's in-game achievement list. Perhaps there is a difference between EU and US servers?</p> </blockquote> <p>Ah, sorry about that. Disregard my post. I probably didn't see it at first, because I was too distracted with what they did to my face (<a href="http://www.kabby.net/wow/oberSmall9.gif">before</a>, <a href="http://www.kabby.net/wow/uglyface.jpg">after</a>).<br /> . </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1380 Sat, 13 Sep 2008 00:23:54 +0000 Verissi 1380@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Master Angler of Stranglethorn is still on my achievement list as well. The interface still scrolls in huge chunks, though, so I thought the same at first when checking.</p> <p>Great updates on Dalaran fishing, El :-) I plan on spending quite a bit more time in the city fishing now that things are getting interesting there (and those silly Cuttlefish have stopped eluding me). </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1377 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 20:34:17 +0000 el 1377@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Schrodinger: Many of the fishing achievements were never implemented beyond the name, and almost all of them were eventually removed from the game. I suspect we will see more added after WotLK's release.</p> <p>Oberweiss: I made a few changes yesterday, but I may have missed something. I certainly have "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" on beta-El's in-game achievement list. Perhaps there is a difference between EU and US servers?</p> <p>I'm still writing up all the <a href="/fish/?s=Dalaran" title="Fish Finder - Dalaran.">Dalaran</a> changes (although the Fish Finder pages should be pretty accurate now). I discovered 2 new achievements, neither of which have names, nor are listed on the achievements interface - a chat message simple states "[you] has earned the achievement !":</p> <ol> <li>Catching <a href="/fish/?s=Giant Sewer Rat" title="Fish Finder - Giant Sewer Rat.">Giant Sewer Rat</a>.</li> <li>Catching coins in the fountain. I think the achievement is for catching all the <a href="/fish/?s=Gold Coin" title="Fish Finder - Gold Coin.">Gold Coin</a>s, but it could be for catching all the coins (including <a href="/fish/?s=Copper Coin" title="Fish Finder - Copper Coin.">Copper Coin</a> and <a href="/fish/?s=Silver Coin" title="Fish Finder - Silver Coin.">Silver Coin</a>), or even just for catching <a href="/fish/?s=Lady Katrana Prestor's Gold Coin" title="Fish Finder - Lady Katrana Prestor's Gold Coin.">Lady Katrana Prestor's Gold Coin</a>. All of those conditions would have been met at the time I got the achievement!</li> </ol> <p>So, if anyone is planning to spend a lot of time fishing from the fountain, it might be worth tracking precisely what you are catching.</p> <p>(And I'd also like to know if there is anything really rare down there. So far I have over 800 catches there, without anything unexpected. Of course there is no reason why there should be anything rare lurking, but that doesn't stop me looking ;-) .) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/3#post-1375 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:23:25 +0000 Oberweiss 1375@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I think some of the <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/achievements.html">fishing achievements</a> may have been removed/altered with this patch. I didn't have time to do a full analysis, but I could not find "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" on the list anymore. Did anyone else notice this? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/wotlk-fishing-and-achievements/page/2#post-1374 Fri, 12 Sep 2008 14:03:53 +0000 Schrodinger 1374@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Wasnt there a "Fishin up some booze" achievement a while ago? </p>