http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ Discussion about fishing in World of Warcraft. en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:23:25 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.3 q http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/search.php http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-pony-probability-hypothesis#post-10690 Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:22:25 +0000 Aestu 10690@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>The Sea Pony, based on anecdotal evidence, seems to have much greater variation in its drop rate than most drops seen up to this time. Furthermore, there are an unusual number of anecdotes from players on this and many other sites citing extremely protracted drop rates on mains and surprisingly quick drops on alts - often serially. </p> <p>Based on these anecdotes, my hypothesis is: <strong>the drop rate for the Sea Pony is scaled negatively against certain character statistics</strong>. Possible candidates that are relevant, objective, and consistent with this general pattern include:</p> <p>- /played time<br /> - Fishing skill<br /> - Total fish caught<br /> - Player level</p> <p>Heading off the inevitable "random loot is random," I would point out it is not always that simple, and the WoW Dev Team has demonstrated an increased preference for curving over the years. Quest items, for example, used to have drop rates based on simple probability; today, the chance that most quest items will drop off applicable mobs scales directly with the number of applicable mobs previously looted. Although it is provably untrue that past results influence future performance, it is human nature to so believe, and it may well be good game design to corroborate this human attitude. </p> <p>Rather than be content with what is a simple assumption, I think it most intelligent to collect data to corroborate or debunk my hypothesis.</p> <p>To my knowledge, no automated tool exists to simultaneously collect and collate said data regarding character statistics and drop rates. Therefore, I can think of no better approach than for interested parties to simply post their data in this thread. From this, perhaps we can notice patterns (or the absence thereof). </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/turtle-in-how-many-catches-did-you-get-it#post-5265 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:04:42 +0000 fredje222 5265@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Thought i just made this topic because the other topic isnt really about cathing it :p<br /> so post all stuff you fished here while looking for turtle and where you fished it :)</p> <p>Almost fished non-stop since patch released, 2500 catches done and still no bloody mount, this will be a tough one... Fished in the Frozen Sea just south of Boreans...</p> <p>Btw all my catches are fish caught (that includes pygmy suckerfish/crystallized water/reinforced crate) no junk catches (well a couple, because of missed pools)...</p> <p>Edit: 3000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 3500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 4000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 4500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 5000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 5500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 6000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 6500, still no mount -&gt; changed the title :p<br /> Edit: 7000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 7500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 8000, still no mount<br /> Edit: 8500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 9000, still no mount -&gt; changed my place from Frozen Sea too Grizzly Hills... lots more money to be made here<br /> Edit: 9500, still no mount<br /> Edit: 10,000, still no mount -&gt; whopteefreakingdoo </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/suggested-addition-for-fishing-fashions#post-3550 Tue, 23 Dec 2008 05:22:57 +0000 Gummo 3550@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>In addition to the blue overalls, there are the engineer-only <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9508">mechbuilder's overalls</a>, which appear to use the same model but in green instead of blue. Because fishing needs even more ultra-rare drops for people to chase after...</p> <p>Also, <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/?item=3342">Captain Sanders' shirt</a> is something of an unofficial fishing shirt. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sea-pony-how-many-casts#post-10643 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 00:28:45 +0000 NiceBloke 10643@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>So, I settled myself down to cast the new Sea Pony in the Darkmoon Faire.</p> <p>18 casts later, it drops.</p> <p>Early night for me now then. Pet number 185.</p> <p>Raax (Steamwheedle Cartel - EU) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/steelscale-crushfish-bugged-on-darkmoon-island#post-10649 Sun, 04 Dec 2011 15:16:32 +0000 Aggropop 10649@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I started fishing for my sea pony today (dec 4. 2011 kazzak - EU realm) and to my surprise, after only 6 casts, a Steelscale Crushfish drops! After bragging about my luck in guild chat, a guildie said that he got one while fishing for the pony as well. 7 minutes later i got ANOTHER crushfish. I'm not sure if this is just a case of insane luck, or if the drop chance for the crushfish on Darkmoon Island is much higher than shown on this website.</p> <p>Has anyone had a similar experience or is it really just a coincidence? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/gathermate-2#post-11491 Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:38:22 +0000 samboda 11491@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I opened the following ticket to Gathermate2 <a href="http://www.wowace.com/addons/gathermate2/tickets/57-deprecated-nodes/">ticket url</a> to remove some fishing nodes that no longer exist in-game.</p> <p>Can anyone comment it (not only about the fishing nodes), please. If you find that the information is not accurate please reply.</p> <p>Thanks everyone. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/achievement-creation-the-extreme-title#post-11488 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:04:14 +0000 Bigchief 11488@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>This is my post on WOW site about an idea for a new title and gear to make all of us anglers happy with the coming expansion. </p> <p>"I love fishing. I have gotten "Salty" on a number of my characters and on a couple of them I have fished up everything that can be possibly given an achievement. I guess I just wanted to be like ol Nat Pagle Mr. "The Extreme" himself. I propose putting in an achievement for the truly "extreme" fisherman an achievement that includes all the fishing tourney rewards etc., catching of all the rare fish and many other very creative and dangerous adventures for the hardcore fisherman in Azeroth and Outlands that Bliz can dream up. I know amongst the fishing community it would be the greatest challenge for all fellow anglers alike. Maybe the reward could be a pony keg of beer with a fishing buff that speeds up fishing :) or maybe a high tech reel or combination of parts that would make the Arcanite Fishing rod into a legendary fishing rod only a few could possess with very hard work."</p> <p><a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/4015353124#1">Forum Post Link</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/transmogrification-and-the-fishing-folk#post-10781 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:55:14 +0000 Weller 10781@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I haven't seen anything about this yet, so yeah, </p> <p>I'm sure most are familiar with it, but with patch 4.3, came transmogrification; which allows you to change the appearance of your gear to look like another item of the same slot and material.<br /> <a href="http://www.wowwiki.com/Transmogrification">http://www.wowwiki.com/Transmogrification</a> </p> <p>This means not only can you can showcase your old MC and BWL epics again, but it opens up a whole world of creative outfit and costume ideas. Finally you can show up to your raid in appropriate gear but looking like the master angler you are, or pwn some noobs in pvp with fish daggers.<br /> Here's what I've transmogrificated my lock's armor to look like, taking into account all visible slots.<br /> <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/profile=34041536">Cloth Transmogrification Fishing Example</a><br /> and here's an example of how my rogue looks<br /> <a href="http://www.wowhead.com/profile=34041543">Leather Transmogrification Fishing Example</a></p> <p>I've found its been kind of difficult to find shoulders that don't take away from the outfit,<br /> I think the uncommon offhand fish like ol' ironjaw or the dark herring would be great weapons to use for transmogrifying.<br /> I haven't tried any creations to make a fisher mail or plate wearer, and I imagine they could be a bit more difficult.<br /> But yeah, I'd love input and especially to see what kind of gear other people have been using to make their own creations, hopefully get some new ideas and such for us all. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/as-you-may-have-noticed#post-10518 Tue, 23 Aug 2011 05:52:33 +0000 Marlburo 10518@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I have been posting a lot of stats for some fairly rare fish lately. Just wanted to let everyone know I'll be coming out with a new fish museum video very shortly. I am only missing one fish in the entire game.....the 103 Pound Mightfish, which I am starting to go for now. Since I'm an idiot and forgot to fish up a winter squid for the achievement I may postpone release until I can complete ALL the fishing achievements.....but I'm REALLY excited to finish off the museum. I encourage all anglers to give this a go, its a great test to yourself once you think there's nothing more to do when it comes to fishing!</p> <p>Old video is still out there so I'll put in a quick plug for it :-)</p> <p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0tLiTOf20E" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0tLiTOf20E</a> </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/one-that-didnt-get-away-achievement#post-1624 Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:40:33 +0000 Iannah 1624@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p><strong><em>El says:</em> For new readers, I recommend <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/away.html" title="Guide to the rarest fish you will ever catch...">the summary guide to the One That Didn't Get Away</a>.</strong> Original post:</p> <p>While most fishing achievements will not be possible to do before the 3.0 patch, or even the expansion itself, there are a few that you can do before that time.</p> <p>Fish Don't Leave Footprints - learn the ability to find fish<br /> Master Angler of Stranglethorn - win the Booty Bay fishing contest<br /> Mr. Pinchy's Magical Crawdad Box - fish your way to Mr. Pinchy's Magical Crawdad Box<br /> Old Crafty - fish up Old Crafty in Orgrimmar<br /> Old Ironjaw - fish up Old Ironjaw in Ironforge</p> <p>And finally:<br /> One That Didn't Get Away - fish up one of the rare fish</p> <p>Those first 5 are pretty straightforward. I'm not saying that they're all easy, but it's clear what you have to do. But I'm wondering about the last achievement, get one of the rare fish. Now, if you're like me, you don't want to buy one at the auction house, even if they're available. Which one of the rare fishes would you think is the easiest to get? Should we fish in a starter area for a chance of a big Mudsnapper or Catfish? Should we head to Azshara for a Lobster or Mightfish? Should we try to get the Rockhide Strongfish during the tournament? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fathom-eel#post-10422 Thu, 07 Jul 2011 13:15:58 +0000 Valvaris 10422@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>This was suggested on Wowhead about a month ago but I just wanted to see if others had observed this as well. Is this no longer fishable in open water? </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/kaluak-fishing-derby-results#post-7373 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:33:28 +0000 el 7373@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>If you have caught a <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/blacktip_shark.html" title="Fish Finder: Blacktip Shark." class="nocolor" rel="item=50289">Blacktip Shark</a> during the (live) <a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/kaluak_fishing_derby.html" title="Contests: Kalu'ak Fishing Derby - When and where the Kalu'ak Fishing Derby takes places, what you have to do to compete, and what rewards you can gain.">Kalu'ak Fishing Derby</a>, please post details here. Only post results - start a new topic for discussions. Only post on behalf of someone else if you <em>really</em> know and trust them - I'd prefer anglers to post their own results. It doesn't matter if you won or not, although if you won, congratulations - you can add the win to your profile's Aquarium. Post your:</p> <ul> <li><strong>Win</strong> (yes/no)</li> <li><strong>Effective Fishing Skill</strong> (include bonuses from gear/lures)</li> <li><strong>Faction</strong> (Horde/Alliance)</li> <li><strong>Successful Casts</strong> (count up the non-<a href="http://www.elsanglin.com/fish/pygmy_suckerfish.html" title="Fish Finder: Pygmy Suckerfish." class="nocolor" rel="item=40199">Suckerfish</a> from the start of the contest until the shark catch)</li> <li><strong>Pygmy Suckerfish Caught</strong> (from the start of the contest until the shark catch)</li> <li><strong>Where Shark Caught</strong> (pool/water type and zone)</li> <li><strong>Turn-in Time</strong> (to Elder Clearwater)</li> <li><strong>Anything Unusual</strong> (for example, low level win or <em>interesting</em> strategy)</li> </ul> <p>Thanks! </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/fisherman-fos#post-10708 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 16:55:05 +0000 Values 10708@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I posted about this on the forums. Wanted to see if any other extreme anglers out there felt the same way.</p> <p><a href="http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3764966730" rel="nofollow">http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/topic/3764966730</a></p> <p>Premise is simple. Expand the achievement to a "catch every fish" version. Don't care if it rewards a title or not, just tossing ideas out there. Could be an achieve or a feat, doesn't matter to me.</p> <p>Thought maybe I could garner more support if I drew it directly to the angler's attention. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/darkmoon-luck#post-10703 Thu, 15 Dec 2011 05:30:10 +0000 HootzJnr 10703@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>there is this special vasj'ir style cove of the eastern side of darkmoon near this wreaked ship i read about it and went there there was 50 other people i tryed fishing there and in 10 casts i got 4 of the rare fish for one that didn't get away and 3 sea ponys is this some kind of special drop rate spot </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/squirming-slime-mold#post-10935 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 21:52:59 +0000 Tikicarol 10935@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I could not figure out how to do this by hand, so after swimming around for a few minutes I cast a line and caught all 10 in 23 casts. Not too shabby I think :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/sealed-crate-darkmoon#post-10915 Sun, 01 Jan 2012 18:13:43 +0000 Talii 10915@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>These are incredibly profitable, and can be fished by low level alts all week long. In contested zones, the Shipwreck Debris can pop in the Sanctuary area of Darkmoon Boardwalk. </p> <p>El: "Commentary: Lazy Goblins cannot be bothered to name a different crate differently! Imagine if all the dungeon loot was just called 'armor'."</p> <p>Like the trash is called 'trash' in Ulduar :) </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/farm-tome-of-polymorph-turtle#post-8971 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:26:26 +0000 Gummo 8971@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>From here:<br /> <a href="http://www.wow.com/2010/09/02/the-queue-predicting-the-cataclysm-release-date/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wow.com/2010/09/02/the-queue-predicting-the-cataclysm-release-date/</a></p> <p>(Zul'Gurub will be an open, level 30ish area (not instance) when Cataclysm comes out)</p> <p>"Will the Zul'Gurub mounts still be available by other means?"</p> <p>We don't know yet. However, if you wanted them and haven't gotten around to farming one (or both), I would suggest you start now, just to be safe. If I had to guess, I'd say they're going to be removed -- but that's just a guess. I don't know either way.</p> <p>I'll also take a minute to say how scared I am about what's going to happen to the price of the turtle polymorph tome ... I could see that going well over 100,000g eventually. If you have one and haven't used it, now would be the time to save it and forget about it until it becomes a super rare item of yet-unknown demand. </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/103-pounc-catfish22-pound-lobster#post-6749 Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:45:21 +0000 deerad 6749@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>hello :)<br /> I just wanted to share some stats with you, having nothing else to do while farming my got away...<br /> Addon reports as of now,<br /> Darkclaw lobster 2928 43.4%<br /> Summer Bass 1370 20.3%<br /> Stonescale Eel 856 12.7%<br /> Big-Mouth Clam 657 9.8%<br /> Large Mightfish 589 8.7%<br /> Spotted yellowtail 223 3.3%<br /> Rein. locked chest 70 1%<br /> heavy crate 20 0.3%<br /> 7 pound lobster 11<br /> 9 pound lobster 6<br /> 70 Pound mightfish 5<br /> 15 pound lobster 3<br /> 12 pound lobster 3<br /> 21 pound lobster 1<br /> 85 Pound Mightfish 1</p> <p>All fished in Bay of Storms, started from max skill, with no lures obviusly. + some ~500 catches in the Cove nearby, nothing big there. Saving you the trouble, its 6700 casts and all i have (or kept) to show are the last 2, the big ones. I was really frustrated when i fished 21 pound Lobster, like 1 pound below achiev one..:P<br /> Greetings from Inoe the Noble, an expert angler that started fishing when she caught Old Ironjaw at the second cast (screenshot avail :))</p> <p>Another statistic for the number crunchers, Old Crafty took ~3600 casts, and the ganking down at my server in STV sundays is quite heavy :)<br /> Fish on </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/can-you-explain-open-water#post-10716 Mon, 19 Dec 2011 02:48:56 +0000 Nahevrys 10716@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>Hello all!</p> <p>I am new to the forum and I have a stupid question kinda noobish.</p> <p>When you say 'open water' it means that you are fishing 'not' in a pool, right? Everywhere (sea, lake, rivers and so) is considered 'open water'?</p> <p>And "inland" means not on the coast but in rivers/lakes/puddles...</p> <p>I know that it's stupid but sometimes I am lost, lol.</p> <p>Thank you very much for your answer(s)</p> <p>~Nahe~ </p> http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/topic/deepsea-sagefish-schools#post-10705 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 02:52:09 +0000 Cy 10705@http://www.elsanglin.com/forums/ <p>I just wanted to bring to attention that there are now Deepsea sagefish schools on the coast of twilight highlands where schools of Algaefin Rockfish are. I'm assuming that they share spawn points now, haven't tested it yet tho. </p>