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[Stranglethorn Extravaganza] 4th Win

  1. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Today I won my 4th Extravaganza out of the about 9 or 10 contests I have done.
    So I'd figure I'd post some strategies here.

    I started about 10 minutes before the start of the contest to find a good place. I decided to begin fairly north on the east-coast where it wasn't fairly busy.

    As Blizzard made winning the contest an achievement, the contest was more busy than before.
    As a general strategy throughout the contest I tried avoiding the directions where everyone was going. I figured if the group, say, all headed south and fished theirselfs enough Stranglekelp and whatever they find, there would be quite a high rate of spawning in the north. This seemed to work allright.

    If you know where a big group of people is and you are moving in front of them in the same direction, another thing to do is to make "decoy" pools. With this I mean, you catch 4 fish from one school, and when you have done that, you automatically know that there is not much fish left in the pool (if it didn't disappear already). Though, the competition will not know that those pools are almost empty, and in that way can be used to slow down whole groups of moving fishers.

    I think this, with most basic strategies as not fishing in pools with more than 2 or 3 people already fishing there and after a pool is empty, watch where other guys go, and go in a different direction will give you fairly good chance of winning the contest.

  2. AvatarIlluthas <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    But why win it 4 times when another person can actually get a reward from it?

  3. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Illuthas wrote:

    But why win it 4 times when another person can actually get a reward from it?

    Well, I just like to compete in the contest and if I happen to get 40 fish first, why not turn it in. If you say you have 40 fish in general chat, they don't believe you anyway.
    If this should be seen as unfair, I think Blizzard should have put in a system that won't let you win when in possesion of both reward objects, even if you can delete them.

  4. Balazar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Alas, still haven't won it, and only come close once, really.

    Today I got to about 24 before someone won it. Didn't help that fishing buddy, which had been working fine all week, errored out at the tourney (possibly due to the tourney timer).

  5. Jolly Rogers <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    I have participated in the contest many times but only showed up on time or had any will to win 4x and 3 of which i won completing my fishing set (replaced zg lure trinket) as far as strat goes i just try and stay away from people and stay in the few hot spots that spawn lots of nodes close by (including the 2 coves by grom'gal and the shore by the small isle for twink fishers) keep moving and fish fast haha. And for the 4 win deal i dunno im all for compition in fishing but i feel at least for the time being let the achievement rushers have at it, but still thats just me.

  6. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Balazar wrote:

    Alas, still haven't won it, and only come close once, really.
    Today I got to about 24 before someone won it. Didn't help that fishing buddy, which had been working fine all week, errored out at the tourney (possibly due to the tourney timer).

    I got errors at the contest aswell, but I turned off the timer in the options screen which helped.

  7. Balazar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Yeah, there was an update mentioning the fishing contest timer which I installed. Alas, at the time I was more worried about getting on with the contest, so I hit the "Disable Add-ons" option, and at that point, I was pretty much without Fishing Buddy.

    Here's hoping that after WotLK releases, folks will be busy doing that, and not the fishing contest!

  8. Picholine <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    Noodleguitar wrote:

    Illuthas wrote:

    But why win it 4 times when another person can actually get a reward from it?

    Well, I just like to compete in the contest and if I happen to get 40 fish first, why not turn it in. If you say you have 40 fish in general chat, they don't believe you anyway.
    If this should be seen as unfair, I think Blizzard should have put in a system that won't let you win when in possesion of both reward objects, even if you can delete them.

    yeah, you make a good point - even without someone winning multiple times, there can only be 52 people PER YEAR, PER SERVER that can qualify for getting the "Salty" title. each time a prior winner wins again, the chances of the non-winners getting the title dramatically decreases. either blizzard felt a need to inject a massive amount of competition back into the fishing tournament, or they want the title to be unbelieveably difficult to get. couple the requirement for the tournament win with "The One That Didn't Get Away" and Magical Crawdad, and you have a very, VERY difficult title to obtain.

    so why shouldn't you continue to win the title when you already have? absolutely no reason -- blizzard is to blame for creating a system wherein winners can keep losers exponentially down. :D

    EDIT: edited to thank you for contributing your winning strategies to this forum. thanks! :)

  9. AvatarMarlburo <Extremely Salty>, 2 months ago:

    There are two types of people in the World of Warcraft. Some people will come across a lowbie and kill them without thinking about it, others will not. I HATE world pvp, but i do take fishing seriously. I have won the tournament 8 times, much for the same reason people kill lowbies: because I can. I have a fishing guild with only 5 members but we are all dedicated fiherman with 18 wins between us. Do we bring scouts to tell the "fisher" to head north or south? Yes. Do we have bodyguards? Yes. Does the fisher often have to gquit only to be reinvited when they have 40 to avoid sabotage? Yes. If we are the only ones with the salty title or fishing tournament wins we would be very happy, I say this everytime we win.....if YOU want to win, join the guild.

  10. Picholine <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    Marlburo wrote:

    There are two types of people in the World of Warcraft. Some people will come across a lowbie and kill them without thinking about it, others will not. I HATE world pvp, but i do take fishing seriously. I have won the tournament 8 times, much for the same reason people kill lowbies: because I can. I have a fishing guild with only 5 members but we are all dedicated fiherman with 18 wins between us. Do we bring scouts to tell the "fisher" to head north or south? Yes. Do we have bodyguards? Yes. Does the fisher often have to gquit only to be reinvited when they have 40 to avoid sabotage? Yes. If we are the only ones with the salty title or fishing tournament wins we would be very happy, I say this everytime we win.....if YOU want to win, join the guild.

    i disagree with you, but holy crap - marry me anyways.

  11. Suddsy <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    Marlburo wrote:

    ...If we are the only ones with the salty title or fishing tournament wins we would be very happy

    Right on!

    I'm an elitist at heart (not to be confused with snobbery please), and I love the airs that the Salty tittle will bring with it and I love the idea that my second win makes that much more exclusive.

    I'd still be out there every Sunday, but then I wouldn't still be in a relationship. :p

    I am concerned about some of the trolling on the WoW professions and suggestion forums though. There has been a trend with the achievements that if enough people whine loud enough the top end requirements get dropped. Look at what happened with the Hallowed tittle. Others are clamoring to make the tourney either more accessible or easier to win. So if you've got the inclination head over there and put in your 2 cents and let the devs know what the ones who have put in the effort to win think about letting others get the same rewards for less work.

  12. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Suddsy wrote:

    ...There has been a trend with the achievements that if enough people whine loud enough the top end requirements get dropped....

    I know this was the case with The Hallowed title achievement (didn't mind this at all :)), but those kind of achievements are only available for a short duration each year. I don't know if they have already done the same with achievements which are always available?
    Anyway, the top end achievement for fishing seems indeed to be winning the Extravaganza once. I'd really like them to keep it in the list for Salty as Salty title will be more exclusive. With enough time (plenty of it until lvl 80) a lot of people could eventually manage the "One That Didn't Get Away" achievement.

    Btw for the people who didn't win the Extravaganza yet indeed only 52 of them can get the Salty title each year, even less if the earlier winners decide to nick in some more victories [evil smile...].

  13. heraklen <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    I sincerely hope the Salty title gets nerfed like the Hallowed title.

    With that I mean that they skip the win of the tournament as a requirement for Salty , Tournament winners can get an own title.

    Still: both the "The one that didn't get away" and "Mr Pinchys magical crawdad" should make the title hard enough to get.
    Only letting 52 people each year to get the title + the numerous ways people can destroy the competition for others don't make it something I would waste my time on after trying enough times to get a win on my server , and transferring to another server for just a title isn't something fun to do , achievements should be a FUN perk , not something you get frustrated to think of.

  14. Vicenti <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if they did end up dropping it, it does seem a little strange how they would throw in a requirement that made the achievement only achievable by a handful of people on each server. That in itself isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but when you compare it to some of the other achievements that give a title, there is no such limiting requirement with them, so we see and inequality. Kinda makes me wonder if it was and oversight?

  15. Upstate <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    I'd like to see as many "Salty" titles as possible. After winning the extravaganza twice it costs 10Gold or so in tastyfish to deprive the competition so it IS a sacrifish. My spin on the win is that the jagged west coast packs the pools a lot closer (especially where the little group of islands are near the shore) than the smooth east coast. It also means there is actually more coast line for pools! Being aggressive and stubborn in an area can cause competition to steer clear of you. Take the pole first - that trinket never gets used in BC (I wonder about WOTLK though).

  16. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Upstate wrote:

    Take the pole first - that trinket never gets used in BC (I wonder about WOTLK though).

    I use the trinket always when I'm going to do an instance/raid in Coilfang Reservoir :)

  17. Picholine <Angler>, 2 months ago:

    Noodleguitar wrote:

    Upstate wrote:

    Take the pole first - that trinket never gets used in BC (I wonder about WOTLK though).

    I use the trinket always when I'm going to do an instance/raid in Coilfang Reservoir :)

    OT - Hydrocane's considerably easier to obtain.

    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9452

  18. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    Picholine wrote:

    OT - Hydrocane's considerably easier to obtain.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=9452

    Nothing beats the look of being a fish. And the staff doesn't give underwater movement speed increase :)
    http://www.wowhead.com/?item=19979

  19. Balazar <Salty>, 2 months ago:

    I'm a little mixed on the achievement. Even though I think I might never win the extravaganza, I'd probably be fine with it being a requirement. Still, I do think it's fairly extraordinarily limiting to have it be a requirement, along with several very rare catches.

    At the same time, I was originally pretty happy looking forward to my "the hallowed" title, as I had gotten the squashling drop the prior year, and lucked into a cloth hat drop this year. I also think if they hadn't nerfed the mask requirement (which I think it was good for them to have nerfed), nobody would have the title. As it was, after the patch, I logged in; looking forward to seeing the tile on me. Just looking around Shatt, there were 5-6 folks in view with the title on. I turned it off right away.

    It's a tough balance. I like the idea of such titles being something you have to be dedicated to doing. I less like them when luck is a big factor, such as with drops, as you can be plenty dedicated, but still fall prey to bad luck. Make a title too easy, and it's not that special anymore. But I also have a friend who missed the hallowed achievement due to never getting the hat either on Headless Horseman runs, nor via trick or treating, despite the fact that he logged in every hour or so, even during work, to do it in hopes of getting that final item.

    I'd probably be fine with removing the fishing tourney win requirement. There's a lot of work one still needs to do to get the title. Perhaps replace it with a requirement to fish up the various rare fish from the tourney pools, or make the tourney more frequent. But I'm also mostly fine if they don't do that - some titles should be rare. Hopefully, not every achievement will be QQ'd into easy mode.

    Oh, and - my plan if I do ever win, is to get the trinket, as it sounds fun. The pole is nice, yes - but so far, it's not like it allows you access to anything you can't get with just good skill and other equipment and lures.

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