Just curious if this is really the skill to avoid getaways... I'm sitting ~515, but I got all of 12 catches fishing for 10 minutes chain-casting. Even if each took 20 seconds, which it didn't, that's still 20% while only 10 skill short. Was I just having awful luck, or is it higher?
[Fishing] Dalaran really 525?
It is confirmed: you can catch the Giant Sewer Rat while fishing in the Eventide Fountain. I caught one before I managed to find my last gold coin on my level 15 Alt:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=The+Underbog&cn=RincewindI started fishing in the fountain at fishing level 1. Leveled all the way to 450 trying to get the Coin Master. The only place I have fished was that fountain. Woot!
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 2 years ago:
Casts that land at the edges of the fountain catch Underbelly fish. Hence it is possible to catch a Giant Sewer Rat there, but only if your casts land at the edge. Much easier to catch it from the Underbelly itself.
hoooyeeeaaa <Angler>, 2 years ago:
Thanks for that tip el I'm gonna start the coin master soon myself good to know you can go for the sewer rat at the same time.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 2 years ago:
Hoooyeeeaaa - in this case, it is more effective to fish separately for each. When fishing in the fountain, you'll want fountain catches all the time, otherwise you waste part of the benefit of the gold coin lucky buff. The lucky buff won't buff Underbelly catches like the Sewer Rat - it only applies to fountain catches like coins. It's also far easier to fish for the Sewer Rat in the Underbelly itself, because there's a lot more water to choose from.
I was just fishing in Dalaran Fountain, trying to get the coins.
I had a fishing skill of 570 (Skill(450) +Rod(40) +Hat(5) +Lure(75))
I still managed to get a Bent Fish Hook... and that was while I had the Coin Buff as well
When I got the hook, I made sure my Lure was still attached.
This tells me that either a) 525 is not the cap, b) the cap is not 100% and there is always a small chance of getting junk, or c) The coin buff bugs out the skill cap, and causes players to be able to catch junk when they have the buff.
Perhaps there's another explanation? Any further info on this would be appreciated.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 2 years ago:
Bent Fishing Hooks are not skill-related junk.
There are very specific items of junk that are caught due to insufficient skill, listed on (Not) Catching Junk. All other junk items are successful catches.
Unfortunately when junk catches replaced fish that got away in patch 3.1, junk items that were already in the water were not changed. Confusion is inevitable.
el wrote:
Bent Fishing Hooks are not skill-related junk.
There are very specific items of junk that are caught due to insufficient skill, listed on (Not) Catching Junk. All other junk items are successful catches.
Unfortunately when junk catches replaced fish that got away in patch 3.1, junk items that were already in the water were not changed. Confusion is inevitable.That essentially means that "b) the cap is not 100% and there is always a small chance of getting junk" is true... although each location may vary in it's junk that is not avoidable (and may or may not have unavoidable junk)... Bent Fishing Hook, is trash that will not be removed from the Fountain's 'loot table', no matter how high your skill level is.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 2 years ago:
Incorrect logic. If you fish with skill 1 you will catch a lot of skill-related junk, but have almost no chance of catching a Bent Fishing Hook.
Think of having 2 completely separate loot tables. (1) is the skill-related junk table, (2) the successful catch table. Bent Fishing Hook are on the successful catch table. If your effective skill is 525 or above, the successful catch table is always used. If your effective skill is below 525, there's a chance of the skill-related loot table being used. The more below, the greater the chance. The catch isn't based on "whether an item is junk", it's based on which loot table is selected.
(Obviously that's simplified for the fountain, since the coin buff effectively adds an extra dimension to the successful loot table.)
My logic is not incorrect. It is not how you view it, but it is accurate.
Bent Fishing Hooks are junk... they will not be removed from the loot table in Dalaran's Fountain, regardless of your skill level.
Perhaps I shouldn't state that there is "always" a chance of getting junk... but that some fishing locations will always have their own chance of getting junk, regardless of your skill.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 2 years ago:
I suppose it depends how you look at it! From my perspective, Bent Fishing Hooks are almost avoidable by having low skill, and the chance of catching them increases with skill up to 525. In the vast majority of places there aren't any junk-quality items in the regular (successful) loot table, so there are no junk catches of any kind once you reach the skill threshold,
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