Hello. Sorry with my english.
Someone might put a guide on how to get to coach fishing as fast as possible?
A simple guide for those who have not seen the beta know the shortest path and so the 13th attempt to become the first angler to get to 450?
Thank you
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 8 months ago:I will put a full guide online just before WotLK is launched. But in summary:
If you are planning to attempt the 450-first, I suggest hearthing back to a friendly capital city in Azeroth, where you should experience less lag than Northrend.
If every second is important: As alliance, take the boat from Stormwind to Borean Tundra, because the journey is shorter, so the boat leaves more frequently.
Hey el, can you confirm the fishing trainers exact location? By visual way (which house when you get out of the boat from Stormwind) and/or coordinates.
Ty!
Csirke
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 8 months ago:I've added further description here. I'll give 2 detailed examples, but it really is quite straight-forward:
el wrote:
- Alliance: Boat from Stormwind Harbor (the pier at the north end) to Valiance Keep. On arrival at Valiance Keep, run off the boat and up the steps, with the inn on your right. On your left there is a boat moored in the middle of the Valiance Keep. Turn left and run across the boat. In front you will see the garrison building. The trainer is outside the garrison building, on the left side, near the sea wall.
Thank you very much:
That is the description that I was looking for. Perfect.
So, will fishing be the same when WoTLK comes out in that you can still gain skill ups even in Stormwind? So basically, if I wanted to get to 450, I could still stand in Stormwind and gain skill ups?
I remember in one of your guides it said "You wont be able to skill up traditionally without doing dailies." That makes me worried that there's something more involved than just hearthing back to SW and skilling up points.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 7 months ago:Fishing is easy: Just catch a lot of fish.
Cooking requires daily quests to advance beyond 415-425 skill - both to purchase recipes, and to gain Northern Spices used in those recipes.
I'm aiming to put a WotLK site update online in the next 24 hours, which covers all this in more detail. I will also try and write a WotLK "quick start" guide, for anyone suffering from information overload.
Hey El. Why not just stand on the dock where you learn grandmaster fishing and fish your way up to 450 there? Lets use your number. Five hours. That will require 30 +100 lures. The total cast time for all of those would be 90 seconds (I believe the new lure cast time is 3 seconds). It seems like you'd spend 90 seconds just using your hearth and then rushing from your hearth location to the nearest body of water. So it doesn't seem like time is really going to be saved. I guess it comes down to two issues.
1. Lets assume you have solid gear and a million or so +100 lures saved up. Will 535 fishing be enough to avoid getaways? I believe this is even good enough for Dalaran, as you mentioned that somebody with good gear and the best lures should be OK leveling up their skill there. So it seems like it should be good enough for the two Northrend starting zones.
2. Will it be possible to grab a rare fish there? If it's only baseline fish in those waters that don't give a raid-worthy bonus after being cooked (the Northrend equivalent of Barbed Gil Trout), I guess I won't care.
3. I guess another issue will be lag and possible Northrend world downs. I'm guessing this is the main reason why you're recommending one leave Northrend for this.
It's number two that gets me. What kinda saddens me is thinking about five hours worth of Northrend fish (which I could use to raise cooking and possibly get a rare fish out of) vs five hours of fish I will throw away. I guess I could use this time to go for a low-level rare somewhere. Maybe hearth to Zoram'gar Outpost.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 7 months ago:Indeed, lag and server stability is the main reason for suggesting a return to Old Azeroth. You can also gain a small rested bonus, and are not at risk of being attacked.
Dalaran will not be an option at the very start, because nobody will have high enough level to enter the city (portals, summons, etc still require someone to level a little).
Overall, fishing open water in northrend is a good option if the servers are good enough to allow it. Fish inland open water. Pymgy Suckerfish will be popular with Alchemists. Plus, almost all the other fish can be cooked into something "nice" eventually. Even the "trash fish", Bonescale Snapper can be cooked into a +Hit buff food. The core of the cooking guide suggests inland water in Grizzly Hills or Howling Fjord, because there are slightly more options to cook your catch, but either of the 4 lowest-level zones in Northrend are viable. All require 380 to cast, 475 to stop get-aways. Coastal waters contain too many fish that cannot be cooked, with no simple high-value recipe for the trash fish (Rockfin Grouper).
You can use the quirk where "unnamed" coastal water (zone name, with no sub-zone) contains inland fish, to find suitable water close to the arrival points. For Alliance, Valgarde (Howling Fjord) has inland water, so you can fish right next to the trainer. Or you can sit with the penguins, on the ice opposite the dock in Valiance Keep (Borean) - just don't go into The Frozen Sea area. You can watch everyone else arriving on the boat.
Horde are best avoiding Borean Tundra, because the inland water near Warsong Hold will be a popular questing area, and the nearest unnamed coast is probably close to Coldarra, wasting a few minutes of travel/disorientation. Instead travel a short distance north from Vengeance Landing (Howling Fjord), along the coast. There are no Alliance quests in that area, so it should be "safe" on PvP realms. Again, just be careful you do not wander into The Frozen Sea.
el wrote:
Indeed, lag and server stability is the main reason for suggesting a return to Old Azeroth. You can also gain a small rested bonus, and are not at risk of being attacked.
Dalaran will not be an option at the very start, because nobody will have high enough level to enter the city (portals, summons, etc still require someone to level a little).
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Eastern Kingdoms may also experience lag and server stability issues with all the new death knights running around.
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Eastern Kingdoms may also experience lag and server stability issues with all the new death knights running around.
Good call. Outland might start to suffer problems too very quickly. It can't take very long to go from 55-60, and from there, it's a short jaunt to the Dark Portal.
I'm guessing Kalimdor will be the best place to go. If Zoram'gar Outpost is hearthable, I'll probably use that. Go for the Steelscale Crushfish. If Stonebull is really all it's cracked up to be, you could use that too.
Yoco <Salty>, 7 months ago:el wrote:
... Even the "trash fish", Bonescale Snapper can be cooked into a +Hit buff food.
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Coastal waters contain too many fish that cannot be cooked, with no simple high-value recipe for the trash fish (Rockfin Grouper).
Though 'trash' fish is not as useful as buff food fish, one thing that WotLK adds is that even the basic foods cooked from them have a rather important change over their outlandish and azerothian counterparts: the cooked foods now act as both food and water (well, that's what the web sites say, so I assume that's true). Previously, mana restoring food was quite rare (Hot Buttered Trout, Skullfish Soup). My mana using characters, other than mages, are looking forward to this change a lot - an easy, cheap and reliable source of mana that doesn't require a trip to a drink vendor nor requires pestering a mage.
Where does the ship arrive in Northrend from Menethil harbor? It goes to the same spot as the one from SW?
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 7 months ago:So I have to take the boat from SW if I wanna learn new fishing skill... More lag. :(
Airwave <Angler>, 7 months ago:I was realm first on Hellscream (EU) to 450 fishing. It's a realm-wide announce, so I got like 30 whispers about it. I leveled by fishing for about 4 hours in Azuremyst Isle.
el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 7 months ago:Congratulations. Finbarr just gained it on Ravenholdt (EU). I presume you gained the Feat of Strength?
It also announces on the other faction?
Airwave <Angler>, 7 months ago:el wrote:
Congratulations. Finbarr just gained it on Ravenholdt (EU). I presume you gained the Feat of Strength?
Yes, I did gain the Feat of Strength.
Csirke4 wrote:
It also announces on the other faction?
Good question, I don't know.
Maybe make an alt and ask ppl around in the other faction, and before I forget... GRATZ! =)
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