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[Fishing] Pygmy Suckerfish

  1. Talathan <Angler>, 12 months ago:

    I've not been playing my main for maybe as much as 2 months. Shortly after I quit, the price of Pygmy Suckerfish on my server took a nosedive. Since the alt I had begun working on wasn't even lvl 30 yet, I had no idea what was going on in Northrend. I had heard that Blizz had significantly increased the catch rate of them in the patch that had just come out a few days before, and that made a lot of sense.

    Ok, now that alt is in Northrend. Today I spent over an hour fishing in Grizzly Hills where I know it well (over 3000 fish caught there). Back in January I was getting 1 Pygmy Suckerfish in every 10 successful casts. If anything, it actually seems to be closer to 1 in every 12-15 casts.

    My question is: Have things reverted to the way they used to be... or did they never change?

  2. Azaguth <Salty>, 12 months ago:

    Non-pool fishing doesn't seem to have changed any for pygmies. Go fish some pools up. You'll get about a 65-80% pygmy drop rate (at least in my experience, it has been much greater than 50%).

  3. TheTacoMan <Salty>, 12 months ago:

    I would say at LEAST 80% catch rate from pools. Pools are so much more worthwhile than open water fishing these days

  4. Azaguth <Salty>, 12 months ago:

    Generally in the process of fishing up mats for a 20 stack of fish feasts, I end up with 5 stacks of pygmies (as well as about 5 crates, and probably 5 crystallized water, for a total of approximately 130 casts).

    So 100 pygmies from 130 casts = 76.92%.

    The margin of error on that, since it's an average based on 3 such runs (390-400 total casts, and no exact numbers), is probably + or - about 7.5%.

    I'll keep better numbers from now on on my weekly fish feast mat runs, and post an update so we can figure out a better percentage for pygmies in pools. I'd guess it's right at 80%, but I could be wrong.

    Maybe this will give me the excuse to go fish up the two dark herring I wanted to get for dual wielding. Gotta upgrade my rogue from the rockhide strongfish he's currently dual wielding, since they're getting weak for his level.

  5. Talathan <Angler>, 12 months ago:

    Ah, ok. You're giving me a lot of incentive NOT to fish pools! What I'm fishing for mainly is Bonescale Snapper. In Grizzly Hills at least, they're caught in about 58% of the casts. I then use Glacial Salmon (20% catch rate) as my "buff food." For every Firecracker Salmon I eat, I eat at >least< 4 Grilled Bonescale (for the mana more often than not). When I go fishing, it's usually because I ran out of snapper. The Glacial Salmon is just icing on the cake. Pygmy Suckerfish used to be the financial incentive to stay until my bags were full. Now they're not.

  6. Azaguth <Salty>, 11 months ago:

    Well, I still want to get a general idea overall of how often pygmies drop from northrend pools (since I suspect it may be the same drop rate for all the pool types).

    I'll go ahead and post some preliminary data, note this doesn't cover all pool types, it just covers Nettlefish, Musselback Sculpin, Glacial Salmon and Dragonfin Angelfish pools. Please note this is ONLY from pool fishing, and it is a very small data sample obtained only from fishing for personal buff food and fish feasts. The percentages from location to location may vary BECAUSE it's such a small sample data set.

    i'll start by location, then put it all together:

    Borean Tundra, Lake Kum'uya
    59 Musselback Sculpin
    7 Crystalized Water
    4 Reinforced Crate
    57 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 70
    81.43% Pygmies

    Dragonblight, Dragonspine Tributary
    20 Dragonfin Angelfish
    1 Reinforced Crate
    1 Crystallized Water
    13 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 22
    59.09% Pygmies

    Dragonblight, Drak'mar Lake
    7 Dragonfin Angelfish
    1 Reinforced Crate
    6 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 8
    75% Pygmies

    Grizzly Hills, (no zone subset name)
    29 Glacial Salmon
    3 Reinforced Crate
    20 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 32
    62.5% Pygmies

    Grizzly Hills, Zeb'halak
    16 Glacial Salmon
    1 Crystallized Water
    11 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 17
    64.71% Pygmies

    Grizzly Hills, Zim"bo's Hideout
    3 Glacial Salmon
    1 Crystallized Water
    2 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 4
    50% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, Bittertide Lake
    22 Nettlefish
    2 Crystallized Water
    20 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 24
    83.33% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, Frenzyheart River
    5 Nettlefish
    3 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 5
    60% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, River's Heart
    26 Nettlefish
    1 Reinforced Crate
    1 Crystallized Water
    21 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 28
    75% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, (no zone subset name)
    4 Nettlefish
    4 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 4
    100% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, Wildgrowth Mangal
    14 Nettlefish
    2 Crystallized Water
    11 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 16
    68.75% Pygmies

    Sholozar Basin, Wintergrasp River
    3 Nettlefish
    1 Crystallized Water
    4 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Casts: 4
    100% Pygmies

    Overall totals:
    208 pool-specific fish (74 Nettlefish, 48 Glacial Salmon, 27 Dragonfin Angelfish, 59 Musselback Sculpin)
    16 Crystallized Water
    10 Reinforced Crate
    172 Pygmy Suckerfish
    Total Pool Casts: 234
    73.5% of casts yielded Pygmy Suckerfish

    Please keep in mind this is a relatively small data sample (<250 total casts), so there is a possibly large margin of error (probably plus or minus 7.5%, I'd wager). So the overall chance of catching pygmies from a pool is probably about 66-81%.

    Anyone else wanna hammer this down further by adding more cast data?

    I'll edit this post when I have over 1k casts total, that should bring the margin of error to about 5% either way.

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