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[Fishing] Sea Turtle Problem

  1. Sevira <Angler>, 11 months ago:

    the main problem I have is not that i have over 3k fished objects and yet no turtle

    the problem is that I don't know if the turtle is really only fishable in schools

    in the english patchnotes it says "fishing pools"
    in every achievement-description where blizz talks about interaction with schools they call them "nodes" or "schools"

    in the german version they text implies that you can fish the turtle in every open water where you can fish

    additionally a friend of mine just got the turtle today and told me he was fishing in open water

    so, what to believe now?

    all I see on the internet is people claiming they got the turtle from schools
    but actually getting it from a school doesn't mean you won't get it from open water as well, right?
    I mean, is this just a bad translation in the german version or could it possibly be that hundred of people just missunderstood something?

    my english is a bit rusted and therefore I'm totally unsure if I just misunderstood something in the german and/or english patchnotes or if they just misstranslated it

    I mean, did anyone hear from someone else getting the turtle from open water?

  2. Nonzor <Angler>, 11 months ago:

    I've talked to a few people on my server who have gotten the Sea Turtle, and we all got it from fishing in a pool/school/node - that is, a specific, sparkling place that is named when you mouse over it. It's my understanding that it comes only from the pools.

    Best of luck!

  3. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 11 months ago:

    Open water Sea Turtle catches...

    • One-off claims are difficult to confirm. For example, there is no combat log record of where fish came from. And there are a plethora of freak events that can lead to such claims, such as a pool respawning where someone was fishing: It is statistically very unlikely to happen, but with enough people fishing, it will occur.
    • "Pools" is easy to mis-translate, because a pool could also be read as a body of water, like a lake. "Pools" isn't a Blizzard word. They would normally refers to "schools of fish", although they've used other words in the past, like "shoals". I use "pools" here because so many of these "fishing nodes" aren't schools of fish at all - Pure Water, Floating Wreckage. Node is a programming term, which I try and avoid using here.
    • Some GMs have also been reported as saying the turtle can be caught from any water in Northrend. I'm surprised they are giving game-play information out. Unfortunately most GMs simply read documentation, so are prone to the same misunderstandings as translators.

    In contrast:

    • The English patch notes, and the achievement, very clearly state "pools". Those tend to be written by developers/designers, so are likely to be more reliable.
    • One of the reasons most anglers are reporting pool catches is because the patch notes, achievements, guides, and the experience of everyone else they know says "pools", so that's the only place they are trying. But there is also a lot of open-water fishing happening. Most of the daily quest catches are not fished from pools. Millions of open-water catches: If there was anything unusual in the water, we would have heard about it by now.

    So...

    I cannot rule out the possibility that the Sea Turtle can be caught from open water. But "weight of evidence" is strongly towards pool catches. That said, I'm very interested in detailed confirmation of open-water catches.

    Added a bit on the word "pool":

    From a US dictionary:

    1. a (1): a small and rather deep body of usually fresh water (2): a quiet place in a stream (3): a body of water forming above a dam b: something resembling a pool (a pool of light)
    2. a small body of standing liquid
    3. a continuous area of porous sedimentary rock that yields petroleum or gas
    4. swimming pool [recreational]

    Curiously, that source cites an old-Germanic word " pfuol" in the etymology.

    None of those definitions can apply to seas, or large bodies of water. And therefore "Northrend fishing pools" are not the same as "fishable open water in Northrend".

  4. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 9 months ago:

    Crygil:

    "The word from on high is thus: 'The Turtle mount should, currently, only be found in pools throughout Northrend.' ... There has been some genuine confusion on this topic, largely due to reports of players receiving the Turtle Mount from something other than a pool. Hopefully, this alleviates some of that confusion. We're also looking into the legitimacy of claims to have acquired the mount, from other bodies of water."

  5. Spoonzilla <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    I was looking up this achievement on WoWhead (http://www.wowhead.com/?achievement=3218) and ManBearPgg linked a chat with a GM, who confirmed that this mount can be caught in open water.

    Chat: http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/431/seaturtlegmchat.jpg

  6. Celwinde <Salty>, 9 months ago:

    Spoonzilla, I've been given misinformation from GMs before.

    There was a level 80 white tiger mob in Skettis at one point. He was an elite rare mob that spawned in the back of the cave where the black tigers are located. When I found out about this mob and went to tame him on my Hunter, I discovered he didn't seem to be in game anymore. After a countless number of tickets were submitted to GMs by many Hunters, we were told by most of them they can't give out game tips and tricks. A few of them confirmed he was still in the game, but may have changed location, and some of them said he was no longer in game.

    Suffice it to say, it wasn't too much longer we found out for sure the mob really had been removed from the game without explanation.

    So even though it's a GM, take the information they give you with a grain of salt.

  7. Azaguth <Salty>, 9 months ago:

    an 80 mob in Skettis? Sounds like a fluke...

  8. Alaylith <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    Azaguth wrote:

    an 80 mob in Skettis? Sounds like a fluke...

    It was lvl 70, the highest level back then. ;)

    The cat's name was Hawkbane.

  9. Isa <Salty>, 9 months ago:

    I got it out of a pool.

  10. seaborn <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    This one is a tough subject. You seem to have a Gm saying one thing, other GM's saying another. my opinion is they put this mount in the schools so that the fish bots, as there are many, could not catch the mount. I don't know for a fact that it cant be caught in open water, but if it could, I think we would see a lot of the fish bots talking about how they got it in open water.

  11. Xi <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    The thing is, I know someone who fished it up from open water, and that person is trustworthy. If it's only supposed to appear in schools, then maybe the item is bugged. I've seen several posts online of people claiming to have fished it out of open water, too. I've no reason not to believe them.

    Thing is, people only really fish in schools, so most of the reports of people finding it are obviously going to be from schools.

  12. Bogath <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    I've spoken to a GM about this issue, he told me that "you need to be fishing in schools and the drop rate is the same everywhere".
    AND he told me the drop chance is about 0.01%.

    Screenshot:
    http://s619.photobucket.com/albums/tt273/bogath/Turtle%20Mount/?action=view&current=GM1.jpg

  13. Xi <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    So that's 1/10000?

    How many fish will I need to catch in order to have a 90% chance of getting it?/10% chance of not getting it, or however it works.

  14. Gummo <The Pacifist>, 9 months ago:

    To have a 90% chance of catching it from the word go, assuming it's a 1/10,000 chance per cast, you'd need 23,025 catches.

    Chance of missing on every cast:
    (9999/10000)^23024 = .100006996776643337166645285289
    (9999/10000)^23025 = .099996996076965672832928620761

    For a 50% shot, you'd need 6,932 casts.

  15. Xi <Angler>, 9 months ago:

    Wow. 0.01% doesn't seem quite right, then? Quite a few people have the turtle, most seem to get it before 5000 catches. I would guess 0.02% is more likely.

  16. justBrando <Salty>, 9 months ago:

    I think its listed under the guide, but a great point is that the Dalaran fishing dailies require players to normally fish in open water. Considering the incredible number of people who do this, we would have known by now if the mount could be caught in open water.

  17. Clocked <Angler>, 1 month ago:

    25 hrs of fishing over 5 days and i finally got this beast, wasnt even paying too much attention and off the coast of Moaki in a pool the little guy finally came to me :)

  18. gubiithefish <Angler>, 1 month ago:

    Ehh, no offence but I was boored and wanted to get some time going.
    So I went down to a fishing spot, say a pool and tought "wtf?"
    After 3 fishes I get the turtle,
    Guild reaction; HOW THE #@$£ DID YOU GET IT?
    I was like, fishing in a pool i guess?
    and when I read ppl online they are like OMG I BEEN FISHING FOR 27 MONTH EVERY DAY ABOUT 24293 FISHES (even having controle over the number is crazy) AND I HAVEN'T CAUGHT THE FRIKKKING TURTLE YEEEEEEET...

    - So, I was lucky. 3 catches guys and the turtle was mine :)
    - - Regards Gubii - Kul'Tiras

  19. kirby <Angler>, 3 weeks ago:

    LMAO i caught it in 1 cast found it in an imperial manta ray school

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