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[Contests] The rage of not winning

  1. Schrodinger <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Been trying to win long before wrath, and still I fail every week. Despite being known as one of the more obsessive fisher girls on the server (8 hours straight in ironforge as horde) I dont have the comp under by belt.

    The title, has made the amount of people there worse......

    At best i get 30, at worse I get 25. But its always won in 20 min.... ><

    Any tips (and yes I have read every single one here)

  2. Illuthas <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Depends what you are doing (wrong).
    Are you placing your HS at BB?
    Where do you fish?
    Did you optimize your time by using :
    -A speed improvement?
    -Find fish?
    -Do you fish in other ppl's school?

    (These might sound silly but if it all counts up it can decide if you win or not,your fishing spot is the most important)

  3. Schrodinger <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Depends what you are doing (wrong).
    Are you placing your HS at BB? Yes
    Where do you fish? Ruins of Aboraz and south
    Did you optimize your time by using :
    -A speed improvement? rocket boots and mount
    -Find fish? Yes
    -Do you fish in other ppl's school? Only if theres one, not if theres more

  4. stirfry <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    In the places that you've been fishing at, do you find it pretty crowded?

    I had to find out where people *weren't* fishing before I won.

    Try making a cast bar just for fishing, then set auto loot and test out hitting the numbered keys for faster fishing action. Practice using this cast bar before you actually enter the tourney - until your fishing time is very fast. Water walking potion is also helpful to have - they last ten minutes, too, which is nice.

    Good luck!

  5. Schrodinger <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    done the cast bar thing and used water walking.

    Tried every tip in the book

  6. Belleflop <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    What I did was, instead of trying to out fish others, I out smarted them. For around 6 months I would watch patterns of people and where they would go. Usually two accounts to watch all of the coast. Some sundays had more people than others, some had more twinks than others. After awhile you can anticipate where people will be, and where they wont be. The key is to get 5-6 pools to yourself. Each server is different, and I'm sure now that there's more there for the title it's not going to be as easy. Some tricks would be to enlist friends to be decoys at pools ( a lot of real competitors won't stop if they see someone at a pool). Find a section that's unoccupied for a section of the tournament. A lot of fishers are polar and will go to where they see the pools. This does make some sense, however where there's no pools now could yield 4-7 in the next 5-10 minutes, ripe for the picking.

    The key is to stay patient, persistent, and most of all learn from past failures. I had a lot of 35+ loses, some as close as who right clicks fastest for the turn in. If you stay with it and improve each week you'll get it eventually.

  7. Tsathoggua <Angler>, 3 years ago:

    If it is any consolation, I've been entering the Stranglethorn Fishing competition for about a year-and-a-half. Admittedly, I'm doing so on the largest population RP-PvE server in Europe, and there is always a huge crowd crowding over pools up ad down both coasts of Stranglethorn. 26 minutes is the average win [with the rare occasional 20 minute win]. None of them have been me yet, 'though I'm nearly always within a fish or two of winning when the victor is announced.

    Just keep trying.

  8. Mordea <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    I know this is not what you want to hear, it certainly isn't what I wanted to hear when I was still trying to win. But a lot of it is luck.

    Having said that... yes you do have to have luck on your side in order to win this thing, but having luck on your side does no good unless you've got some of the finesses of the competition down.

    The hardest thing for me was fishing in "other people's" nodes. Outside of this competition, I would never dream of mining someone's mine, or fishing a pool where someone's already fishing. If someone's fighting a monster and it appears to me that there is even a remote possibility that they are trying to gather a resource, I will stand there and wait until they are done with the mob, give them a hand if necessary, and wait to see if they are gathering before I go for it myself. But with this competition, you cannot, under any circumstances, think that way. This is a competition. Your goal is to beat those people. It really hurt my brain to do that at first, but let's face it. This is not an etiquette contest. Miss Manners is not the judge. There is no "Polite" title.

    Once I got over that, I had to learn to listen to my instinct on whether or not I'd stop for a pool that already had someone fishing. Just because you can doesn't always mean it's a good idea. I don't share pools very often, I just needed to let myself know it's okay sometimes. Sometimes you have to let your inner voice tell you whether or not it's worth breaking your stride/unmounting to join someone at a pool. Sometimes you have to know when to move on if someone joins you at your pool. I don't know how else to explain it, but it really comes down to the subtle nuances. Using enhancements for speed, water walking, binding to Booty Bay--things like that are just assumed minimum requirements.

    Edit: Just had another thought... I wonder if there would be any benefit to having a friend there with you on a Traveler's Mammoth? Especially a paladin, with the crusader aura. You'd save mounting time by having them always mounted and you just hop on & off, which is nearly instant. Not sure, seems like any time saved would be made up by having to communicate with each other where to go, might involve too much coordination but just a thought.

  9. Kanobi <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Schrodinger, do you always fish at the ruins or have you tried the west coast by the horde town? I know each server and tournament is different, but I had worse luck on the east coast due to the influx of twinks and escorts. If you are not on a PvP server, then trying your luck northwest of Grom'Gol may be a good bet. Mostly horde players tend to run through there, whereas Booty Bay is neutral so you see both horde and alliance.

    Belleflop and Mordea bring up excellent points that I never tried...pally aura + friends "fishing" but not actually catching fish gives you a HUGE advantage over other fishermen/fisherwomen.

  10. Cnirec <Angler>, 3 years ago:

    It took me more than a year and after charting most if not all the pool spawns it appeared to me the west coast from just north of Grom'Gol, as Kanobi mentioned, to the south where the 2 pools spawn out around the small islands, had the most spawns per distance moved.

    After sticking to this theory, I'd try something different every third week probably, had both the trinket and pole within I'd guess 10 weeks. Just start north of the horde base camp and head south to the islands or vice-versa and repeat. Lots of small tips, to many to mention, but if midway or close to the turn around point, going south or north, and 2-3 fishers ride past in the direction you're heading back track as they will catch the spawns ahead of you. Good Luck since it is mostly Luck.

  11. moose <Angler>, 3 years ago:

    The best I've gotten is 35 fish when the winner is called. Wanting to try again today, but with the bad lag I'm getting it's not going to be worth it. (got the comcast bug unfortunatly...hope they get it fixed soon)

  12. Lampy <Angler>, 3 years ago:

    I have the comcast bug too. Only need to win the extravaganza and get a rare fish. I was fishing for the 22 lb lobster in Azshara until 1:10 then decided to hearth back and head my way to BB. I was DCd on the hearth and now cannot log in :(

  13. Triseult <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    I got 35 this week, and got REALLY unlucky both on pool spawns (spent 4 mins looking for one) and on getting non-tasties in a pool... Grr.

    That seems to be the story of my Extravaganza life so far. But I won't give up... After being all over STV trying out strategies, I've decided to pick one and stick to it no matter what. We'll see where that takes me.

    This thing is HARD... I've read all the advice I can over and over, and I've been at this for a few months now. I brought a friend along this week, and he couldn't believe how well I knew the contest's quirks, how fast I recast when landing my bobber outside a pool, etc... To which I said, not well enough apparently. :(

    Incidentally the Extravaganza is the only thing keeping me from my Salty title. So the stakes are high...

  14. Schrodinger <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Great smashed my headphones so now there useless....

    >_>...just getting sick of having non tasty fish in my damn pools, and fecking twinks taking them when I am trying to fish.

    I keep trying different methords, doing all you guys say.

    Sorry this comp is a crock of shit. Yes there is skill involved. But haveing a large segment luck dependent annoys the fuck out of me.

    Nothing is more irritating then a guy shouting out "LOL LOL FIRST TIME BEEN HERE LO9L LOL LOL I BETEZ YOU NOOOBS!" ....................

  15. Isa <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    I've been twice in my Hearthstone while a winner was declared... ;P

  16. Zahana <Angler>, 3 years ago:

    I'm taking time off, after the lag issues with comcast I damn broke my keyboard. I'm not going back until Lunar Festival, or maybe Love Is in the Air since that one is only a week and all the achievement whores trying to get salty will be working on getting that one instead.

  17. Erilis <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    Swiftness potions helped me a lot.

    Also I got 4 of my friends to be proactive gankers, with also some of them protecting me (not sure if you're on a pvp server though). It wasn't too difficult for me, but yeah that comp issues can be debilitating.

    Anyway, best of luck. (I'm a fisherwoman as well, and only 2 daily's away from Salty! ... I wish I wasn't so lazy when 3.0 came out... I swear for a month they haven't given me the right ones... oi!)

    Good luck! I believe in you! lawl

  18. Al <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    I've been trying this for quite some time now. Unfortunately, things have gotten worse on my server, over time. The more recent tourneys have featured a large number of "teams" which is tough for those of us who solo. The non-fisher members of said teams 1. pretend to fish and/or 2. just run up and down spotting pools, and/or 3. park some enormous mount right on the pool, preventing all others from casting, until their team member gets ready to fish that pool.

    It's not as much fun as it used to be. I've gotten some of the rare's in this, but no win. I'm much less enthusiastic over Sunday afternoons than I used to be.

  19. Isa <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    It's also busier now that it's an Achievement, isn't it? I wasn't worried about it for a while and only joined occasionally... Now I regret obviously!

  20. Schrodinger <Salty>, 3 years ago:

    .........38 today..... to make it worse then fecking guy who beat me was a guy who was in the same place fishing and started later then me.... 10 of my catches where oilys/firefins/and eels....

    I take this competition far to seriously....

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