Long time reader, first time poster. :)
My 70 mage is Salty (Rothchild) although he was my main in BC, I've re-joined the faith and am now working on getting Salty on Nicaea, my priest. (yah, I'm nuts like that) lol
I personally can understand why someone might have a reaction to seeing a Salty continue to compete, but I agree with those who say it's a competition and it's fair game to go back and keep going. I can't see doing it myself, although, like I said, I'm certainly trying on alts.
D: 1 off before winner announced....
I missed two cause i casted 2 quick before auto loot could loot.....
*bangs head against desk*
Even though this is a very old thread, I believe my post is about the "spirit" of STV contest too. As a foreword: I do try to win STV for the title and the pole. I was going to try STV before achievements were introduced, but since I switched factions and had to level character once again to level cap, I had no time to actually try the contest in the past. I've read some strategies and posts on it and it scarred me off somewhat.
After losing STV yet another time today, I start to question why Blizzard didn't change the quest since they introduced achievements. In my opinion, each character should have only one chance to win the contest and receive both the pole and trinket as rewards. Those people who have already won the contest in the past, should be able to redeem trinket or pole from Riggle Bassbait. Also they should only be able to turn in fish for money and items after winning the contest.
While some achievements do require luck (for example, We Had It All Along *cough*), most of them can be completed any time in the game. STV on the other hand is a one time per week opportunity that lasts somewhere between 15 to 20 minutes on my server. Chances are that with twinks and people who have already won the contest in the past messing around, I won't win it in foreseeable future.
I had no problem fishing in Bay of Storms for about 8 hours in a row and never seeing a single rare fish for achievement, but I have problem winning STV due to different factors. Sometimes it's that little lvl 19 twink who catches those 1-2 fishes that would made me a winner, sometimes it's people who have already won in the past, but who want to get either the trinket or the pole on their second attempt. I even know people who have won STV on my server more than 2 times on a single char.
I believe that during the times of old PVP ranking system, there were some rules of conduct that made people retire, after achieving High Warlord/Grand Marshal rank, so that the others could try to achieve that too. I don't understand why people can't stick with the same rules with STV and allow others to win. I personally don't hate people who win the contest and I always congratulate them, if they are from my faction, but if I see people winning twice, it makes me quite angry to be honest.
Also the twinks. Why they want to fish during the contest> They have little to no chance ever winning the contest as they have problems fishing in the area. Even if they do fish at Yojamba Isle, they will have trouble reaching two pools north from it as there are mobs. Without proper guardians, they just have to stick to those pools that spawn around the isle thus greatly reducing their chances to win. But I bet most of them come to fish for Keefer's Angelfish and not to win the contest, so if they actually start fishing before the contest winner was announced, they're doing a great job of screwing it up for the others, their own faction or not. There must be a special hell for them. It's the same sort of people who needs to fish in your pool after the contest is over, even though there are pools for everyone to stay busy for 2 hours. I seriously don't understand that: contest is over, you're trying to make some gold/catch a rare fish, so why bother sharing your pool with someone, if you can just move along the coast and fish there, getting more fishes?
Contest for me now is mindless grinding. I'm sure that I will say it was fun, if I win, but since I'm losing (39 fishes is my best result) I don't find it funny at all. On Saturday night I come to Booty Bay to set my hearthstone and move to one of the places where pools spawn. I bring Elixir of Water Walking with me, I bring my fishing boots that have a Minor Speed enchant on them and I remap my mounting button, so I can move faster to a distant pool. I sit there in front of PC 15-20 minutes before the contest and I have to try to move all of my RL appointments to other days or different time, so I can try to win yet again. Those 20 minutes are the most annoying 20 minutes of WoW I have every week and I simply can't quit there, considering that I do want to win. Sometimes I even start cursing when I see bugged pools, which are very hard to fish from, when I pass them, or when my bobber just doesn't want to land into the pool.
Changes that were made to fishing in WoTLK sure made it easier for most people, but they also sky rocketed the competition in STV, as people don't have to backtrack to old zones to level fishing as I did in the past. In my opinion, incoming changes to mounts and mounting speed, will make competition last even less time and it might even attract more people than there are now. I want to appraise Blizzard for making fishing more acceptable for masses, but I want to blame them also for ruining the contest. Wish I was smart enough to try it before WotLK.
We Had It All Along *cough* doesn't require any more luck than many of the other PvP achievements. It simply requires a group of people working together towards the same goal. I got it with a guild premade where we simply capped 2 bases and held the third until the very end. Sure it requires a good group, but so do many of the other PvP achievements (e.g. Defense of the Ancients, Stormtrooper, The Alterac Blitz, Resilient Victory to name a few). I don't think you could get any of those other achievements without a really good group actively working towards each one specifically, and that's not going to happen without a premade.
And one other note, nonameform. I think you will find that the harder you have to work for the win, the better it will feel when you finally get it. Don't let all those other factors discourage you, just remember that everyone else has to deal with them too, and so it is an advantage for you if you can figure out how to get through those difficulties. Think of how the contest will be a true achievement for you when you finally win it, and try to be inspired by that fact to only work harder at getting it, not get discouraged by it.
Also remember there is a lot of luck involved in winning. You can do everything perfect for weeks in a row and just never quite get the perfect drop pattern. This happened for me many times before I finally won. When things finally go perfect, it feels amazing.
Just remember, that getting the perfect drop pattern won't mean you win unless you are doing everything else right first, so just keep plugging at it and improving on your technique and that drop pattern will happen eventually for you.
Good luck!
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