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[Fishing] WotLK: Fishing and Achievements

  1. Itty <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    As mentioned on the "Achievements" page here at El's Anglin, several (seventeen, to be exact) fishing-related achievements are so far planned for Wrath of the Lich King. Many are not yet finished but will be fleshed out as Beta unfolds.

    I was fortunate enough to be invited to Beta recently and, like any good (obsessed) angler, one of my first acts was to try fishing. Sadly, there are no new "fishable" fish yet in the game. There is a "northern barb fish", which is the objective of a two-part quest where the first part involves literally banging on stuff that looks like seaweed until one of three things pops out: an undead spy, a crab, or the barbed fish. You then get pulled into combat with whatever popped out. It's reminiscent of the Terokkar "Taken in the Night" quest where you have to free people from spider cocoons. In other words, not very fun. It took me a while to do the two-part series and there wasn't even a fun item reward. It was just around 4 or 5 gold per stage.

    As also indicated here on El's Anglin', there's also a Northern Salmon quest fish, but I haven't done that quest yet.

    Going back to achievements, some of the most interesting achievements tie into Burning Crusade. There are two Mr. Pinchy achievements: one for getting his pet, the other for fishing him (or one of thirteen other rare fish). Oddly, the "Mr. Pinchy's Magical Crawdad Box" achievement does not automatically light up the "The Deadliest Catch" achievement, although you obviously need to catch Mr. Pinchy to get his box. I submitted a "bug" suggestion regarding this.

    There is also an achievement relating to the Old Man Barlo fishing quests. If you've done all five of them, this achievement lights up. This achievement was lit up for me immediately upon entering Beta without having to do them all again.

    The most interest achivement of all, though, is connected to the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza. There is a "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement but, frustratingly, it does not currently check to see if you've already won the tournament. It did not light up for me, despite me having in my possession and using both of the rewards available from the tournament. There are other achievements in the game that check for possessed items, though. For example, I got a "Feat of Strength" achievement because I have a really old, no longer available, epic mount in my bank. If the game can look for such an item, it can clearly look for others like bind-on-pickup tournament victory items. Hopefully, this will be fixed as Beta progresses. I submitted a suggestion on this, too.

    That's about all there is to report on fishing in WotLK so far. I haven't even found a Grand Master fishing trainer yet, and I don't expect to see one soon. As we all know, fishing is never near the top of the developers' to-do lists, so it will likely be a while before fishing pools and new fish make it into Beta.

    As they do, though, I'll keep you updated.

    Happy fishing!
    Itty, Stormreaver

  2. Sharina <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    I hope they fix those "bugs" in beta before release.

    I cannot imagine how many people might be frustrated about having their previous wins/achievements not count in the current time. It's kind of a slap in the face to the old school players, who in my opinion, have been very loyal to this game.

    I don't want to have to win it again -- also I think this is unfair to the people who have not won it yet. They may have to compete against other first timers, AND people who are trying to win it again just to get their achievement checked off. :(

  3. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Thanks for posting, Itty. Glad to see I'm not the only one fishing in the beta! I look forward to further reports.

    I've updated the Wrath of the Lich King pages.

    Interesting that you received the Old Man Barlo achievement retrospectively. El did not, even though she has done them all many times. I assume that "The Deadliest Catch" requires a catch because some of the fish are not bound on pickup, so having them in your inventory means nothing. But that isn't the case for Mr. Pinchy and a few others.

    Tigole (one of the designers) is active on various forums at the moment, giving the impression that Blizzard still haven't finished working on achievements. So maybe we won't all have to win the Booty Bay contest again... It will be interesting to see how many points they award for winning (the current points totals are place-holders only). Personally I think winning the contest is one of the hardest activities in the entire game, particularly on a mature PvP realm. But those that have never tried tend to assume it just requires "fishing" skill, and so is "easy".

    The current beta is still an alpha: Lots of core content missing (quests, zones, professions, abilities, you name it), and minimal server stability (last night Northrend was crashing or hitting 5-minute lag spikes several times each hour).

    Fishing as a profession is essentially not yet implemented. I hope they find time to complete it. In The Burning Crusade nothing fishing-related changed after the start of beta testing. That meant the release version had missing content (Blade's Edge, recipes in new low-level areas, etc) and design flaws (Golden Darter out of balance, broken distribution of fresh/salt-water fish in new low-level areas - which is happening again now in Stormwind, pools that couldn't be fished by those with short legs, and so on).

  4. Oberweiss <Moderator>, 1 year ago:

    Thank you for the updates! Keep them coming. Also, thanks for submitting those suggestions regarding retroactively achieving the fishing contest goal. I already get dirty looks for having won the trinket on my druid. I wouldn't want to make her win a third time; I might be exiled.

  5. Sharina <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Those of you who are in the Closed Beta could also make a post regarding the achievement for the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza, or any other issues on the Beta forums. Perhaps Blizzard will note the amount of feedback and act accordingly to change/fix things.

    There is already a post being made about the Master Angler issue here:

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8202608068&sid=2000

    Wotlk Beta Forums Index:

    http://beta.worldofwarcraft.com/forums

  6. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Tigole:
    "Ok, we updated it to check for the Arcanite Fishing Pole or the Hook trinket. "

  7. Oberweiss <Moderator>, 1 year ago:

    el wrote:

    Tigole:
    "Ok, we updated it to check for the Arcanite Fishing Pole or the Hook trinket. "

    Huzzah!

  8. Itty <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    In what may be a world first, I won the fishing tournament twice in one day. The first tournament was on my hunter alt, giving her the trinket. The second win was two hours later on the PvP Beta server. Just between you and me, I was the only one even in Stanglethorn Vale on the Beta server during this time, so I could have taken the full two hours and still won. Let's keep that our little secret, though ;)

    Anyway, I fished the tournament to test the "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement. Although Tigole has indicated that the achievement now checks for the pole or trinket, this build is not yet active. When I logged in, I was still not credited with the win. Upon winning the tournament, though, the achivement did light up.

    Sadly, this achievement did not unlock a title to display next to my name. This was quite disappointing, of course. I submitted a suggestion reading:

    "The "Master Angler of Stranglethorn" achievement, unlocked by winning the Stranglethorn Fishing Extravaganza, does not currently provide an in-game title for players to display next to their name. Players have been calling for this title since the introduction of the tournament, and the new achievement system would be the perfect mechanism for implementing this title.

    Please consider a "Master Angler" title to accompany this achievement (e.g, "Itty, Master Angler"). It would make a lot of players happy."

    Hopefully, such a title will eventually be added in, but only time will tell. I'll keep you updated with any developments. In the meantime, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed!

    Itty, Stormreaver

  9. Zhivago <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Just found a post on worldofraids.com that linked to this page listing all of the WotLK achievements, including ALOT of fishing achievements.

    Have fun!!!

    WotLK Fishing Achievements

  10. Asseel <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Lots of things to get, but at least they seem manageable. Though they'll likely adapt the fishing from a school one to require more than one time doing it. Probably most if not all of them. Still, a doable list. Though the fishing in SW or IF one might be tricky for me...LOL

    • Character: Asseel (US-Uldaman).
  11. Stephenn <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Hi all, I've recently received a beta key and will be glad to pass on any information that I can gleem from the beta. I noticed the same bugs that El mentioned above. But also I didn't get credit for doing all 5 of Old Man Barlow's quests (Even though I've done them 100 times probably) Submitted bug report.

    Stephenn
    http://wowengineer.wordpress.com

  12. Stephenn <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    It looks like they've renamed a bunch of the pools of wreckage. For the achievement named "The Scavenger" you have to catch something from the following pools of wreckage:

    Steam Pump Flotsam (Zangarmarsh)
    Bloodsail Wreckage (STV Coastal)
    Schooner Wreckage (Hillsbrad Foothills, Wetlands)
    Waterlogged Wreckage (STV River, Theramore Beach)
    Floating Wreckage (Feralas)

    The location in parentheses is where I found them.

    I also noticed that Oily Blackmouth schools are now called Abundant Oily Blackmouth Schools, or Lesser OBMS, Teeming OBMS, etc. Same with Firefin Snapper Schools. I'm assuming that each level has a different number of possible fish in it.

    BTW I'm on the Northrend PvE server so if you're there look me up.

    Stephenn
    http://wowengineer.wordpress.com

  13. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Past repeatable quest achievements aren't tracked, it seems. I'm currently trying to do all the dailies to check that Barloed does award eventually. Curiously, there has been a change to the way the quest fish appear on the test server: Like the pre-TBC quest fish, they are now caught alongside an existing catch - so you get 2 fish at once. At this stage it is still possible I'm just very lucky, but every quest fish has also been caught from the very first catch.

    I documented what I've discovered so far about the new pool names in the Wrath section. The patterns seem to reflect the type of trunk found - most obvious in Stranglethorn Vale, which always had two different wreckage pool types, depending on whether you were north or south of Grom'Gol.

    "Lesser", "Sparse", no prefix, "Abundant", and "Teeming" imply more fish per pool, or a better catch in some way. But an initial test did not show up any differences. It seemed like the pools had simply been renamed, pending a future change. I've not rechecked them in the last week.

    I'm also intrigued to know whether you find the random oily swoosh noise that has been added to Oily Blackmouth and Brackish Mixed pools as confusing as I did?

  14. Stephenn <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    As of the most recent patch one of two things have happened regarding the "You've Been Barlowed" Achievement.

    1) The objectives are now retroactive. I got credit for doing all 5 of the daily quests, without doing them all on the beta server. I haven't had a chance to do "The One that Got Away," yet. But I had done it many times on the regular server before the character copy.

    2) It's glitched now and improperly gave me credit. Similar to the "Reach Level 80" achievement that I have credit for when I'm only 72.

  15. GIGAR <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Well... That's why they call it a beta :P
    But the lvl72 bug is just hillarious, lol!

  16. Anglin Man <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Interesting. In the beta, I got the Barloed achievement right away, but still waiting for the STV achievement to be unlocked. i'm sure it will be updated. I also hope that we can get some sort of achievement for both grand prizes. Since they are essentially quest rewards, it shouldn't be that hard to track.

    I've had very little luck finding fish in North Rend so far, but mostly because I get caught up in exploring and new quests. I always think of it just after I log off. Has anyone been able to get to Dalaran, and see if fishing is possible there?

  17. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    I don't think the retrospective achievements are consistent. My second version of El (that hasn't completed daily fishing quests since transfer) still doesn't have Barloed.

    There are a few other bugged achievements that appeared at the same time as level 80, such as multiple exalted reputation gains. Let's hope it all gets worked out by the time it goes live.

    Dalaran certainly contains fish!

  18. Pipre <Deadly Salty>, 1 year ago:

    There are a ton of achievements that are not working retroactively that should quite obviously.:
    -The fishing diplomat: I'm alliance, and I have Old Crafty, yet did not recieve credit for having fished in Ogrimmar.
    -One that didn't get away: I have Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw in my inventory yet have not recieved the achievement.
    -Old Man Barlowned: Can't count the number of times I've done these quests (and haven't gotten the hat, 2 ring, or croc pet), no achievement.
    -Deadliest Catch: Fished up Gahz'ranka countless times as well. Have Nat Pagle's Fish Terminator equipped. No achievement.
    -Lurker Above: Have the Mallet of the Tides, fished him up many times, no achievement.

    The following I have completed, have not recieved the achievement, but are quite easy:
    -The Old Gnome and the Sea
    -The Scavenger
    -25 Fish to whatever the highest is. I probably got this achievement pre-BC. Spent countless hours in Azshara.

    http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=9336628596&postId=93356715498&sid=2000#4

  19. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    They have not tracked fish catches historically, so all retrospective awards are based on Bind on Pickup items and quests - and there are very few of these for fishing. And it seems everything you did in beta was reset at the last build (Friday night).

    The obvious one that Tigole responded to, was the Magical Crawdad not registering the "One That Didn't Get Away" (since the Magical Crawdad means you must have caught Mr. Pinchy). I think the only other 2 fish that could be added there are Old Crafty and Old Ironjaw, which and BoP. All the others can be traded, so having them doesn't prove you caught them.

    I also agree that cross-faction Crafty/Ironjaw should count (for The Fishing Diplomat), although unfortunately not for Horde, because Ironjaw can be caught in Ironforge.

    If the Deadliest Catch and Lurker Above are for fishing up the boss, then drops from that boss are not relevant, because anyone in the raid could have got them, without knowing how to fish.

    Old Man Barlowned wasn't consistent before, and I guess depends on how detailed their daily quest tracking is. I assume the game doesn't need to know you have completed dailies before, as it does regular quests.

    The fish catches could be calculated fairly easily from your skill level. Anglers with 375 skill have clearly caught a lot of fish. But I understand why they might want to start that fresh, since the skill level is only a rough approximation, not an accurate number.

    But then beta El doesn't appear to have any achievements at the moment, so I'm not able to comment on specifics - it's all broken...

  20. Pipre <Deadly Salty>, 1 year ago:

    I completely agree El. The question with the bosses is one I'm interested in. Since Gahz'ranka is only a lvl 63 pretty much any class should be able to go into ZG, fish, and kill him. So that one isn't too big of an issue. Lurker, on the other hand is not such an easy fight. He has tons of health, and even getting to him is quite difficult, if not impossible without clearing all the trash in the intance. In other words you're going to need a party or raid to get you to the boss, and it's a lot of work for an achievement. A lot of work those of us who have already fished him up have done WAY too many times to want to force some friends to go back and do.

    I'll do it though. If I have to! Salty Petre must exist!

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