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[General] Your Forum Aquarium/Profile

  1. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Warsinger wrote:

    By the way, maybe El should fix so that the "One that didn't get away"-achievment is shown as an accomplishment here on the site? ... Waddya say?

    I'm planning to add a few more catches to the forum profile "WoW Aquarium" when WotLK goes live. But, I need to rethink the way they are displayed. Since they are your profiles, it's only fair to ask how you think I should tackle the issues:

    1. The list of catches is getting rather long and cluttered to be displayed with each post: I'd like to keep the forum focused on the content of the post itself, while still allowing some character information to be displayed. One solution may be to only display icons against forum posts.
    2. In the past we've talked about listing every fish (a bit like Breanni's pet collecting), but that felt like over-kill. When the forums opened there were only a few really hard achievements listed, but I felt that there should be a wider variety, so that everyone had a reasonable chance at getting something to show their anglin' expertise. How rare or special should catches be?
    3. If achievements are added to the official Armory, it should be possible to automate them based on the character information you add (although we might need 101 character slots to keep everyone happy). However, not every notable catch is an achievement. Plus adding catches yourself gives you a bit more control - for example, the ability to show a fish caught before patch 3.0.2.

    Thoughts? Anything else? Keep in mind that a lot can be done here, but there is a trade-off between displaying lots of the information, and trying to maintain a smooth-running, easy to read, forum.

  2. Noodleguitar <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Hmm, yeah I like the idea of small icons next to the poster with a mouse-over text function. I think if you sort of group those icons together you are able to get quite a lot of icons near the poster's portrait without it getting huge or clustered.

  3. donquixote235 <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    I also like the idea of a mouse-over. Perhaps you could do something like having a link that says "Achievements" which, when clicked, displays a hidden div with all their achievements. Upon hovering over the achievements you could get more details, such as which fish they've caught for the "One That Didn't Get Away" achievement.

    It's a shame that http://www.wowarmory.com doesn't list achievements, or you could just pull them from there.

  4. Warsinger <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    I agree with the above, it's fun to know what your fellow fishermans have accomplished. An update to the "My Profile" page would also be appreciated, maybe an Armory-sort of dressing room, where you could put in what gear you use while fishing. Maybe it's too much work though, I wouldn't know. I'm not too deep in website-managing stuff :P.

  5. Vicenti <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    I too like the idea of a separate armoury style page, adding more items to the current list displayed with the post, may make it too unwieldy. Even if it were reduced to icons only, it could be uneasy on the eye if there were too many.

    A separate page could be a little more expansive and show icons for rare fish, greyed out, with the ones the person has caught coloured. Same for pets obtained through fishing and fishing related achievements. As a previous poster mentioned, could also build a list of apparel that provides a fishing buff and even a list of rods.

    There’s quite a lot that could be add, it’s just a question of do you want to keep it as it currently is, a small feature for a bit of fun, or turn it in to something a bit larger and a feature in it’s own right, which is what it would become if it spilled over on to a separate page.

  6. Pipre <Deadly Salty>, 1 year ago:

    El, maybe instead of posting the icons at the top of the persons post you could list them inside their post at the end, like a signature. I like the idea of small icons to signify what fish/achievements people have gotten, and manually selecting them or using the armory (when/if available) is a great idea. This would be a good way to separate posts as well as give more space for viewing them. Another thing to tie into this would be to use forum titles that are based on the achievements a person has earned. I'm sure all of us would like to be <Nat Pagle's Love Child> !

    Maybe with some time it would be possible to make a linkable fishing signature for use on a guild forum or blog that would then link back to this site?

  7. Micha <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Well, you seem to have two goals here.

    1. Maintain a readily visible "bragging rights" portion of each post
    2. Avoid information overload and general clutter.

    You're right. Even with the present amount of "achievements" available on your site, there are too many to display in the current format. If you add more, it will become entirely unmanageable.

    Your idea with the icons was spot on, I think. However, I'd increase the icon size if you're going to take out the text labels. Having a ton of icons that people can barely make out would only be an eyesore. I would increase the height/width of the icons by 75-90%. I'm throwing out that number because, just glancing at the bar where they're currently positioned, I think you could fit in that increase without increasing the bar size. If it's not too much work, you could then add a mouseover feature which shows exactly what the icon represents.

    There's only one major problem with the idea of icons. There are so many rare fish, with some of them so obscure, that even most anglers would not readily recognize them by their icon. Also, just by sheer quantity, some people would end up with a sea of icons. So here's how you deal with that.

    For the main achievements, the stuff we already have, use the icon system. The icons we have for them now are rather easily recognizable. For rare fish, consolidate them into one icon. A fish bowl would work nicely for this. Having the fish bowl would show that somebody has caught rare fish, and you can set it up so that it displays a list of them upon mouseover. You could extend this system to the other icons. Mousing over the ring icon would show whether they've got the 1 ring, the 2 ring, or both. Mousing over the fishing contest icon would show whether they have the rod, hook, or both. Mousing over the bucket would show which of the baby crocs they have.

    I think the icon + mouseover system is the best route, personally. This way, you minimize clutter and still have the important information easy to access right next to a person's post. I don't think a separate, armory-style page is a bad idea, but that sounds like a lot of work, and I definitely don't think the current system should be gutted for it.

  8. Utopia <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Slightly off topic,but I'm having a problem with my profile,in that I can't seem to update it to include my mr pinchy catch.
    I use the dropdown menu on the edit profile page to show the catch instead of net yet,but nothing changes when I click the update button at the bottom of the page.
    Is there a problem,or does the change need to be authorised or something?

    Yours sincerely,
    Confused of Azeroth

  9. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Utopia: I added Pinchy to your profile, but you should be able to change it yourself. I've tried altering my own, and it seems to work. I'll take a look at the code. Anyone else having problems?

  10. Utopia <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Thanks El,but I still can't make any changes myself.I got the magical crawdad box on my first wish,but I can't change it in my profile,or make any other changes
    Could it be a problem with me using Firefox?I had no trouble setting up my profile initially.

  11. Illuthas <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    Utopia wrote:

    Could it be a problem with me using Firefox?I had no trouble setting up my profile initially.

    Negative,i use firefox and it works perfectly for me

  12. Kunjana <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    I think Micha nailed it in their post. A system like what they described would definitely streamline the visuals yet still allow a good deal of information to be accessible.

  13. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    I managed to trigger the same problem while testing out a new version of the profiles. But it is not consistent - the worst kind of bugs to try and fix...

    In the interim, try manually clearing the entries from both the password boxes at the bottom before updating. That workaround worked for me.

  14. Utopia <Salty>, 1 year ago:

    That did the trick :D
    I wonder if it could be something to do with FF autofilling (my existing saved?) password into the change password box in the edit profile page.

  15. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Indeed, auto-filling is an explanation. I don't think it is putting the correct information there, so I guess that something else on the page is confusing it.

  16. Lunaire <Angler>, 1 year ago:

    Just a quick question. Will the sewer rat be added in this list? :)

  17. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 1 year ago:

    Yes! Sorry, I should do some work on this. I've been a bit distracted by leveling up to 80...

  18. el <Nat Pagle's Love Child>, 11 months ago:

    I made a few changes... I couldn't get the icons/fish bowl to "look right", but some ideas here have been implemented. I hope it looks slightly cleaner, without loosing anything important. Utopia's profile bug should also be fixed. Please let me know of any problems.

    I intend to keep the profile "aquarium" based on self-selection, rather than use Armory data. I have some ideas for using armory data, as well as providing more features along the lines of a member list. But those will have to wait a while longer.

  19. Cozmic <Salty>, 11 months ago:

    I like the new idea El, looks very good. Keep up the good work.

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